Help me refute this racist ignorance?

[Catmatic Leftist]

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[#FF0000]

it's a youtube video who cares

[Catmatic Leftist]

it's a youtube video who cares

Any good reads on this subject?

[Revolutionair]

At around 1:00 she acts as if taking pride in your childrens achievements is the same as racial pride. There is a fundemental difference: the behaviour of your children is largely an extension of how you raised them. If your children are polite towards people, then you can attribute that to the labor you have invested in teaching them good manners. Racial pride on the other hand, is largely based on fear for people with a different skin color. Acting like both prides have the same premise is dishonest.

I didn't watch the whole video yet (and I probably won't), but this is how you should think about other people's claims. Think about what they are based on. If you are not sure about what a person bases his/her claim on, just ask that person. It is his/her responsibility to give arguments for his/her position.

edit:
At 2:15, she lists good and bad qualities for nations, but doesn't explain why those things are good or bad. Diversity undermines national cohesion, so what? What's so good about national-cohesion? I think national-cohesion is actually something that we should be cautious of. I don't know who said it, but it expresses my feelings: "a society that is unable to critique itself is a dangerous society".
She is actively tricking people into believing her opinions are fact, by listing her opinions as facts or absolute values, which is dishonest.

edit2 hopefully last one:
AT 3:26 she is not investigating ANY causes of these numbers. I could point at Norway and say: hey that is a pretty social-democratic nation. Norway also has a flag with red in it. According to her that would be a "stunning correlation". A very plausible explanation of her statistics could be, oh I don't know, the fact that there is a fucking huge income disparity in the US? The Eastern Block has extremely high crime rates nowadays (no offense), yet there is not as much multiculturalism as in the West, where crime rates are relatively lower.


Conclusions:
1. She is dishonest on purpose.
2. It is a youtube video.
3. She doesn't know jack shit about what she is talking about.
Out of the above 3 points it follows that she, and her video, should be ignored.

[#FF0000]

I wish I could suggest one.

But to refute some of the dumb things she's said:

"Diversity doesn't happen without force"

That one is absolute horseshit. Diversity has been a thing since people had legs and walked to a new place. I mean, shit, Europe is and was diverse as fuck, with all sorts of different people -- celts, germanic tribes, Romans, Moors, vikings, etc. etc. etc.

And you could go even farther back than that, honestly.

And then there's the thing she said about being proud of being "white". I think she's right that people can feel pride in just about anything that they feel gives them a sense of value. That's why I think it's a-okay for people to walk about being proud of being Irish, German, Italian, Russian, etc. etc. etc. BUT that is not the same thing as being proud of being White.

That's because Whiteness is completely a social construct to put one group of people over another. Ethnicity on the other hand is something with a little more substance -- "culture" and shit like that. Still kinda dumb, I think, but it's not the same as being proud of being "white". There is no such thing as "white culture". "White people" do not have a shared heritage, language, culture, or religion. "Whiteness" is just a position of relative privilege (or something -- I don't know if that's the best way to put it)

[Revolutionair]

A very important point to figure out whether an educational video is honest is not is: is the maker of this video trying to DISPROVE his/her own thesis? If you are doing research based on science, you should always add disclaimers about why your thesis might not be true.
For instance if I was a medieval scientist: I think that there is a force that pulls everything towards the ground. I think this means that there is a pulling force underneath the ground, but I could be wrong if mass attracts other mass.

Idiotic example but it illustrates my point. That line in bold is an important indicator of something scientific: making your point falsifiable and trying to falsify it yourself.

In her video you could see she was mystifying her own points on purpose. She is trying to make the discussion more unclear instead of more clear!

[CommunityBeliever]

The recent genocide in Rwandan was precipitated by a collapse in the country's principal export: coffee. The underlying reason people's differences (race, religion, etc) become antagonistic is economic inadequacy not diversity.

[Tim Finnegan]

It's always funny when people like her try to pose themselves as marginalised light-bringers because their views aren't "popular" or "mainstream", conveniently forgetting that they were entirely popular and mainstream for a good two hundred years, and that everybody else dropped them because they were scientifically spurious and morally repugnant.

[Commissar Rykov]

She looks like J. Edgar Hoover in drag except less hot.

[Catmatic Leftist]

I looked further into her videos; she is an outright fascist. Nevermind.

[NewLeft]

I'm tired of your pseudo socialist dogma.. :rolleyes: She said while ignoring criticisms of all the studies and books she mentioned.

I think this deserves a gold star.

[Commissar Rykov]

I looked further into her videos; she is an outright fascist. Nevermind.

Not surprising she was using your typical White Nationalist buzzwords and their typical martyrdom defense. OMG you hate me because I love my race! Yeah that must be it lady.

[NewLeft]

0nqxrFTsrkg

She was 'far left' before.. :rolleyes: She has comprehension issues..

She calls herself a "race realist.." Someone found stormfront.

[Chambered Word]

She looks like J. Edgar Hoover in drag except less hot.

Last time I checked the discussion was on her moronic viewpoints, not on what she looks like. Still, I found her facial expressions hilarious, it looked like she was genuinely scared of all those horrible diverse people coming into her country. :lol:

Anyway I got up to about 2:30 before I got bored, her video has already been disliked so many times and the flaws in her arguments were so obvious that I don't know why you'd bother, it's YouTube for god's sake.

[MarxSchmarx]

She looks like J. Edgar Hoover in drag except less hot.

This isn't chitchat. Cheap shot one-liners don't get us anywhere. Please consider yourself verbally warned.

[Tim Finnegan]

She calls herself a "race realist.." Someone found stormfront.
What's wrong with that? Their prices are very reasonable!

http://lds.localdataimages.com/large/2101/21014287.jpg

[m1omfg]

AThe Eastern Block has extremely high crime rates nowadays (no offense), yet there is not as much multiculturalism as in the West, where crime rates are relatively lower.

As much as I disagree with racist dipshits, I have to disagree with your claim also. Look up intentional homicide rate on Wikipedia - the ex-Eastern Bloc countries have a low murder rate, with the exception of Russia. God damn it, we have problems, but we are not Mad Max.

[NewLeft]

What's wrong with that? Their prices are very reasonable!

http://lds.localdataimages.com/large/2101/21014287.jpg

Don't give them ideas. :p

[Tim Finnegan]

Don't give them ideas. :p
Don't give who ideas? That's an actual store.

[Stork]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtJU38yRJYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLOtBilB8Bo
There's allot of folks like this. It's part of a debate between ancaps that's been going on for months, it started out being about if there's intelligence correlates to race, the egalitarians won that one, then it broadened into "do races exist?" the hereditarians won that one, then affirmative action, then aid to the third world, "is racism natural?" and all sorts.
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enjoy

[Zealot]

This guy seems to destroy all of her points and shows her misrepresentation of the sources used: http://www.strangerandfriend.com/?p=11

[Os Cangaceiros]

She claims that diversity is only enforced by force, but the same could also be claimed for any sort of monolithic national culture. How the hell are you going to prevent your culture from being "polluted" by outside influences? Historically cultures have been isolated through purely geographic means...cultures who managed to circumvent this (like the Romans, or esp. the Vikings, who established trade routes from north America to Baghdad) mingled with all sorts of different peoples and nations. It seems to me that being interested in different cultures is a common feeling in many people, and I'd be interested to know what the nationalists invision in contrast to this. A nation completely isolated from "contamination" by different races or differing cultural influences? When has that actually happened in the modern era?

[阿部高和]

Who cares what this one ignorant individual thinks.

[Catmatic Leftist]

I was actually hoping for some reads on this subject. I probably should have been more specific in the OP.

I've heard of Mismeasure of Man by Stephen J. Gould but I heard that it is riddled with glaring flaws.

[Commissar Rykov]

She claims that diversity is only enforced by force, but the same could also be claimed for any sort of monolithic national culture. How the hell are you going to prevent your culture from being "polluted" by outside influences? Historically cultures have been isolated through purely geographic means...cultures who managed to circumvent this (like the Romans, or esp. the Vikings, who established trade routes from north America to Baghdad) mingled with all sorts of different peoples and nations. It seems to me that being interested in different cultures is a common feeling in many people, and I'd be interested to know what the nationalists invision in contrast to this. A nation completely isolated from "contamination" by different races or differing cultural influences? When has that actually happened in the modern era?
It never has and never will that is the problem. Nationalists have this highly idealized view of the world and it is heavily based on the past even though history typically doesn't support their bizarre interpretations. I don't know how anyone in the Modern Era could literally cut themselves off from the World and survive. Though most Nationalists either abandon their bizarre ideas or get into the idea of giant apocalyptic race wars and shit.

[SJBarley]

It says something about the intellectual content of that video that all I could think about was where the fuck was her furniture?

[Franz Fanonipants]

this lady is rhetorically boring

that should be about all you need

E: lol "more tribally"

[black magick hustla]

atheist dumb white girl on the internet why do u care these things grow like fuckin fungi on the internet

[Franz Fanonipants]

atheist dumb white girl on the internet why do u care these things grow like fuckin fungi on the internet

she is basically the inverse of me i wonder if she is my nagual

[Tovarisch]

That is stupid, you don't need force to live in diversity. She is incredibly ignorant to think that


As much as I disagree with racist dipshits, I have to disagree with your claim also. Look up intentional homicide rate on Wikipedia - the ex-Eastern Bloc countries have a low murder rate, with the exception of Russia. God damn it, we have problems, but we are not Mad Max.

That is because Russia turned into an all-capitalist society. Seriously, our flat tax rates are 13%. How do we expect to run a society with a 13% tax? Most of our police force are very good, it is not them, it is the fact that many corporate crimes fly under radar. Our politicians are dirtier than sewer rats

And fun fact, Washington DC has a higher murder rate than Moscow

[HEAD ICE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtJU38yRJYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLOtBilB8Bo
There's allot of folks like this. It's part of a debate between ancaps that's been going on for months, it started out being about if there's intelligence correlates to race, the egalitarians won that one, then it broadened into "do races exist?" the hereditarians won that one, then affirmative action, then aid to the third world, "is racism natural?" and all sorts.
ukfHG4iYi10
enjoy

damn i hate youtube debates but it is always funny watching scientific racists getting exploded he got owned

[The Young Pioneer]

0nqxrFTsrkg

She was 'far left' before.. :rolleyes: She has comprehension issues..

She calls herself a "race realist.." Someone found stormfront.

"I'm not a hippie anymore..."

"Like, ummm, I totallllly, need to talk about leaving myyyyy faith..."

"I've been kinda ummmm, struggling...internal conflict....uhhhhh....spending many hours investigating, umm...cutting cultural ties...so, probably, uhhhh...identity theft in...in...in western society...uhhh...I'm just really trying to figure out who I am...I uh...owe that to my um, ancestors...."

I don't really care. I really see no point in reacting to this at all. Sat here watching that and mundanely plucking out my eyebrow hair.

[Commissar Rykov]

"I'm not a hippie anymore..."

"Like, ummm, I totallllly, need to talk about leaving myyyyy faith..."

"I've been kinda ummmm, struggling...internal conflict....uhhhhh....spending many hours investigating, umm...cutting cultural ties...so, probably, uhhhh...identity theft in...in...in western society...uhhh...I'm just really trying to figure out who I am...I uh...owe that to my um, ancestors...."

I don't really care. I really see no point in reacting to this at all. Sat here watching that and mundanely plucking out my eyebrow hair.
I could barely last a minute before I had to find something else to do with my time.

[Catmatic Leftist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtJU38yRJYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLOtBilB8Bo
There's allot of folks like this. It's part of a debate between ancaps that's been going on for months, it started out being about if there's intelligence correlates to race, the egalitarians won that one, then it broadened into "do races exist?" the hereditarians won that one, then affirmative action, then aid to the third world, "is racism natural?" and all sorts.
ukfHG4iYi10
enjoy

LOL. Just watched the video. HE. GOT. DESTROYED.

[RedZero]

I was able to get to 2:30. ...NOPE. Can't watch anymore.

[anarcho-communist4]

Instead of complaining about this singular racist, shouldn't we be complaining about the larger agencies perpetuating her racist thought?