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MattShizzle
8th December 2011, 03:51
Not only their very pro-Christian shit but they are very pro-discrimination against homosexuals.

http://news.change.org/stories/yes-chick-fil-a-says-we-explicitly-do-not-like-same-sex-couples


Bet Chick-fil-A wishes this month would end. Over the past few weeks, the restaurant chain's deep ties (http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/chick-fil-a_responds_but_connections_to_anti-gay_groups_deepen) to the anti-gay movement have been exposed and uncovered by a number of activists, most notably Jeremy Hooper at Good As You (http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2011/01/video-we-were-done-with-the-chick-fil-a-thing-but-then-the-prez-went-and-made-a-video.html). Whether it's Focus on the Family, the National Organization for Marriage, the Pennsylvania Family Institute, or Exodus International, Chick-fil-A ties run deep.
Of course, the President of Chick-fil-A wants gay people to share no hard feelings (http://vimeo.com/18680127). The restaurant will gladly feed homosexuals gobs of chicken sandwiches, after all. But when it comes to marriage, Chick-fil-A believes strongly that same-sex couples just don't deserve equal rights.
As we wrote about a few weeks ago (http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/chick-fil-a_responds_but_connections_to_anti-gay_groups_deepen), Chick-fil-A's charitable arm, the WinShape Foundation (http://www.winshape.org/), has been particularly active in the fight against marriage equality. They've hosted conferences with some of the leading opponents of gay marriage in this country. A higher up at WinShape has even praised the efforts of anti-gay activist David Blankenhorn (http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2011/01/video-we-were-done-with-the-chick-fil-a-thing-but-then-the-prez-went-and-made-a-video.html) for working against marriage equality, and for articulating a solid reason why American culture should reject same-sex couples.
Now comes some email correspondence that Good As You has shared on their blog (http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2011/01/heres-what-chick-fil-a-doesnt-understand-the-more-their-defenders-shoot-the-messenger-the-more-were-going-to-dig-up-new.html), where the WinShape Foundation's Retreat Center (http://www.winshaperetreat.org/) -- a center run by the charitable arm of Chick-fil-A -- admits that they have a severe distaste for LGBT people.
The email correspondence goes a little something like this. Someone writes WinShape an easy question about whether their retreat center is open to LGBT people. WinShape's response:
"WinShape Retreat defines marriage from the Biblical standard as being between one man and one woman. Groups/Individuals are welcome who offer wholesome, educational conferences and programs that are compatible with Biblical values and WinShape's purpose," WinShape wrote back.
Kind of some corporate speak, right? So the activist wrote back: can you just give a clear-cut answer? And WinShape confirmed:
"We do not accept homosexual couples because of the statement in our contract."
And so it goes like this: Chick-fil-A is a restaurant where franchises frequently donate to anti-gay organizations like the Pennsylvania Family Institute, Focus on the Family and others. The restaurant's charitable arm, WinShape, holds conferences for opponents of gay marriage and praises their work. And this charitable arm's Retreat program puts a blanket ban on gay couples using their facilities, because they "do not accept homosexual couples."
Yet the President of Chick-fil-A still says that all people, including LGBT people, are treated with respect by the restaurant? Huh, what a funny definition of respect

Princess Luna
8th December 2011, 04:17
People are just now finding out about this? I have known about Chick-Fill-A ties to anti-gay organizations for like 3 years.

MattShizzle
8th December 2011, 04:19
I didn't know that until now but stopped eating there years ago finding out they supported other shit, like anti-abortion. There's one at a local mall and if they give out free samples I eat them. Hell, it costs them money and I don't give them a cent back.

NewLeft
8th December 2011, 04:22
Might as well stop eating from all chains..

The Young Pioneer
8th December 2011, 04:24
I'm not straight.

But is the fact that some company has issues with it going to stop me from walking in there if I enjoy the service/product? Not really; that'd be one more thing they're taking away from me with their bigotry.

But uh, if you're gonna boycott them, you might wanna boycott all these, as well:

AutoZone, Cinemark, Dominoes Pizza, ExxonMobil, Salvation Army, Urban Outfitters, WalMart...full lists are found on Google.

IMHO, not worth it.

Plus, their ice dreams are the shit! :D

Bad Grrrl Agro
8th December 2011, 04:24
I've never heard of the place.

MattShizzle
8th December 2011, 04:26
I don't eat fast food at all but this company is worse than others. I'm guessing if an executive of McDonalds, Burger King or Wendys made a homophobic statement that got out in public they'd be fired on the spot. Not that they are good, they just know it would be bad for their business. Chick-Fil-A doesn't care as much about that as they do about their personal bigotry.

MattShizzle
8th December 2011, 04:28
I'm not straight.

But is the fact that some company has issues with it going to stop me from walking in there if I enjoy the service/product? Not really; that'd be one more thing they're taking away from me with their bigotry.




That's very shortsighted IMO. Think - if you learned the CEO/owners/whatever thought being gay was wrong but didn't act on it I could see where you are coming from. This company actually donates money to very reactionary, discriminatory organizations so if you go there you are indirectly supporting hate groups and such.

Catmatic Leftist
8th December 2011, 04:41
If we boycott Chick-Fil-A, then we might as well boycott every single capitalist business, conglomerate, food chain, corporation, etc. that exists for their massive amounts of racist, sexist, heterosexist, anti-poor shit they do every day.

Communism isn't a lifestyle.

With that being said, Chick-Fil-A has pretty awful food.

Princess Luna
8th December 2011, 04:44
I'm not straight.

But is the fact that some company has issues with it going to stop me from walking in there if I enjoy the service/product? Not really; that'd be one more thing they're taking away from me with their bigotry.

But uh, if you're gonna boycott them, you might wanna boycott all these, as well:

AutoZone, Cinemark, Dominoes Pizza, ExxonMobil, Salvation Army, Urban Outfitters, WalMart...full lists are found on Google.

IMHO, not worth it.

Plus, their ice dreams are the shit! :D
It's not just the fact they refuse to hire LGBT workers, Chick-Fill-A actually donates a percentage of their proceeds to anti-gay organizations. Meaning if you spend $4.51 cents at one of their restuarants, 15 cents of that money could be going to groups like the American Family Association, who will spend your money on things like, hiring people to testify in court about why LGBT people shouldn't be allowed to adopt children. Oh , and FUCK THE SALVATION ARMY!! I would rather burn my money, then give it to such a hateful organization :cursing:

The Young Pioneer
8th December 2011, 04:49
Thank you, Catmatic Leftist.

Similar information has come out about where Microsoft, Apple, and Netflix monies were going (if I remember correctly these three have since changed their policies), but others still doing so are PetSmart, Delta Airlines, Target...again, Google the rest yourself.

If to be a "good gay" who "supports my rights" or whatever, I have to not fly, not rent movies, not buy dog toys, etc. etc., then I don't want to be good.


Bad lesbians are way more fun, anyways. ;)

The Young Pioneer
8th December 2011, 04:52
It's not just the fact they refuse to hire LGBT workers, Chick-Fill-A actually donates a percentage of their proceeds to anti-gay organizations. Meaning if you spend $4.51 cents at one of their restuarants, 15 cents of that money could be going to groups like the American Family Association...

Most organisations such as those are well-funded by the upper class conservatives anyway. My 15 cents neither makes nor breaks them.

MattShizzle- I see that you like to post controversial articles quite regularly with some well thought out comment such as "Assholes!" or "Fire them!!", and it's perfectly fine if this is your hobby. But please don't try to tell me I'm short sighted- especially on the topic of gay issues- this is a public forum and I am an anonymous poster to you. Thanks.

Bad Grrrl Agro
8th December 2011, 04:56
I'm not straight.
Me neither

AutoZone,I don't drive never have learned how to drive.


Cinemark,What is that?



Dominoes Pizza,Do their dumpsters count?


ExxonMobil,I am not into buying my gasoline


Salvation Army, I almost became a bell ringer


Urban Outfitters, Okay this one I have to confess I love Urban Outfitters


WalMartEwwwww


Now that I'm done being a smart ass, for now, I'll point out that it is impossible to be pure as a consumer. However, you can strategically pick out places to boycott to hurt them where it counts and force them into a position where they have to at least negotiate.
It's not much but it does something.

mrmikhail
8th December 2011, 04:58
If we boycott Chick-Fil-A, then we might as well boycott every single capitalist business, conglomerate, food chain, corporation, etc. that exists for their massive amounts of racist, sexist, heterosexist, anti-poor shit they do every day.

Communism isn't a lifestyle.

With that being said, Chick-Fil-A has pretty awful food.

Exactly, considering most of those capitalist corporations do just this, what is the point of boycotting one? why not them all?

And I agree with Liza, the point is why let them take something you enjoy (if you enjoy CFA that is) you boycotting them is costing them what.....5 bucks a week? it's not like such is going to hurt them in the least since there will not be a mass boycott anyway.

Commissar Rykov
8th December 2011, 05:02
First off isn't this really, really old news? Second off since I have never eaten there I guess my boycott is going swimmingly.

Bad Grrrl Agro
8th December 2011, 05:02
Bad lesbians are way more fun, anyways. ;)
If you were as bad as me you'd prefer to hitch hike anyhow.;)

Il Medico
8th December 2011, 05:09
I've never heard of the place.
Really? :blink:

But yeah, it's well known that they're anti gay. Have pretty good chicken though. I'll eat there if there isn't a Popeye's or Churches around.

MattShizzle
8th December 2011, 05:13
For those who don't see this as a big deal - would you feel the same way if you found out they donated to the KKK or the American Nazi Party? How is this that different?

mrmikhail
8th December 2011, 05:19
For those who don't see this as a big deal - would you feel the same way if you found out they donated to the KKK or the American Nazi Party? How is this that different?

How is it going Mr. Straw man?

or were you going for Reductio ad Hitlerum with that nazi mention?

Agent Equality
8th December 2011, 05:28
Too bad I fucking love their food :) otherwise I wouldn't ever eat there again

The Young Pioneer
8th December 2011, 05:32
For those who don't see this as a big deal - would you feel the same way if you found out they donated to the KKK or the American Nazi Party? How is this that different?

Boycott ever paying anyone for anything if they've a Mastercard!!!!!one!!!!!!


Edit: I feel I should elaborate a bit for those who don't know- Around this time last year Visa made the news when it came out that you couldn't fund Wikileaks with your Mastercard...but you could still donate to the KKK. So there's that.

mrmikhail
8th December 2011, 05:38
Everyone here is either a socialist, communist, or anarchist all of which are anti-capitalist, thus everyone should be boycotting all capitalist made goods and services!

see, I can use logical fallacies too :rolleyes:

Bad Grrrl Agro
8th December 2011, 07:12
Really? :blink:

But yeah, it's well known that they're anti gay. Have pretty good chicken though. I'll eat there if there isn't a Popeye's or Churches around.
Oh? I went veggie at 10 years old so that explains it. 14 years later here I am typing. I started eating meat briefly while I was homeless but then again that came out of dumpsters.

Os Cangaceiros
8th December 2011, 09:37
Chic Fil A isn't that bad, food-wise. Although it's not my first choice if there's another non-KFC chicken outlet around.

Stand Your Ground
10th December 2011, 01:28
The band 'Here We Divide' posted this on facebook the other day and said they will be boycotting. Awesome to hear this from one of my favorite bands. :) Also I have never heard of these places.

GPDP
10th December 2011, 01:56
I don't even really like fried chicken anyway, so I'm ahead of all y'all.

Bad Grrrl Agro
14th December 2011, 01:14
I don't even really like fried chicken anyway, so I'm ahead of all y'all.
I'm vegetarian so on this one I'm ahead of the game as well.

REVLEFT'S BIEGGST MATSER TROL
14th December 2011, 01:23
yeah i'm probably going to eat there, but this will defiantely be somethign to talk about whenever i'm there with friends

Lanky Wanker
21st December 2011, 02:15
If we wanna pick and choose which companies we buy our food, clothes, condoms and everything else from according to their morals, we should probably save ourselves the stress of Google research and just buy everything from independent, local businesses (which isn't even always possible).

Then again, a big chain company being homophobic shouldn't have to be the wake up message for us to stop buying from them.

Rafiq
21st December 2011, 03:07
I'll eat whatever the fuck I want anyway