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RedAnarchist
29th November 2011, 11:04
I thought this may be of interest to some of our members here.


The only daughter of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin has died of colon cancer in a US care home, aged 85.

Svetlana Alliluyeva, also known as Lana Peters, passed away in the state of Wisconsin on 22 November, US officials have confirmed to BBC Russian.

Her defection from the Soviet Union in 1967 was a propaganda coup for the US. She wrote four books, including two best-selling memoirs.

But she said she could not escape the shadow of her father.

When Peters arrived in the US, she said she had come for the "self-expression that has been denied me for so long in Russia".

She said her defection was partly motivated by the Soviet authorities' poor treatment of Brijesh Singh, an Indian communist whom she had a relationship with.

Although she later referred to Singh as her husband, the two were never allowed to marry.

Peters went to India in 1966 to spread Singh's ashes, but instead of returning to the Soviet Union she walked into a US embassy to seek political asylum.

She burned her passport, denouncing communism and her father, whom she called "a moral and spiritual monster".

She graduated from Moscow University in 1949, initially working as a teacher and translator.

Peters was married three times and had two daughters and a son.

Her first memoir, Twenty Letters to a Friend, was published in 1967 and made more than $2.5m (£1.6m).

She took the name Lana Peters upon marrying architect William Wesley Peters in the US.

The couple settled in central Wisconsin and had a daughter, Olga, before divorcing in 1973.

She returned to the Soviet Union briefly in the 1980s, renouncing the US, but left again after feuding with relatives.

In an interview in 1990 with the Independent newspaper, Peters said she had no money and was living with Olga in a rented house.

Stalin, who died in 1953, is deemed responsible for the deaths of millions of his countrymen.

Peters - who was six years old when her mother took her own life - was once close to her father, who called her his "little sparrow". But they grew distant in his final years.

He sent her first love, a Jewish filmmaker, to Siberia.

Her brother, Jacob, died in a Nazi concentration camp during World War II when her father refused to exchange him for a German general, and her other brother, Vasili, died an alcoholic, aged 40.

Lana Peters bemoaned the constant association with her father.

"People say, 'Stalin's daughter, Stalin's daughter,' meaning I'm supposed to walk around with a rifle and shoot the Americans," she once said.

"Or they say, 'No, she came here. She is an American citizen.' That means I'm with a bomb against the others.

"No, I'm neither one. I'm somewhere in between. That 'somewhere in between' they can't understand."

While Peters denounced her father's regime, she also blamed other communist party leaders for the Soviet Union's policy of sending millions to labour camps.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15931683

Elysian
29th November 2011, 12:12
So much for Soviet Union having been a communist paradise.:rolleyes:

The Idler
29th November 2011, 18:35
What party(s) was she in?

RedAnarchist
29th November 2011, 19:34
What party(s) was she in?

In the US?

Grigori
29th November 2011, 23:02
She's dead, please don't hate.

rednordman
29th November 2011, 23:26
Indeed Grigori. And don't use it as way to start a sect war either.

CynicalIdealist
29th November 2011, 23:33
Trillions!

Hey now, saying "millions" isn't absurd. It's the stupid numbers cited like 50 million that make zero sense.

eyeheartlenin
30th November 2011, 00:12
I remember when she came to the US ("defected," in the old Cold War jargon) and was "Svetlana," which, the press said, meant "light of the world," IIRC. I was a Russian language major in college at the time, and a couple of our professors commented on her arrival in the US, one of them remarking that her English was very good, with only a slight Russian accent. I remember reading that her mother died either as a suicide or under mysterious circumstances. Her grandfather, Alliluyev, was an old Bolshevik, and Stalin knew the family, probably from his political work. If she made a few million on her first book, I have to wonder how she later became impoverished. Maybe kapitalizm was to blame.

Commissar Rykov
30th November 2011, 00:32
I wonder if that was the same woman in the RT docus about Stalin that spoke highly of him wouldn't seem like it from this information. I can't remember if it was a daughter or granddaughter.

Rooster
30th November 2011, 00:47
Trillions!

I find that this sort of thing is totally offensive to the millions that did die.

Nox
30th November 2011, 01:03
I find that this sort of thing is totally offensive to the millions that did die.

Ridiculous figures like 20 million are also totally offensive to the millions that did die. He wasn't joking about the dead, he was joking about the ridiculous numbers (like 20 million) that are thrown around as if they're fact.

Manic Impressive
30th November 2011, 01:33
It also says "deemed" which only means that millions of deaths are attributed to him. It's not giving a ridiculous number and it's not even claiming that those numbers are correct. It's simply acknowledging that those claims exist, which imo is unusually impartial for the BBC.

heyjoe
30th November 2011, 02:20
rest in peace

DaringMehring
30th November 2011, 04:59
Stalin's daughter disowned him as a monster, his wife killed herself, his close friend Ordzhonikidze committed suicide, he had his close associate "Uncle" Abel Yenukidze shot, his son tried to kill himself and then drank himself to death...

Sounds like a great guy to know...

30th November 2011, 05:16
Honestly this why MLs are an enigma to me. What do they say about this? I know plenty of people who lived in Stalinist Russia and equated it to hell. They tend to be apolitical and still dislike Capitalism.

NewLeft
30th November 2011, 05:22
She doesn't have much to say about her father.. Except that he was kind and loved her.. and wanted her to be a Marxist historian?

eyeheartlenin
30th November 2011, 22:58
Vassili Aksyonov wrote a trilogy, Generations of Winter, about Soviet rule, that opens (IIRC) at the time of the suppression of the revolt at Kronstadt, and ends about a day after Stalin's death. It is a beautifully written work, and, after I read it, I felt I understood a little bit better what living under Stalinism must have been like. As I think about Aksyonov's novel now, the ending of it is a lot like the way the film The Lives of Others (which IMHO is right up there with District 9 as a masterpiece) concludes.

One of the research groups I used to work for had a visiting scholar that had grown up in the DDR, under Stalinism in power, and that guy was probably the most money-centered person I ever met. Years ago, I got the impression from reading the paper, that the eastern part of Germany, the ex-DDR, subsequently produced an awful lot of fascists, after German reunification. I can only imagine that living under Stalinism was a ghastly experience.

Historian Orlando Figes wrote a very interesting book, The Whisperers, about domestic life in Stalin's Russia, and the first 270 pages give the impression that life in the old USSR was grim indeed.

Leftie
30th November 2011, 23:22
Stalin's daughter disowned him as a monster, his wife killed herself, his close friend Ordzhonikidze committed suicide, he had his close associate "Uncle" Abel Yenukidze shot, his son tried to kill himself and then drank himself to death...

Sounds like a great guy to know...

I'm no fan of Stalin, but to be fair, his wife probably had mental problems, his daughter left primarily because the love of her life was killed by the authorities, his son was hated by all and even more after Stalins death and this heap of pressure lead to depression.

Philosopher Jay
9th January 2012, 20:30
i read her book about twenty years ago. As I recall, she portrayed Stalin as a loving, but overly protective father. As I recall, the worst thing she accused him of was having her soldier-boyfriend, whom he disapproved of, transferred, so he would not be able to see her.
She did not seem anti-communist, but it seemed she was forced to make a few pro-forma anti-communist statements for propaganda purposes in order to stay in the United States. Please remember that when she left the Soviet Union, Stalin was not looked upon favorably. He was accused of numerous crimes by the CPUSSR and being his daughter could not have been an easy thing at that time.
She is probably telling the truth when she says that she was neither pro nor anti communist but somewhere in the middle.

Ocean Seal
9th January 2012, 20:38
Stalin's daughter disowned him as a monster, his wife killed herself, his close friend Ordzhonikidze committed suicide, he had his close associate "Uncle" Abel Yenukidze shot, his son tried to kill himself and then drank himself to death...

Sounds like a great guy to know...
Its a good thing we care about our leaders personal lives because without that we can't appreciate the theoretical and practical portions of their ideologies. And of course great man theory + western propaganda for the win.

VirgJans12
9th January 2012, 20:40
"People say, 'Stalin's daughter, Stalin's daughter,' meaning I'm supposed to walk around with a rifle and shoot the Americans," she once said.

"Or they say, 'No, she came here. She is an American citizen.' That means I'm with a bomb against the others.

"No, I'm neither one. I'm somewhere in between. That 'somewhere in between' they can't understand."

Typically American. Either you're some anti-American European/terrorist or you're a true patriot of freedom and democracy.