View Full Version : Extrasolar planet... similar to earth?
ColonelCossack
6th December 2011, 13:45
So I was eating a sandwich and MotherCossack told me that astronomers had found ann Earth-sized planet orbiting a sun-like star, in the goldilocks zone.
Anyone got more information? What do we think the implications will be? I think it's unlikely that there will be life on it, because Mars is 16 degrees C in the summer, but it (probably) is lifeless.
Discuss.
Ostrinski
6th December 2011, 13:51
Let's give it to the Tories.
Red Commissar
6th December 2011, 23:17
So I was eating a sandwich and MotherCossack told me that astronomers had found ann Earth-sized planet orbiting a sun-like star, in the goldilocks zone.
Anyone got more information? What do we think the implications will be? I think it's unlikely that there will be life on it, because Mars is 16 degrees C in the summer, but it (probably) is lifeless.
Discuss.
Well, from what I gather is special about this particular planet is that it's the first planet that isn't a gas giant found within the habitable zone by the Kepler observatory. The ones that have been found so far were gas planets.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/05/kepler-confirms-first-planet-found-in-the-habitable-zone-of-a-sun-like-star/
By our guesses about the way the 'habitable' zones are with respect to a star, these planets would presumably be able to host life. But it would require more information about the planet of course, such as its mass, gravity, and atmosphere. Goes with out saying we'll need more information on this particular planet, but it's a good find.
rundontwalk
6th December 2011, 23:22
I'm amazed that the average temperature of it is like 70 degrees.
The Young Pioneer
6th December 2011, 23:30
Great, so we've found a possible planet to eventually inhabit and destroy after we're done inhabiting and destroying this one?
ColonelCossack
6th December 2011, 23:39
I don't think we'd ever get there, unless we make some serious advances in physics- the only way I can envisage us getting there is wormholes or some similar phenomenon, or travelling there in suspended animation- but never having any contact with people you knew back on Earth. I dunno, though. We're gonna need to get out of here pretty quick.
Does anyone here know the distance?
Le Rouge
6th December 2011, 23:42
Great, so we've found a possible planet to eventually inhabit and destroy after we're done inhabiting and destroying this one?
No
Does anyone here know the distance?
HD 179070 is fairly close, at a distance from the sun of 352 light years
ColonelCossack
7th December 2011, 00:32
No
Thanks.
MotherCossack
7th December 2011, 00:41
sounds worth a quick shifty. well bunny rabbit pumpkin woozle man (i know i shouldn't, but ooh it does suit him, even now he's a strapping CC) so you gather some essential equipment etc etc, while i make a scrumptious picnic.
anyway according to quantum physics and all that stuff (that i have only a very fragile grasp of; so forgive my scientific buffoonery)if a particle is here in this room in this moment, then it could also be anywhere in the known universe aswell . which includes that new cosy planet you mentioned?????????????! albeit with a very low probability
thefinalmarch
7th December 2011, 01:52
Believing that liquid water is necessary for life is a horribly geocentric assertion to make.
http://news.discovery.com/space/planetary-habitable-zones-defined-by-alien-biochemistry-111118.html
Winkers Fons
7th December 2011, 02:08
Traveling at close to the speed of light would allow a trip of about 24 years as experienced by the people on the spaceship. So I think it would be quite possible for an advanced civilization to do.
Magón
7th December 2011, 03:13
Believing that liquid water is necessary for life is a horribly geocentric assertion to make.
http://news.discovery.com/space/planetary-habitable-zones-defined-by-alien-biochemistry-111118.html
The reason they're so focused on water is because for us (,and beings like us) water is a vital point to our creation and living. Of course there are other biomes that various other creatures can live on and through, but for beings like ourselves, water is a key figure to it, and that's why water is so vital to the scientists looking for and finding various planets that may or may not have water on them. Yes it's geocentric, but it's only geocentric because that's what we are.
ColonelCossack
7th December 2011, 18:06
bunny rabbit pumpkin woozle man
I want to die.
MotherCossack
7th December 2011, 19:59
son, remember my motto; "MUSTN'T GRUMBLE."
anyway could be a lot worse, innit blad!
yor old tart couda bin an evoow(evil?) reackshunry toree scumbag innit.:D;)
ColonelCossack
7th December 2011, 21:41
son, remember my motto; "MUSTN'T GRUMBLE."
anyway could be a lot worse, innit blad!
yor old tart couda bin an evoow(evil?) reackshunry toree scumbag innit.:D;)
Mum, please post serious comments outside of the non-political forums, as I've said in real life. :sneaky:
ColonelCossack
7th December 2011, 21:43
Believing that liquid water is necessary for life is a horribly geocentric assertion to make.
http://news.discovery.com/space/planetary-habitable-zones-defined-by-alien-biochemistry-111118.html
Bit off topic, do extremophiles need water, or can the just live of noxious vapours etc?
Nox
7th December 2011, 21:46
Socialism on one planet.
Nox
7th December 2011, 21:47
innit blad!
Hahahaha
East London 2k11 bled!!!
ColonelCossack
7th December 2011, 21:49
Hahahaha
East London 2k11 bled!!!
FAM
What you sayin' bruv?
That's peak, fam.
I could get used to this. Maybe i'll start "talking" (i.e typing) like this normally.
Nox
7th December 2011, 21:52
FAM
What you sayin' bruv?
That's peak, fam.
I could get used to this. Maybe i'll start "talking" (i.e typing) like this normally.
Hahaha I could just imagine MotherCossack showing her agreement with you by saying "yeah fam"
Nox
7th December 2011, 21:59
Seriously though, don't make me go all west-country on you...
ColonelCossack
7th December 2011, 22:11
Seriously though, don't make me go all west-country on you...
Oh noes not... WEST COUNTRY!! :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
Please... no!
MotherCossack
7th December 2011, 22:30
coo ee west country that sounds fun..... er um liyke a farrrrmayr ayn somayresayet..... is that even right... jeez spelling west country 's harder than it sounds... and you know what is somerset even far west enough?
what da fok??? shut ya face yo anchent muver innit.....
sorry, blad but me cant stop it be some addictive shit bruv...oops there i go again.....
seriously though capitalism is clearly a hugely unfair way of organising ourselves. i mean come on..... we should be ashamed of ourselves putting up with such shit.
COULD DO MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
maybe when we come to move out to this funky new planet, yeah, we can like leave some fings behind.... namely CAPITALISM and uver right wing nonsense. yeah?
Nox
7th December 2011, 23:15
coo ee west country that sounds fun..... er um liyke a farrrrmayr ayn somayresayet..... is that even right... jeez spelling west country 's harder than it sounds... and you know what is somerset even far west enough?
Somerset are close enough
Ooo errr sorry for my accen'
Le Rouge
7th December 2011, 23:25
Mum, please post serious comments outside of the non-political forums, as I've said in real life. :sneaky:
:laugh:
Drosophila
27th December 2011, 17:38
I'm sure there are billions and billions of these. They're just so difficult to find that we only know of a handful.
The Old Man from Scene 24
30th December 2011, 10:32
In terms of habitability, I have been specifically interested in HD 85512 b (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_85512_b). Two reasons: It is currently often considered to be the most likely to be habitable, and it's only 36 light years away.
A little off-topic here >>> I don't usually talk about this much, since I used to always get flamed and even banned for bringing up the idea (on other websites), but I've always had an interest in fleeing into space to get away from this corrupt planet. I often spend my free time designing interstellar spacecraft on MS Paint and Google Sketchup. I know, it may sound silly to some, but I can't help but dream about exploring the final frontier one day.
Also, has anyone else here used a program called Celestia?
Drosophila
31st December 2011, 00:44
Also, has anyone else here used a program called Celestia?
I have. It's pretty interesting, but I particularly like to mess around with Universe Sandbox, which is essentially a gravity simulator with nice graphics. It's $2.49 on Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/) today if you want to buy it cheap.
Revolution starts with U
6th January 2012, 07:25
Traveling at close to the speed of light would allow a trip of about 24 years as experienced by the people on the spaceship. So I think it would be quite possible for an advanced civilization to do.
You can't just jump up to light speed. You would liquify every thing in your body. It takes time to accelerate to such high speeds without killing yourself. As such, by the time you actually got up to light speed, you would have overshot the target by far.
Unfortunately interstellar space travel under our current knowledge of physics is very, very, very unlikely.
MotherCossack
6th January 2012, 10:28
talking about the speed of light thing...
did the men in tight suits come to any conclusions about.....- let me rephrase that-...
make any headway with, the whether it is possible question...[speed of light travel, i mean].
is my understanding of recent events roughly right....?
they unexpectedly get a nimble particle to outdo itself and break its own record...
did they then rerun the race a lot of times to check...
satisfied, they announced the result along with suggested implications....
was there then a modest flurry of activity as clever people digested said report and implications..?
there was a general c onsensus that more investigations were called for...
i think..
so what now?
did i miss something...
or am i being far too impatient....
these tests and experiments take time... is that it...
no. i wont say it... (bad dog, M. C.)
there i go again...sorry...
its just that i think that i naturally always look for the humour in things, not to hurt or damage but to illuminate and communicate...
god i'm a twat!
anyway about the question i asked.....
anyone..?
Robespierre Richard
6th January 2012, 11:55
In terms of habitability, I have been specifically interested in HD 85512 b (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_85512_b). Two reasons: It is currently often considered to be the most likely to be habitable, and it's only 36 light years away.
A little off-topic here >>> I don't usually talk about this much, since I used to always get flamed and even banned for bringing up the idea (on other websites), but I've always had an interest in fleeing into space to get away from this corrupt planet. I often spend my free time designing interstellar spacecraft on MS Paint and Google Sketchup. I know, it may sound silly to some, but I can't help but dream about exploring the final frontier one day.
Also, has anyone else here used a program called Celestia?
That's actually pretty cool. I used to do that too sometimes, though kind of stopped because doing 3D is hard. Can you start a thread for this in Chit-Chat?
MotherCossack
6th January 2012, 14:15
good idea!
it does sound fun....
just the sort of thing that would amuse my Y.C.C
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