Marxst-Leninist from Canada

[red1936]

Hello there, Im a Marxist-Leninist who identifies with the line of the Albanian Party of labor and Enver Hoxha, well.... Im not a very intresting person so there you go. Thats it.

[ColonelCossack]

Hiya

[OHumanista]

Hoxhaism is sad...but nevemind me, welcome to Revleft:)

[Art Vandelay]

I am a little disappointed to hear of Hoxaists in my neck of the woods but oh well glad to have you on the boards and hope you enjoy you time here as well as make the most of it.

[NewLeft]

Welcome to the forums. Hoaxist or not, welcome!

[Iraultzaile Ezkerreko]

Hello there, Im a Marxist-Leninist who identifies with the line of the Albanian Party of labor and Enver Hoxha, well.... Im not a very intresting person so there you go. Thats it.

Most Hoxhaists are, don't worry. :)

[Roach]

Those are some pretty fucking nice ways to say hello.


(Uninteresting persons) Most Hoxhaists are, don't worry


Hoxhaism is sad


I am a little disappointed to hear of Hoxaists in my neck of the woods

Welcome red1936. And go fuck yourself you hoxhaist monster.

[OHumanista]

Those are some pretty fucking nice ways to say hello.







Welcome red1936. And go fuck yourself you hoxhaist monster.

Sure so I have to agree with everything in order to welcome someone?:rolleyes:
I don't hide my thoughts on hoxhaism and yet my welcome is sincere. A comrade is a comrade, not a monster, mistaken as it may be but welcome.
You should learn to take criticism, it does wonders to avoid self created images of ourselves and our ideas. To keep a constant watch for our own mistakes.

[Commissar Rykov]

Sure so I have to agree with everything in order to welcome someone?:rolleyes:
I don't hide my thoughts on hoxhaism and yet my welcome is sincere. A comrade is a comrade, not a monster, mistaken as it may be but welcome.
You should learn to take criticism, it does wonders to avoid self created images of ourselves and our ideas. To keep a constant watch for our own mistakes.
He was being sarcastic since his last line was a really blatant attack on the red1936.:lol:

Anyways welcome to Revleft.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Welcome.

Please be a tir sock.

[ColonelCossack]

You guys aren't being too friendly...

Welcome to Revleft, comrade.

[CWAF]

Welcome, comrade. Have a enjoyable time here! I'm also a pro-Hoxha Marxist-Leninist, so feel free to get in contact.

[Prairie Fire]

Hello there, Im a Marxist-Leninist who identifies with the line of the Albanian Party of labor and Enver Hoxha, well.... Im not a very intresting person so there you go. Thats it.


If I didn't know better, I'd think that this was bait, tailored specifically to get my attention.

Anyways, Welcome. I'm Prairie Fire, the resident Canadian Hoxhaist around these parts. PM me if you ever need a hand with anything.

As a Canadian ML yourself, I suggest you check out our national Marxist-Leninist party (I put the link below, in my response to the other guy).



I am a little disappointed to hear of Hoxaists in my neck of the woods


Well, be more dissapointed, because the Hoxhaists are also the largest and most succesful Canadian Communist party in the post WW2 era to date: www.cpcml.ca (http://www.cpcml.ca)

[Iraultzaile Ezkerreko]

You guys aren't being too friendly...

Welcome to Revleft, comrade.

Christ, we can't have a sense of humor now? FFS, it was a joke.

[Die Rote Fahne]

If I didn't know better, I'd think that this was bait, tailored specifically to get my attention.

Anyways, Welcome. I'm Prairie Fire, the resident Canadian Hoxhaist around these parts. PM me if you ever need a hand with anything.

As a Canadian ML yourself, I suggest you check out our national Marxist-Leninist party (I put the link below, in my response to the other guy).



Well, be more dissapointed, because the Hoxhaists are also the largest and most succesful Canadian Communist party in the post WW2 era to date: www.cpcml.ca (http://www.cpcml.ca)

That's a shame

[Commissar Rykov]

If I didn't know better, I'd think that this was bait, tailored specifically to get my attention.

Anyways, Welcome. I'm Prairie Fire, the resident Canadian Hoxhaist around these parts. PM me if you ever need a hand with anything.

As a Canadian ML yourself, I suggest you check out our national Marxist-Leninist party (I put the link below, in my response to the other guy).



Well, be more dissapointed, because the Hoxhaists are also the largest and most succesful Canadian Communist party in the post WW2 era to date: www.cpcml.ca (http://www.cpcml.ca)
Woah your party leader is a dead guy? Interesting.

[Prairie Fire]

Snide comments in the place of politics. Welcome to Revleft, Red1936.



Woah your party leader is a dead guy? Interesting.


(I'm assuming that you are refering to Hardial Bains/CPC-ML)

Erm...no. The current First Secretary of CPC-ML is Sandra Smith.

http://www.cpcml.ca/Leaders/Leaders.html

The electoral front (MLPC) has it's own leader, currently Anna Di Carlo,

The current Secretary of the workers centre is Pierre Chenier,

The current youth organization leader is Jamile Ghaddar,

http://www.mlpc.ca/MLPCLeaders.html

Then, there are also provincial organizations,municipal/city organizations, youth organizations on the Provincial/municipal level with their own organization,etc.

In regards to mentioning Hardial Bains at all, as an influence in building CPC-ML, the wording of the website is clear:



Hardial Bains (August 15, 1939 - August 24, 1997) was the founder of the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist) and its leader until his untimely death in August 1997.



Quit trying to turn this into some "eternal president Kim Il Sung" shit. I'm certain that the CC of the party are all very much alive and kicking.

If this was meant as a jab at Hoxha, he was never a "leader" of CPC-ML, even during the period of the 60's and 70's. He was an influence,certainly, but the PPSH was considered a fraternal party by the CPC-ML, not superiors that they must report to (in fact, some cadres were expelled during the 60's/70's for trying to make the CPC-ML party press parrot the Albanian press to the letter, and ignore the Canadian situation).

In the present day, since the late 1980's (the time of the Chertsey meeting), the party has largely moved away from simply fawning over the socialist achievements of another nation ( perhaps they had little choice in the matter by that point), but Bains was still occasionally polemicizing on the aftermath of the demise of socialist Albania in 1996-ish. With his death in 1997, and the destruction of the PSR Albania years before, combined with the fact that most of Enver Hoxha's written works were polemics with a relatively short shelf-life, and the changes in the post-cold war situation (denouncing revisionism, when there ceased to be any socialist nation in the post cold-war world, became largely unproductive), the Albanian influence was for all intents and purposes in the background of their historical development.

The Canadian Marxist-Leninists were proactive and rectified their work while they still could, prior to the end of the cold war, and for that reason, I think that they survived while all others from that time period perished or went into crises ( the CPC, the pro-Soviet party, had a massive internal melt-down when the USSR dismantled, with mass deserting, and in the chaos propeties that they held were lost, etc).

While other "Marxist-Leninist" parties around the world today are still frozen in 1979, what makes CPC-ML still viable is primarly that they have made their own work the model for how they should proceed, and are evaluating their successes and failures on this basis. I don't think any of them regret the period of comradely relations with the Albanian party of Labour, and they have never recanted anything that they put out during that period, but they recognize that the global situation has changed, and have acted accordingly.

[Art Vandelay]

Well, be more dissapointed, because the Hoxhaists are also the largest and most succesful Canadian Communist party in the post WW2 era to date: www.cpcml.ca (http://www.cpcml.ca)

Which is evidenced by the complete shithole the canadian revolutionary left is in.

[RedGrunt]

Snide comments in the place of politics. Welcome to Revleft, Red1936.

That, tendency wars, and just generally de-motivating to new comers.


Anyhow, Welcome to Revleft! :lol:

[Agent Equality]

Hi Tir :cool:

[Tablo]

Welcome. Sorry everyone here is an asshole. Can't say your politics will be welcomed on the site.

[o well this is ok I guess]

I think Revleft is the only left community I've been on that had Hoxhaists.
This is actually where I found out Hoxhaism was a thing.
I mean not hatin' or anything
just saiyan

[Prairie Fire]

I think Revleft is the only left community I've been on that had Hoxhaists.
This is actually where I found out Hoxhaism was a thing.



Generally we don't call ourselves that. Revleft is a different environment, so a term of differentiation was needed.

Most generally go by "Marxist-Leninist" or "Anti-Revisionist".

[black magick hustla]

Which is evidenced by the complete shithole the canadian revolutionary left is in.

maybe its the weather, the subzero temperature kills a few brain cells. god why did i move here lol

[o well this is ok I guess]

maybe its the weather, the subzero temperature kills a few brain cells. god why did i move here lol Absinthe is legal? But whatever that shits expensive/disgusting.
There's not a lot of snow on the ground currently which means winter will last until early june.

[ColonelCossack]

Christ, we can't have a sense of humor now? FFS, it was a joke.

Yeah, but this user's new. they might not gett the joke! maybe we should get to know them first... understand their sense of humour... don't put them of, brah! :lol:

[Ismail]

Which is evidenced by the complete shithole the canadian revolutionary left is in.For what it's worth, the CPC-ML dropped Hoxha after the early 90's. Today they uphold Cuban and DPRK revisionism.


I think Revleft is the only left community I've been on that had Hoxhaists.
This is actually where I found out Hoxhaism was a thing.
I mean not hatin' or anything
just saiyanSome of the larger parties which associated with the Party of Labour of Albania in the past can be found in Ecuador and Burkina Faso. Not exactly places with lots of internet access. In the 1980's there were a few pro-Albania parties as well, notably the USMLO and the MLPUSA, but the latter adopted ultra-left positions while the former wasn't all that notable. There was also the KPD/ML which had sections in West and East Germany.

Here's a photo from the COUSML, which was a predecessor of the MLPUSA:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/enverhoxhausmlo.jpg

In Britain Bill Bland was in charge of publishing materials on Albania and there was accordingly a small pro-Albania party there:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/enver_hoxha_museum_16.jpg

German-language Albanian materials:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/03759910_400.jpg

And works by Hoxha in various languages:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/393-53-0-eh.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/Hoxhaworks.jpg

[Krano]

Welcome to Revleft.

[Mulciber]

Welcome to RevLeft, but jeeeez, what's with all the Canadian Hoxhaists?

[Ismail]

Welcome to RevLeft, but jeeeez, what's with all the Canadian Hoxhaists?Canada had one of the largest pro-Hoxha parties in the West historically, so yeah.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/enver_hoxha_museum_16.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/393-53-0-eh.jpg

Jesus christ, talk about a personality-cult. All the magazines say "Albania Today" but you would get the impression the only person to EVER exist in Albania is Enver Hoxha. Lots of books and pamphlets about Hoxha or by Hoxha... and... uh... yeah, nobody else.

[GatesofLenin]

Welcome comrade, great to have you here!

[Ismail]

Jesus christ, talk about a personality-cult. All the magazines say "Albania Today" but you would get the impression the only person to EVER exist in Albania is Enver Hoxha.Or that guy with really tight pants Hoxha is looking at in the bottom.

Also you can see there's plenty of non-Hoxha images if you look around the photo.


Lots of books and pamphlets about Hoxha or by Hoxha... and... uh... yeah, nobody else.That's probably because it's specifically a picture taken of Hoxha's works translated in various languages. Obviously it isn't "PHOTOGRAPH OF THE WONDERFUL SELECTION OF WORKS IN AN ALBANIAN BOOKSTORE CIRCA 1983" or whatever.

Here's a more varied photograph with newspapers, more general books, and Hoxha works at the top:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/Shkip_19.jpg

Obviously these are "official" photographs meant to emphasize Hoxha's works, but yeah.

Just to make this thread more interesting, though, here are examples of a personality cult 'round Hoxha:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/2766056931_2873d75b85.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/2846117865_b96b5da38c.jpg
(This ones says "Glory to the Vepra [Collected Works] of Comrade Enver Hoxha")

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/PallatiiKultures.jpg


http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/atehere.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc207/MrdieII/AAGB002268.jpg
(The government post-1991 had to use napalm to get rid of this)

After Hoxha's death in 1985 the State University of Tirana was renamed the Enver Hoxha University of Tirana and a big portrait was put on top of it. The Enver Hoxha Museum was opened up in 1988 and photos of it can be seen here: http://www.enverhoxha.ru/enver_hoxha_photogallery_30.htm

Golden statue of Hoxha made after his death: http://www.enverhoxha.ru/enver_hoxha_photogallery_29.htm

The Central Committee of the Party of Labour also considered embalming Hoxha's body à la Lenin and Stalin, but decided against it.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Leave it to revleft to turn a person's intro thread into a tendency war...

back on track,welcome,and enjoy your time debating (non-existent god know's there is plenty of it).