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Connolly
23rd November 2011, 20:44
I came across this term recently and it seems to be equated with 'anarchism', but I cant seem to find any information on 'omnarchy'/omnarchism.

Does anyone have any information on omnarchy?

Who used it, who started it, what it stands for and the origin and etymology of the word 'omn-archy'.

Does it differ in some way to anarchism? - or is it just a word to describe the same thing?

Prinskaj
23rd November 2011, 21:53
This belongs in "Learning"..

Niggel
29th November 2011, 17:49
Hi Connolly,

haven't heard about the word before and after I googled it I just found one document where it was used in the context of anarchism.
"More pragmatically, and to take just one example, using the well-known Political Compass which measures economic and personal freedom as two separate variables,
David Nolan argued that, whilst it is theoretically possible for any score on one variable to be found with any score on the other, in reality historic systems of government
have tended to fall within a relatively narrow range either side of a discovered central anarchy/omnarchy - i.e. com- plete freedom/no freedom - axis which he called the
‘zone of stability’." (Economic and Political Freedom - just google it I am not allowed to post links just yet)

As he describes the extremes of the spectrum whereas "complete freedom" and "no freedom" are the two extremes and anarchy and omnarchy. My guess is that it is just a typo here (have you found the word in the same text?) and supposed to be Monarchy. Monarchy would be the other extreme end compared to Anarchism and the sentence would make sense to me.
I hope I was able to help you even though the 'typo' explanation probably was not what you were looking for!

Regards
Niggel

ComradeOm
29th November 2011, 22:30
Omnarchy from Greek, to mean 'rule by Om'. I am of course in favour of such an arrangement

On a more serious note, it is, as far as I am aware, a nonsense term. There is no anarchist current, past or present, that describes itself as 'omnarchist'

Vanguard1917
29th November 2011, 23:09
Omnarchy from Greek, to mean 'rule by Om'. I am of course in favour of such an arrangement

On a more serious note, it is, as far as I am aware, a nonsense term. There is no anarchist current, past or present, that describes itself as 'omnarchist'

Is this a cue for us to start one?

hatzel
29th November 2011, 23:23
A simple Google search tells us all we need to know: some random no-mark seemingly invented a word for their little idea and set up a Facebook group, which now has an almighty 31 followers. Definitely changing the world. But by 'omnarchy' they mean 'democracy.' Council communism, it seems. There's nothing new there. Nothing original.

I don't know if anybody else has used the word to refer to a genuine socialist current, but I doubt it.

Tim Cornelis
29th November 2011, 23:33
Hi Connolly,

haven't heard about the word before and after I googled it I just found one document where it was used in the context of anarchism.
"More pragmatically, and to take just one example, using the well-known Political Compass which measures economic and personal freedom as two separate variables,
David Nolan argued that, whilst it is theoretically possible for any score on one variable to be found with any score on the other, in reality historic systems of government
have tended to fall within a relatively narrow range either side of a discovered central anarchy/omnarchy - i.e. com- plete freedom/no freedom - axis which he called the
‘zone of stability’." (Economic and Political Freedom - just google it I am not allowed to post links just yet)

As he describes the extremes of the spectrum whereas "complete freedom" and "no freedom" are the two extremes and anarchy and omnarchy. My guess is that it is just a typo here (have you found the word in the same text?) and supposed to be Monarchy. Monarchy would be the other extreme end compared to Anarchism and the sentence would make sense to me.
I hope I was able to help you even though the 'typo' explanation probably was not what you were looking for!

Regards
Niggel

If they mean "anarchy" as complete freedom and "omnarchy" as complete lack of freedom, doesn't "omnarchy" simply mean "omnipresent authority" or "omnipresence of rulers" whereas "anarchy" means "no rulers" or "no authority"

Rusty Shackleford
29th November 2011, 23:42
omnarchy - the all system system.




monarchoplebianfascittrotsckoleninistbukhariniteka ntianconstitutionalistrepublicanismwithinfluences ofeverythingelseyoucanimaginelikesomesortofcapital ismorwhateveritsjusteverrythinganditsfuckingmindBO GGLEing

ComradeOm
30th November 2011, 05:44
Is this a cue for us to start one?You can never have too many -isms. I now eagerly await threads in which people argue over the nuance of my old posts, declaring their interpretation to be a true reflection of the great Om's thoughts

Rocky Rococo
30th November 2011, 06:20
You can never have too many -isms. I now eagerly await threads in which people argue over the nuance of my old posts, declaring their interpretation to be a true reflection of the great Om's thoughts

Well it's a good marketing move on your part. It's likely you've more or less maxed out the number of people you can get chanting "Om" in the religious sector, so opening up a new profit center in the political marketplace makes sense.

leemadison11
1st December 2011, 10:37
I am still confused about the term, can some one tell me the origin of the term, it may help in understanding the way it was used in its origin.

Connolly
3rd December 2011, 18:03
Hi Connolly,

haven't heard about the word before and after I googled it I just found one document where it was used in the context of anarchism.
"More pragmatically, and to take just one example, using the well-known Political Compass which measures economic and personal freedom as two separate variables,
David Nolan argued that, whilst it is theoretically possible for any score on one variable to be found with any score on the other, in reality historic systems of government
have tended to fall within a relatively narrow range either side of a discovered central anarchy/omnarchy - i.e. com- plete freedom/no freedom - axis which he called the
‘zone of stability’." (Economic and Political Freedom - just google it I am not allowed to post links just yet)

As he describes the extremes of the spectrum whereas "complete freedom" and "no freedom" are the two extremes and anarchy and omnarchy. My guess is that it is just a typo here (have you found the word in the same text?) and supposed to be Monarchy. Monarchy would be the other extreme end compared to Anarchism and the sentence would make sense to me.
I hope I was able to help you even though the 'typo' explanation probably was not what you were looking for!

Regards
Niggel

No its definitley not a typo. I came across the term from a book written in I think 1972. In this book it is referred to as "rule by all" I believe, so it is not entirely opposite to anarchism.

But it is interesting to see that the term barely exists on the internet, and is not in political dictionaries.

I would love to here the origin of the term and its actual meaning.

Connolly
3rd December 2011, 18:18
If they mean "anarchy" as complete freedom and "omnarchy" as complete lack of freedom, doesn't "omnarchy" simply mean "omnipresent authority" or "omnipresence of rulers" whereas "anarchy" means "no rulers" or "no authority"

I think you may have hit the nail on the head there.

I found this:

"In a 1971 article in The Individualist, Denver advertising executive David F. Nolan proposed the use of a two-dimensional political graph--a rectangle--to replace the old one-dimensional line. He reasoned that what really defines a person's position politically is the degree of government activism he or she advocates. The two extremes are no government at all (anarchy) and pervasive, totalitarian government (which Nolan dubbed "omnarchy"). "

http://www.karenselick.com/CL9505.html

So it seems to have been 'invented' by a David F. Nolan. Though it would be interesting to know if it has been used before him.

Connolly
3rd December 2011, 18:23
Seeing as the term has been little used and probably adopted by nobody bar ComradOm :lol: and Nolan, Omnarchy would probably be a fitting label for the sort of surveillance society we see developing today. Cameras everywhere, our lives being increasingly reliant on monitorable technology etc.

Omnarchy - the omnipresence of the state.

How fitting...

Connolly
3rd December 2011, 18:39
Reference to the term here:

"Francois Charles Marie Fourier (http://bss.sfsu.edu/jacksonc/H111/UtopSoc/fourier[1].jpeg) (1772-1837): capitalism creates all kinds of poverty; phylansteries; eventual “omnarchy”"

http://bss.sfsu.edu/jacksonc/H111/H111l13UtopSoc.htm


What is sought by the people calling themselves anarchists is not absense of government, but the abolition of external government in order to permit the unhindered operation of internal government, self-government. This means that their chosen title is a misnomer; the “anarchist” movement needs another name. “Autogestion” and “self-management” describe what it is working for, but they are not readily turned into adjectives and they lack dynamism. “Omnarchy” comes to mind, but brings no shiver of delight. Any suggestions?(1986)

http://gwiep.net/wp/?tag=ic24

ok a comment and two questions. first of all, im more individualistic so im for possession(not property) and money. first isn't anarchy a form of omnarchy by free association?

http://anarchistnews.org/node/10740

ckaihatsu
5th December 2011, 00:38
omnarchy


The political position that Big Brother is still a part of the family after all....


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