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RGacky3
6th December 2011, 11:33
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I love that Thom Hartmann points this out. It most certainly is blasphemy if your ARE a christian and use christianity, Christ, or God for material gain, for any christian its discusing. In fact the ONLY time Jesus ever got violent was to drive out people from the temple doing the same thing.

I think its very important for leftist christians to be vocal about this, its not only missinterprating the Gospel what the right wing does, its not ONLY twisting tiny parts of different parts of the bible (they rarely use the gospel) to promote hate and disdain, it is actual blasphemy, its just as immoral, as the religious leaders in Jesus time, who said in the end "We have no king but Caesar," in the end that is what the religious right is, when it comes between buisiness and Christ, they say "We have no king but Capitalism." The fact that they are so quick to support the commercialization of christianity (something that would make a real christian sick to his stomach). Not only is it inconsistant with christianity, even the very basic form of it (agape love), its blasphemous.

BTW, his use of the parable of the farm workers is comical at best. He said the Kingdom of heaven IS AS a man traveling and so on, its interpereted by almost everyone to mean that christians should use their time and energy in furthering the gospel or giving back to the kingdom of heaven, NO WHERE in any of those parables is it talking about how to run society, economics, or even how one should actually act within economics or society, its all about mans relationship with the kingdom of heaven.

If your gonna take these parables (Which by definition are not supposed to be taken literally), then according to Mathew 20:1-16 everyone should be the same wage, or according to Like 11:5-8 we should annoy the shit out of our neighbors at night and wake them up, or according to Luke 7:36-50 we should give debt amnesty accross the board, or Luke 16:1-13 tells use we should steal from our Boss, or Mathew 22:1-14 says that bounces should enforce dress codes.

I mean the whole point of parables was to talk about deeper spiritual issues in simple terms by using things that are of everyday knowledge, if you take all of them literally your totally missing the point.

Of coares this AFR douchbag knows that the parable was'nt to be taken literally, (Its as stupid as saying that when Jesus said we should be like children it's not talking about humility, its talking about playing with toys and pissing your bed,) but he's purposefully using christianity and blaspheming to support big buisiness, its discusting and reprehensible.

Smyg
6th December 2011, 11:40
Jesus wasn't cool with selling things in the temple of God. But Christmas is okay? :D

RGacky3
6th December 2011, 12:06
The correct way to respond to the religious right in the US is the exact same way Jesus responded to the religious right in his day. (he did'nt pussyfoot).

Commissar Rykov
7th December 2011, 06:41
The correct way to respond to the religious right in the US is the exact same way Jesus responded to the religious right in his day. (he did'nt pussyfoot).
Smash their shit and expropriate it to the Masses.

Le Socialiste
7th December 2011, 06:50
It is strange to see how utterly twisted Christianity turned out. It is important to note that Jesus never said anything about starting another faith in his name. For all intents and purposes, he sought to reform Judaism - not splinter off from it. He also praised the meek, poor, and downtrodden of society, saying "they will inherit the earth." Not to mention his emphasis on love, something most modern day Christians seem to struggle with. :rolleyes:

Commissar Rykov
7th December 2011, 06:56
It is strange to see how utterly twisted Christianity turned out. It is important to note that Jesus never said anything about starting another faith in his name. For all intents and purposes, he sought to reform Judaism - not splinter off from it. He also praised the meek, poor, and downtrodden of society, saying "they will inherit the earth." Not to mention his emphasis on love, something most modern day Christians seem to struggle with. :rolleyes:
That is what happens when a religion is used by an empire to help maintain order and discipline as well as to justify its violent rule. Shit changes real quick in the name of political expediency.;)

This is why I have no love for Organized Religion as really it is nothing more than an extension of the State and a legitimization of the State and its apparatuses.

Le Socialiste
7th December 2011, 08:33
That is what happens when a religion is used by an empire to help maintain order and discipline as well as to justify its violent rule. Shit changes real quick in the name of political expediency.;)

This is why I have no love for Organized Religion as really it is nothing more than an extension of the State and a legitimization of the State and its apparatuses.

Having been raised within organized religion, I can honestly say it does more harm than good. What's interesting though is the rise in young people who are/were brought up in the church who agree with that point (at least in the regional denomination I'm in).

ÑóẊîöʼn
8th December 2011, 00:10
It's not just "organised religion", the ruling classes can take advantage of nearly any complex superstition.

TheGodlessUtopian
8th December 2011, 00:14
It's not just "organised religion", the ruling classes can take advantage of nearly any complex superstition.

One could include capitalism if you wanted to stretch all the propaganda involved with it.

ÑóẊîöʼn
8th December 2011, 00:28
One could include capitalism if you wanted to stretch all the propaganda involved with it.

I suppose one could call the "Invisible Hand of the Free Market" an economic superstition...

cyu
6th May 2015, 17:06
Thought I should save this somewhere. From http://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/34ahiw/im_not_sure_where_else_to_put_this_but_i_laughed/cqtnss9

tashananana:
The very quick version is near the end of the world before Christ returns the Antichrist shows up and is like - yo, I'm Jesus, come do what I say. Except he's lying and he's not and he gets people to do all these shitty not Christian things which vary depending on who you are talking too. So I think it's all very non Jesus stuff like not helping the poor and not being nice to the ostracized and oppressed minorities and not calling the evil powerful people on their shit etc.

mangarooboo:
So basically things that people do every day.

Cliff Paul
7th May 2015, 04:23
i wish I could re-like rykov's post

Ele'ill
7th May 2015, 23:41
Personally, I'm glad this wildly popular, not even 1 page, thread got revived after 4 years.

Futility Personified
7th May 2015, 23:46
Freaky deaky seeing all those 'banned' things on ye olden posts. I had a christian upbringing thought, and although i'm atheistic I think herr christ would be pretty disapproving of contemporary (starting about, you know, from 100 years when he died) Christianity. Forgive the ruling class father, they know not what the free market does.