Senate Votes To Let Military Detain Americans Indefinitely

[RedZero]

Senate Votes To Let Military Detain Americans Indefinitely, White House Threatens Veto -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/senate-votes-to-let-military-detain-americans-indefinitely_n_1119473.html?ref=tw

I have no words.

[Tablo]

What. The. Fuck. I hope Obama vetoes this shit. It's surprising seeing the level of mixed opinions amongst the senate though.

[RedZero]

Here is the list of Senate votes on the Udall amendment that would have killed the provision. You can thank those who voted NAY: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00210

[Aloysius]

It is a little scary, but I'm glad the Senate shut it down.

[RedZero]

It is a little scary, but I'm glad the Senate shut it down.

:confused:

[Tablo]

Glad it didn't pass.

[RedZero]

Those who voted "NAY" kept the amendment from killing the provision. Therefore, the provision (for military to arrest US citizens) still exists. Those who voted 'nay' = not good. ...I think. Unless I'm misunderstanding what I read...

[Ostrinski]

Fuck.. what are the criteria for "terrorism suspect?"

[RedZero]

Read the military detention bill here: http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2438-Read-the-Military-Detention-Bill-

[Per Levy]

But 16 Democrats and an independent joined with Republicans to defeat an amendment (http://scr.bi/tlO1TE) by Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) that would have killed the provision, voting it down with 61 against, and 37 for it.

so from reading this the amendment that would have killed this disgrace was voted down.

fucking hell, at least now everyone that hasnt seen it before can see how much the us senate cares about "democracy" and "human rights". if it wont get vetoed it will be used to break any progressive movement that could threaten capital somehow.

[NewLeft]

Is anyone surprised by who voted Nay? Nope.

[Martin Blank]

Fuck.. what are the criteria for "terrorism suspect?"

There's a lot of BS on paper, but the only real criterion is that the President believes you are and declares you to be.

[Green/Red]

35 Democrats, 2 Republicans and one Independent voted for the Udall amendment.

[Sendo]

So this is basically formalizing what has already been practiced under Obama. The military can do whatever it wants to US citizens and constitutional rights don't exist. (see Anwar al-Awlaki)

On the other hand, it would extend military authority to the domestic sphere, which should be only for police and the national guard, right? Not like the constitution matters in any case. They'll try to get away with whatever they can get away with.