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Princess Luna
1st January 2012, 04:00
A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower courts decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.
This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class, Jordan said today from his Waterford home. I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.
He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.
Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
Most Cops Just Above Normal The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average
ordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law.

But the U.S. District Court found that New London had shown a rational basis for the policy. In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be unwise but was a rational way to reduce job turnover.

Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95836&page=1#.Tv_ZBTXOzgQ
I am not sure how to feel about this....

the last donut of the night
1st January 2012, 04:05
explains a lot

Ocean Seal
1st January 2012, 04:39
Okay well the IQ test doesn't mean shit, but this is just funny.

TheGodlessUtopian
1st January 2012, 04:56
The system gets more fucked up by the day; expelling/firing people over being smart?

Ele'ill
1st January 2012, 05:10
'we want you to just close your eyes and squeeze the trigger.. that's all we want'

Die Neue Zeit
1st January 2012, 05:20
Why doesn't he become an investigator, criminologist, or such?

X5N
1st January 2012, 06:59
Pretty soon American cops will have to come in pairs -- one to read, one to write. Specialization and all.

Prometeo liberado
1st January 2012, 07:09
Pretty soon American cops will have to come in pairs -- one to read, one to write. Specialization and all.
Is this what they mean by the dumbing down of america?:confused:

Os Cangaceiros
1st January 2012, 10:41
Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test

hurm, couldn't be a cop, what else could I do to exercise almost unlimited authority with very little responsibility

ckaihatsu
1st January 2012, 16:10
Regardless of the population being tested, I think we should be categorically critical of the entire concept of "IQ tests" -- while a test result *may* indeed indicate a greater potential for experiencing boredom on the job, *that* is a far cry from measuring 'intelligence', whatever that may be.

I maintain that we all have roughly the same faculties for reasoning and problem-solving, while everything else is cultural learning and conditioning.

I'll note that *some* abilities can't really be measured by objective criteria, like constructing creatively. Most of what people consider to be 'intelligence' is just expertise with a certain subject area, from learning and/or experience. Most people would be "dummies" at mountaineering, for example, where a lapse of "intelligence" could easily be fatal.

Unfortunately capitalism's commodification process applies to human beings as well as to material objects, and we see the same kind of hair-splitting, compartmentalization, and fetishism over individuals as we see for anything else in society.

Zealot
1st January 2012, 16:30
Isn't this old news? I'm pretty sure Michael Moore done a piece on this in one of his docs.

Hexen
1st January 2012, 23:56
It's simple, dumb people are easier to control.

Pretty Flaco
2nd January 2012, 00:05
It's simple, dumb people are easier to control.

or maybe intelligence is the result of social factors.

edit
I see now you weren't implying intelligence wasn't the result of social factors. my bad

Robespierre Richard
2nd January 2012, 00:13
Pretty soon American cops will have to come in pairs -- one to read, one to write. Specialization and all.

A man approaches a police foot patrol and asks: "Do you know why policemen always go in pairs?"

"Well, why?"

"One only knows how to talk and the other only knows how to write."

"Alright, we'll see about that! Johnson, write him up."

ckaihatsu
2nd January 2012, 02:11
It's simple, dumb people are easier to control.


Well, for the sake of argument, I'll retort that power relations and revolutionary politics do not comprise the entirety of humanity -- scientists and artists of accomplishment are definitely not-dumb but they may not necessarily make the best rebels / revolutionaries, for whatever reason(s).