Anyone seen the "documentary" 180?

[The Young Pioneer]

This is not a plug for this crap, I assure you.

These bible thumpers troll my university campus every once in a while and last time they showed up they handed out free DVDs. I took one and today finally was in the mood to stomach whatever propaganda it had to serve up and give my whiney little review.

The film's called "180." The DVD came in a rather blank, red disc jacket so as not to give anything away. What with the PUBLIC ADVISORY, GRAPHIC CONTENT label right next to an approving quote by the Duggar family, I assumed I'd be in for epic lulz, whatever the subject.

It starts off with a commentator talking about the Holocaust. He talks about how German children are forced to learn about it in school and that in Austria it's illegal to deny the Holocaust (at this point I had no clue where the stupid film was going with this- I actually thought it was going to be some radical, "Let history die!!" or "stop oppressing the Germans!!" or something). Then the 1930s Nazi footage fades away and is replaced with interviewing some losers on what appears to be beach strands in LA, California. Many of them can't tell the interviewer who Hitler was (one of 'em says he was a commie, lulz). It's amusing to me that whenever some biased prick wants to make a point about the ignorance of the US, they decide to interview people in such a place who obviously aren't going to be the best debating intellectuals.

At any rate, the interviewer begins asking people the age-old, "Would you kill baby Hitler to prevent the Holocaust?" entrapment question, while unpleasant music drones on in the background. Then he asks them if they'd bulldoze a bunch of Jews if a Nazi was forcing them on pain of death, to which most fall into the trap and declare, "Of course not!" Still not understanding what this had to do with the Christian evangelism on my campus, I was slightly shocked when the screen changed abruptly from these interviews to a picture of a fetus, and the narration, "So if you are against murder, you aren't pro-choice, right?"

Good fucking grief, that was the WORST transition and LEAST anti-climactic conservative propaganda I've ever seen. Usually they at least TRY to be clever. Has anyone else seen this or heard about it? I wonder for the Revleft community's thoughts/reactions if you have.

For anyone interested, it's apparently also watch-able online, just google the title.

[Sasha]

Sounds like those anti download ads "you wouldn't steal a car", fuck Yeah I would.
Wasn't Hitler a bastard? Good chances his mum woul# have aborted given a decent chance.

[Sasha]

bBTW, if you want some rwally epic lulz you should watch "they sold their souls to rock and roll", a 2, 6 or even 11 hour documentary that argues that a.o. the spicegirls not only play demonic music but are in fact actual demons corrupting youth with lesbianism.

[Commissar Rykov]

No I haven't seen this but it sounds like fun I should check it out.:laugh:

[The Young Pioneer]

actual demons corrupting youth with lesbianism.

Mm, neat-o, too late for me, then.

[Commissar Rykov]

I'm already 10 minutes in and it is pure shit lets ignore that their knowledge of history is shit but whole premise is garbage. Though I do find it funny they don't mention that Hitler was anti-Abortion as well.

Isn't the host that idiot that said Evolution isn't real because there is no Crocoduck? I am almost positive it is the same dipshit.

[Erratus]

Is that what it is about? A bunch of people were handing out that DVD at my college campus too. A farmer's market was going on at the same time so I kinda thought it would be an environmental thing. Knew it would be bad because they did say it was about "the Holocaust and what is happening today". Anyway, found it on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhwI).

I know it is a common trick to interview a bunch of people and choose only the most pathetic ones, but this film takes that too far. I honestly do not believe that a whole lot of people will buy that most of America's youth don't know anything about the Holocaust. And of course they gotta show the full interviews with the neo-nazis.

Their abortion thing is complete bunk, unsurprisingly. They just stop at the point that life begins at conception. I notice that this is often the case. Pro-lifers will happily debate abortion, but you gotta start at the point that life begins at conception. When I tell them that I do not accept that premise and why, they typically can only resort to "What if your mom abort you?"



Isn't the host that idiot that said Evolution isn't real because there is no Crocoduck? I am almost positive it is the same dipshit.

It is, but that is not the worst thing. He is also the founder of perhaps the most powerful argument for Creation: The Banana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4)!

[Zostrianos]

Those are the same kind of people who argue that the theory of evolution is evil because Hitler apparently believed it, therefore it must be false and evil, along with Charles Darwin:laugh:
There was a parody video making fun of those fundies, and they argued that the theory of gravity was also evil, because the Nazis relied on it to drop bombs. Therefore there is a direct link between Isaac Newton and Nazi Crimes :laugh:

[Sasha]

Is that what it is about? A bunch of people were handing out that DVD at my college campus too. A farmer's market was going on at the same time so I kinda thought it would be an environmental thing. Knew it would be bad because they did say it was about "the Holocaust and what is happening today". Anyway, found it on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhwI).

I know it is a common trick to interview a bunch of people and choose only the most pathetic ones, but this film takes that too far. I honestly do not believe that a whole lot of people will buy that most of America's youth don't know anything about the Holocaust. And of course they gotta show the full interviews with the neo-nazis.

Their abortion thing is complete bunk, unsurprisingly. They just stop at the point that life begins at conception. I notice that this is often the case. Pro-lifers will happily debate abortion, but you gotta start at the point that life begins at conception. When I tell them that I do not accept that premise and why, they typically can only resort to "What if your mom abort you?"



It is, but that is not the worst thing. He is also the founder of perhaps the most powerful argument for Creation: The Banana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4)!

Oh, those banana idiots, if they had even a basic understanding of evolution they would see that the banana is in fact the casebook argument FOR evolution, not against it.

[Rafiq]

"yeah, let's take a very sensitive subject (holocaust) and opportunistically abuse it by using it to our advantage against those who disagree with us!".

Why do all right wingers dl this?

"You know who hated free markets? Hitler. That means you want a holocaust?".

[Commissar Rykov]

"yeah, let's take a very sensitive subject (holocaust) and opportunistically abuse it by using it to our advantage against those who disagree with us!".

Why do all right wingers dl this?

"You know who hated free markets? Hitler. That means you want a holocaust?".

I just think it is funny they are arguing something that Hitler would agree with them which is anti-Abortion. Hitler was utterly adamant against abortion due to his belief that it was exterminating the German Race.

[ckaihatsu]

It is, but that is not the worst thing. He is also the founder of perhaps the most powerful argument for Creation: The Banana!


This is a classic, archetypal example of unsound reasoning of the religious variety -- note how their "faith" drops them right into a confirmation bias for the "perfectly designed fruit for man", the banana, since they're *not* covering all of the other foods that we eat that either *don't* make a lot of "design sense" for us, or else have had to be intentionally bred over generations to *be* "perfectly designed" for human consumption.

I'll also springboard from this to address the larger topic of the religious mindset behind this kind of reasoning. The encapsulation of this comes from the religious themselves in the oft-heard aphorism of "Everything happens for a reason."

This is a breezy, deceptive phrase that serves to conveniently displace any and all possibility of occurrence of chance, coincidence, or incidental phenomena. By locking the subscriber into an all-meaningful framework this statement of belief readily implies a Supreme Doer at the heart of all resulting experienced phenomena, with no room remaining for the simplest, most commonplace happenstance crossing of paths by strangers without interaction, incident, or meaning.

Worse, the subscriber may easily come to confuse phenomena of meaningless random events for puzzle pieces of some Grand Divine Narrative, and/or people-initiated phenomena for the same. This can lead directly into a political paradigm of consistent passiveness, with the subscriber all-too-readily accepting and absorbing all manner of direct and indirect intentions from the social / political world. The non-superstitious alternative, of course, is to acknowledge that phenomena are either from nature, are incidental, or result from human initiatives or inadvertent actions.

It's incontrovertible that religious reasoning is synonymous with intellectual laziness since the largest of gaps of evidence can be conveniently filled in with the spackle of "faith".

[The Young Pioneer]

^ Ooh, but maybe accidents happen for a reason by coincidence? :lol:

[Red Commissar]

This was quite fun to watch. I haven't heard of it before, but I guess some people would take this kind of shit seriously as a pro-life argument.

[anarchoash]

bBTW, if you want some rwally epic lulz you should watch "they sold their souls to rock and roll", a 2, 6 or even 11 hour documentary that argues that a.o. the spicegirls not only play demonic music but are in fact actual demons corrupting youth with lesbianism.

Haha dude if you've got some free time you've got to check out a website called Jesus is Savior it's ridiculous but you can't help but laugh. There's an article on there for pretty much every politician, musician, actor, author etc. claiming that all of these people are part of an ancient satanic cult plotting world domination through social media. They've even got articles explaining how bad feminism and communism are, in fact I believe the word they use is "evil" haha definitely worth a look for some laughs

[ckaihatsu]

^ Ooh, but maybe accidents happen for a reason by coincidence? :lol:


Knee-slapper, but are accidents / coincidences *all* necessarily imbued with individual or social meaning?


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