Bullying is so wrong

[Agent Equality]

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To me this not only signifies this individual kid's problem with bullying, but also highlights human relations and how it has degenerated into utter savagery at the hands of Capitalism.

[Optiow]

That's disgusting. I have been, and always will be anti-bully, because as that poor kid said they just tear you down. And that's not cool.

[Agent Equality]

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[NewLeft]

Actually you should all start raging now. Apparently the video was fake and i guess he doesn't get bullied.

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This kid needs to get a punch straight in the face for trying to fake something as bad as that

He didn't fake the video.. He might have felt isolated from the entire school, but that's a far stretch from faking it.

[The Dark Side of the Moon]

i had a problem with bullying sense the fifth grade. it is a shit terrible problem

[Stork]

Even if he was playing with people's emotions the quantity of homophobic shit posted in the comments section of the second vid is unbelievable.

[SJBarley]

Assuming the video is fake, I think it at least it serves as a moving piece of propaganda against bullying. The existence of the second video is... unfortunate

[Nox]

This video reminded me of some absolutely disgraceful shit some guy on my facebook was posting about how people who commit suicide are cowards who take the easy way out etc...

[Kitty_Paine]

“This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism..." - Albert Einstein

And that about sums it up nicely I think, no matter what the circumstance of the video may in fact be.

[OHumanista]

My childhood died because of bullying. And worse it was classicist bullying, because my parents are proles but their social condition and they put me on a "better" school (private, most kids were from cappie, petty burgeois(with their usual wannabe capitalist mindset, and even rural aristocrat background)

They treated me like shit for all that time for coming frow a "lower" class. (and thus not having their usual minset of consumerism, fashion, fame etc)
My childhood died right there. Plus I got into a years (decade) long depression from psychological harrassment (not physical because I could beat all bullies together by myself).:(
I got over it sure...but the scars are here, and it TOTALLY ruined my childhood.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Whether or not the video was a fake I honestly do not believe it matters.Jonah says in his video description that he does not have feelings of suicide so I believe he made it as an anti-bullying video.I just don't see how one can "fake it" if it was originally meant as something else anyway.

[Kitty_Paine]

My childhood died because of bullying. And worse it was classicist bullying...

They treated me like shit for all that time for coming frow a "lower" class. (and thus not having their usual minset of consumerism, fashion, fame etc)


This made me sad :( Probably because I can relate on some level. I was bullied for being poor/lower class for a couple year back in the middle school to high school transitional period. Though I can't say it lasted as long as yours did or that it had as much of an impact on me. So for what it's worth I feel empathetic towards you and your situation. But the best thing you can do is to try and not let it bother you and live not letting your past get in the way. You can still enjoy your childhood now! Forget social standards, if you wanna play in that god damn water fountain, do it! Fuck those preppy jerk offs! lol.

Fortunately the bullying stopped for me shortly after my freshman year in high school. I'm not sure why but I think it was a mixture of the fact I was 'developed' at that point and also the fact I was starting to become more aggressive... lol.

The greatest revenge you can take on those pricks is to live your life without thought or concern for what happened back then! Cliché, I know but I like it :)

[The Insurrection]

I posted this already: http://www.revleft.com/vb/child-victims-homophobia-t165512/index.html

The video wasn't fake. Read the info of this FB group for clarification: http://www.facebook.com/globalbullyawareness?sk=info

There is also another video of his friend discussing the video above, which people think hows he is lying, although I don't understand why since he says nothing of the sort.

[OHumanista]

This made me sad :( Probably because I can relate on some level. I was bullied for being poor/lower class for a couple year back in the middle school to high school transitional period. Though I can't say it lasted as long as yours did or that it had as much of an impact on me. So for what it's worth I feel empathetic towards you and your situation. But the best thing you can do is to try and not let it bother you and live not letting your past get in the way. You can still enjoy your childhood now! Forget social standards, if you wanna play in that god damn water fountain, do it! Fuck those preppy jerk offs! lol.

Fortunately the bullying stopped for me shortly after my freshman year in high school. I'm not sure why but I think it was a mixture of the fact I was 'developed' at that point and also the fact I was starting to become more aggressive... lol.

The greatest revenge you can take on those pricks is to live your life without thought or concern for what happened back then! Cliché, I know but I like it :)

Indeed, that is exactly what I intend to do (and am doing) right now :). Thanks for the support btw. For the first time in a long time I am enjoying my life, and ever since I started leaving all of that behind me things have been working out great. I still have self-esteem, and related problems but it's becoming gradually weaker as I keep moving on.

Also a "funny" fact, during my depression times I was politically something like a fascist. I felt empathy(I always had a lot) for others but I kept repressing it and punishing myself for it.

Now that I moved on (2 years ago more or less) I became a full blown commie :D

[Comrade Samuel]

Weather the video is real or not is irrelevant. Its ridiculace that parents have become so weak that they don't even try to educate their kids about what's right and wrong and simply assume the school system will do it. 50 years ago this wasn't a problem because there wasent "progressive parenting" allowing kids to do whatever they want with no consequence until they end up killing some other poor kid with theyre sexist, raceist, homophobic behavior.

[The Insurrection]

It is real. People need to stop doubting it's authenticity.

[Agent Equality]

If both are real then huzzah! I had hoped it was real but the other video made it seem like he was non-challant about it

[The Insurrection]

If both are real then huzzah! I had hoped it was real but the other video made it seem like he was non-challant about it

You have to remember that this is a 14 year old boy with limited experiences. The initial video was also made in August and he'd since started at high school. The point was not to brag, but to establish that he was OK. People with an inability to interpret basic English have then decided that this was somehow an admission of trolling. Even though he goes on to talk about his scars.

Also, his mother has gone on record discussing the video, as have various friends. It would be the most elaborate trolling in the history of trolling and for absolutely no purpose other then to pretend a 14 year old boy was being bullied...

In any case, how could any one watch that 13 year old boy (as he was at the time of the video) and think he was faking? It makes no sense to me.

[Hiero]

This kid needs to get a punch straight in the face for trying to fake something as bad as that

Yeah right in the face! Or maybe we should bully him!

[Tovarisch]

I was bullied excessively when I came to America. I realize that I was the weird foreign kid at the time who made some stupid decisions, but god dammit, nobody deserves to go through what I did. Literally 95% of the school was against me. What was worse is that they first did it behind my back, once they figured out that I caught on, they just did directly. They called me stupid, short, weirdo, vodka child, Stalin, faggot, etc. It was very hurtful. They also constantly ruined my books, pushed me into lockers, and made me feel like shit. It wasn't just the popular kids, it was everybody. And in those three years of hell, nobody ever stood up for me. My mom was no help either, she sometimes became violent and also called me stupid because I was doing very poorly in math. I became depressed and lost all energy. I spent days in bed doing nothing except homework and crying. I constantly thought about commiting suicide. However, I found joy in one thing, and one thing only. As weird as it sounds, it was masturbation. I swear, I am 100% serious. Masturbation filled a hole in my life, and it made me feel really really good about myself. I owe my life to my hand, otherwise I would not be here

[Elysian]

Empirical/statistical proof that humans are inherently evil. Oops, us leftists don't believe in evil.:cool:

[Rafiq]

I was bullied for a while after 9/11, though at the time I didn't even know wtf 9/11 was :lol: well I wasn't really ever bullied since I went out of my way to hurt those who made fun of me, sometimes I just straight out beat em up (3rd grade style). People then became scared of me.

[Ele'ill]

People then became scared of me.

It's horrible how that works. Those who defend themselves get alienated further. I've seen that in school (obviously) as well as with work place issues.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

I used to be bullied at times of my life. At somepoint, something clicked in me and I started lashing out, becoming twice as vicious back at the same people who bullied me. The thing that was the most helpful was that I started sticking up for other kids who were being bullied. I was the one the bullies never expected it from either, so I guess that helped.

[blake 3:17]

I think most of us have been bullied, and probably also done a bit of bullying.

In Ontario, there've been several suicides by young bullied queer people in the past year. The provincial government has put forward anti-bullying legislation which has come under attack from the religious Right. Here's a link to the legislation:

http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&Intranet&BillID=2549

I haven't read the legislation carefully or heard from more than a couple of people in the school system what they think of it. I worry about how it'll be enforced and what happens when the bully gets kicked out of school.

I was dealing with some very difficult workplace situations (very small workplace, no union) and found some information from Workplace Bullying Institute very helpful.

http://www.workplacebullying.org/ In my particular situation, it gave me the tools to at least name what a co-worker & I were going through and make plans to leave ASAP. In larger workplaces, especially ones that are unionized, there can be other results that are more positive.

[Kitty_Paine]

I used to be bullied at times of my life. At somepoint, something clicked in me and I started lashing out, becoming twice as vicious back at the same people who bullied me.

This is almost identical to what I went through a few years back in late middle school until, like you said, I started getting angry and lashing out at people; that was not to far into my freshman year at high school. Ever since then I haven't had a hard time, in fact quite the opposite. Some people say violence is never the answer, I respectfully disagree :lol:



The thing that was the most helpful was that I started sticking up for other kids who were being bullied. I was the one the bullies never expected it from either, so I guess that helped.

I will shamefully admit I never really participated in this, as at the time I was more interested in helping myself and I felt that if I tried to help others it would somehow make me appear weaker. Don't ask me how I came to that conclusion, lol... I guess I wanted to maintain an appearance of total uncaringness in all aspects. Not give anyone a chance to even try and bring me down...

[Nox]

I'm not sure where you draw the line between banter and bullying, but anyway I was "bullied" once for a few months by this one guy, and I managed to beat the crap out of him (knee to the head ftw) and get him expelled from the school. Double win!

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I'm not sure where you draw the line between banter and bullying, but anyway I was "bullied" once for a few months by this one guy, and I managed to beat the crap out of him (knee to the head ftw) and get him expelled from the school. Double win!

I can know about the banter thing.

When I was in elementary school there was this kid who took a habit of constantly annoying me with various words and actions.While at the time it was super annoying and I thought it was bullying, when I look back on it now I realize that it was more closely related to banter (the kind teenagers use with each other) than anything else.

Eventually I brought him up on bullying charges and things were resolved (...a school that actually does its job, I know,right?).

Also a point of interest: he attitude was not liked by very many people in the class;if I correctly recall when he moved away to another town quite a few of the other kids were happy.

[Nox]

I can know about the banter thing.

When I was in elementary school there was this kid who took a habit of constantly annoying me with various words and actions.While at the time it was super annoying and I thought it was bullying, when I look back on it now I realize that it was more closely related to banter (the kind teenagers use with each other) than anything else.

Eventually I brought him up on bullying charges and things were resolved (...a school that actually does its job, I know,right?).

Also a point of interest: he attitude was not liked by very many people in the class;if I correctly recall when he moved away to another town quite a few of the other kids were happy.

Yeah, the line between banter and bullying depends on your personality, like some people are very self-conscious (like me) and don't like being made fun of, whereas other people couldn't care less what others think about them.

My school was absolutely piss poor (been out of that hellhole since July), it was brand new and had all the latest technology but most of the teachers were shit and the team that dealt with bullying and behaviour problems was an absolute joke.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Yeah, the line between banter and bullying depends on your personality, like some people are very self-conscious (like me) and don't like being made fun of, whereas other people couldn't care less what others think about them.

Exactly, my personality is very much the same.When people play a joke on me for laughs I often get angry.I do not see it as funny but as disrespectful.


My school was absolutely piss poor (been out of that hellhole since July), it was brand new and had all the latest technology but most of the teachers were shit and the team that dealt with bullying and behaviour problems was an absolute joke.

I think it is like that in many school districts: clean up the mess with a new building and say that things are all right under the false impression that having a new area somehow fixes the faults of the teachers (or lack of unions perhaps).

[Elysian]

Exactly, my personality is very much the same.When people play a joke on me for laughs I often get angry.I do not see it as funny but as disrespectful.

Same here. What I hate is the hypocrisy of people who make fun of you. If you make fun of them, they get angry - and yet they maintain we shouldn't be sensitive and get angry at jokes.:cursing:

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

This is almost identical to what I went through a few years back in late middle school until, like you said, I started getting angry and lashing out at people; that was not to far into my freshman year at high school. Ever since then I haven't had a hard time, in fact quite the opposite. Some people say violence is never the answer, I respectfully disagree :lol:I know violence can be used for good. I had an advantage, being a lot tougher than I look.




I will shamefully admit I never really participated in this, as at the time I was more interested in helping myself and I felt that if I tried to help others it would somehow make me appear weaker. Don't ask me how I came to that conclusion, lol... I guess I wanted to maintain an appearance of total uncaringness in all aspects. Not give anyone a chance to even try and bring me down...
Yeah, I got a kick out of the shock the bullies got when I kicked their asses.

[Hiero]

Exactly, my personality is very much the same.When people play a joke on me for laughs I often get angry.I do not see it as funny but as disrespectful.

That is probably why he choose you.

There is a whole rang of bullying in schools. The sort you described "the bully" appears withdrawn, isolated from groups and anxious. Then there is the other sort, where groups of kids are just being mean an sometimes reall mean.

[Firebrand]

Tip, when dealing with verbal bullying its best not to retaliate physically. The trick is to hit back hard with some biting comments of your own. If you make your comments funny it can have the additional benefit of defusing the situation so you don't injure the bully's pride. That way they won't look for ways to get back at you. Plus if you develop a reputation for a brutal sense of humour people tend not to pick on you, just in case you make them look stupid.

[MotherCossack]

Weather the video is real or not is irrelevant. Its ridiculace that parents have become so weak that they don't even try to educate their kids about what's right and wrong and simply assume the school system will do it. 50 years ago this wasn't a problem because there wasent "progressive parenting" allowing kids to do whatever they want with no consequence until they end up killing some other poor kid with theyre sexist, raceist, homophobic behavior.

the first bit of this i agree with...
it happens!
humanity is a nasty little shit to itself when it is allowed to be...
peer group pressure!!!???
what the fok is that about?!
what does that do?
why do we...i mean ... is it fun!!!!?????
or what?
the second part*i may have a problem with....
as a PROUD MUM of 4, i try as hard as i can, no really!!!, to show them the real world, our world, the real us, the good us and prepare them for the bad stuff that is all over the place.
being, of course, only human, i make loads of mistakes and get it wrong a lot of the time...
i hope i am able to admit and be honest with them and me...and never, ever
delegate responsibility to any other party or institution none of whom i would trust (sadly, at least in the foreseeable future)to make anything like a valid or humane social or moral judgement.
i do agree that we have broken our collective moral compass, or at least forgotten how to read it, but vehemently insist that i am trying, have my eye on the ball...
but something happens at school or/and when they are exposed to current social, moral trends/ structures....
i think basically that society has gone to shit, lost its way and is as we speak floundering like an outraged, young, pseudo- sophisticated , vaguely confused, increasingly discontent overgrown teenager with far too much money and nowhere near enough humility....
or is that just me....or...
no!
some of us....or
some of them...or...
some of you...?