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Os Cangaceiros
20th November 2011, 02:51
Who else is a fan?

Even when they're bad, I think they're still pretty good. Independence Day, Signs, War Of The Worlds, Mars Attacks etc. Human national liberation fronts fighting against alien imperialism, it's something we can all support (although Starship Troopers kind of turned it on it's head, portraying the humans as the aggressors).

The latest one I saw as Battle Los Angeles, which was almost intolerably corny. Ugggghhh I just wanted to see huge explosions, limbs and alien guts go flying across my screen, instead I got a bunch of bullshit

The Douche
20th November 2011, 03:01
Who else is a fan?

Even when they're bad, I think they're still pretty good. Independence Day, Signs, War Of The Worlds, Mars Attacks etc. Human national liberation fronts fighting against alien imperialism, it's something we can all support (although Starship Troopers kind of turned it on it's head, portraying the humans as the aggressors).

The latest one I saw as Battle Los Angeles, which was almost intolerably corny. Ugggghhh I just wanted to see huge explosions, limbs and alien guts go flying across my screen, instead I got a bunch of bullshit

Dude, the bugs struck first in starship troopers. First they massacred those missionaries, and then they attacked the earth with asteroids.

Os Cangaceiros
20th November 2011, 03:04
Wasn't there a part where a reporter asks the main character to address the fact that human expansionism had provoked the bugs into attacking?

The Douche
20th November 2011, 03:07
Wasn't there a part where a reporter asks the main character to address the fact that human expansionism had provoked the bugs into attacking?

I thought that the missionaries who went to the bug planet were actually told not to go there? They were referred to as "extremeists".

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
20th November 2011, 03:15
Dude, the bugs struck first in starship troopers. First they massacred those missionaries, and then they attacked the earth with asteroids.

I think it was kind of left intentionally hazy as to whether the bugs had anything to do with the asteroid - at any rate, it was utilised as an excuse for the fascist human society to start a badly planned war with the commiebugs (as the scum-bag Heinlein saw them).

socialistjustin
20th November 2011, 04:04
Love those movies as well. The original War of the Worlds was the shit yo.

Magón
20th November 2011, 04:50
I thought that the missionaries who went to the bug planet were actually told not to go there? They were referred to as "extremeists".

Weren't the Missionaries sent there, Mormons? (At least in the film they are, I don't know about the book.)

Also, I'd rather watch Battle: LA over Skyline, that was so shitty.

Geiseric
20th November 2011, 05:03
Battle LA was soooo shitty. I'm gonna listen to the radio orson welles war of the worlds though

x359594
20th November 2011, 05:27
The 1956 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers was an allegory of middle class conformity and anti-communist paranoia according to Don Siegel who directed the movie.

The 1970s version continued the same the theme, and Abel Ferrara's version added a conspiratorial element.

The TV series V was popular in apartheid South Africa as a covert anti-colonialist parable, and showed the humans committing acts of terrorism against the alien invaders.

I've always wanted to see a movie version about post liberated earth, something like After the Cataclysm: Post-War Earth and the Reconstruction of Imperial Ideology.

Os Cangaceiros
20th November 2011, 07:12
Oh man, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" reminded me of another great one: "Slither" (2006). Great movie.

Pirate Utopian
20th November 2011, 12:56
Killer Klowns from Outer Space

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Искра
20th November 2011, 13:01
My favourite is Alien vs. Ninja

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Rooster
20th November 2011, 13:16
I really don't like them. The concept isn't too bad but they usually always boil down to petty nationalist propaganda a la Battle LA (support our troops!) or Independence Day (go America!). It's a bit like watching Red Dawn except with aliens. Some of the older ones I don't mind, such as Invasion of the Body Snatchers as said above. The original book War of the Worlds, as far as I can remember, was about how war and such is bad and was an allegory for the first world war.

Damnit, I got reminded of how bad Battle LA is. Thanks guys.

Jimmie Higgins
20th November 2011, 13:54
The 70s "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" is great. Carpenter's "They Live" and "The Thing" are fantastic and I'm no doubt in a minority on this, but I thought Spielberg's "War of the Worlds" was one of the best movies he's made in a long time (would have been better had he not pulled his punches and gone for the family being ok in the end, but it's Spielberg and would have marked a huge departure). "Close Encounters" is also fantastic (also a departure since it is sort of "fuck this family life") though not an "invasion" movie.

Hated "Signs" though - IMO beneath Spielberg's moral schmaltz is a really good craftsman and visual storyteller whereas beneath M. Knight's gimmicks is a director worthy of making commercials for Kraft or Tide.

Sasha
20th November 2011, 13:57
Check "the estate" very cool lowbudget English movie.

Pirate Utopian
20th November 2011, 14:02
Plan 9 From Outer Space is alot of fun for it's "so bad it's good" charm. Earth vs. the Flying Saucers and Invaders from Mars are also cool b-movies.

They Live is my favorite alien movie. Cool one-liners, 80s action movie feel but a with somewhat of a leftwing slant.

Do Critters, The Blob and Predator count? It's not really a massive scale invasion but it does have outer space life killing humans. The first movies of their respective series were cool (Predator 2 is more of a guilty pleasure).

piet11111
20th November 2011, 17:14
The thing i suppose could count as an alien invasion movie although its more biowarfare (with scary creatures) then independence day blasting of city's.

Can't wait for a Hd rip from the new the thing movie.

Os Cangaceiros
20th November 2011, 22:41
The 70s "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" is great. Carpenter's "They Live" and "The Thing" are fantastic and I'm no doubt in a minority on this, but I thought Spielberg's "War of the Worlds" was one of the best movies he's made in a long time (would have been better had he not pulled his punches and gone for the family being ok in the end, but it's Spielberg and would have marked a huge departure). "Close Encounters" is also fantastic (also a departure since it is sort of "fuck this family life") though not an "invasion" movie.

Hated "Signs" though - IMO beneath Spielberg's moral schmaltz is a really good craftsman and visual storyteller whereas beneath M. Knight's gimmicks is a director worthy of making commercials for Kraft or Tide.

"Signs" didn't actually make very much sense. Water acts as some kind of corrosive, toxic agent for aliens? Wouldn't the aliens consider this before landing on a planet that's 70 fucking percent water?! They wouldn't even be able to breathe in our atmosphere! It would be like a spaceship full of humans seeing Venus and saying "prime real-estate!"

Anyway. It still entertained me somewhat, in spite of the whole "scarred father" bullshit plotline and everything else.

I think that Spielberg's WotW was good, too, but IIRC the biggest criticism I heard about it was that it was like OHMYFUCKINGGOD ALIENS ARE DESTROYING EVERYTHING! FUUUUUUUUUUUCK! and then five minutes before the end of the movie it's suddenly all good, everyone lives happily ever after.

x359594
21st November 2011, 02:18
I really don't like them. The concept isn't too bad but they usually always boil down to petty nationalist propaganda a la Battle LA (support our troops!) or Independence Day (go America!). It's a bit like watching Red Dawn except with aliens...

That pretty much sums the "all out war" sub-genre up. It's a feel good version of militarism because the stories about humanity versus an entirely inhuman and hostile other. Also, the US armed forces are the ones who come to the planet's rescue, a soft propaganda excuse for US world dominance.

Os Cangaceiros
21st November 2011, 02:36
B: LA was especially bad with the chest-thumping militarism, though. Far more obvious about it than other films of it's genre, and it was totally unnecessary. The silly Marine-worship was made all the more silly because it was a movie about alien colonizers attacking earth.

Jimmie Higgins
21st November 2011, 02:40
I think that Spielberg's WotW was good, too, but IIRC the biggest criticism I heard about it was that it was like OHMYFUCKINGGOD ALIENS ARE DESTROYING EVERYTHING! FUUUUUUUUUUUCK! and then five minutes before the end of the movie it's suddenly all good, everyone lives happily ever after.Yeah, having the family reunite at the end was a total let-down and left a saccrine aftertaste to a movie that was pretty good IMO otherwise. I kinda liked that it subverted a lot of things about regular genre movies where the protagonists were more or less helpless and just refugees trying to survive - it was a ground-eye view of this type of movie rather than being about the brave generals and scientists and the government fixing everything (like independence day). It should have been more of a Joad type thing IMO where the family in the traditional sense is destroyed, but it's Spielberg and his movies worship the nuclear family unfortunately. If he directed the Shining, then Jack Nicholson would have chased after the family through the maze, found them, but then have been reminded of the magical power of nuclear families and they all would have run away from the house together.

brigadista
22nd November 2011, 03:08
the thing =the original -
battlestar galactica [new version]

agree with war of the worlds which would have been better without the usual speilberg shmaltz

The Dark Side of the Moon
22nd November 2011, 03:30
i liked cowboys and aliens, but the genre really catches me. if i am bored or just want to watch a movie in my third hour at school

bcbm
26th November 2011, 15:36
my roommates and i watched independence day a couple weeks ago it was great

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