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magicstick
19th November 2011, 14:43
I met Nox maybe like 2 weeks ago, and since then I've been talking to him and he's turned me from a white nationalist to a leftist. I'm ashamed that I ever believed in that nonsense ideology.
I've spent years of my life brainwashed into believing that. I even broke off contact with a great guy, who happened to be Maori, just because he wasn't white. Now we're dating, and I think giving up that stupid WN ideology is the best thing that's happened to me so far.
I hope this community is accepting of me. I'm here to learn more about communism and find my own identity within it.
Krano
19th November 2011, 16:47
No one is born with hate, someone has to teach it to you. Im glad to hear you broke free from the poisonous venom of fascism. Welcome Comrade :)
Charlie Watt
19th November 2011, 17:16
Hello, welcome :)
TheGodlessUtopian
19th November 2011, 17:23
Welcome to the site.It is a great place to learn and ask questions.Ignore all the sectarian quibbling and you will have a wonderful time here.
Burkland
19th November 2011, 17:29
Yay, an ex-fascist! :thumbup: Well, welcome to RevLeft.
Nox
19th November 2011, 17:34
Welcome :)
thriller
19th November 2011, 17:38
Welcome magicstick. Glad to have ex-facists here. Any particular ideas on leftism in general that you have, or just starting anew?
Smyg
19th November 2011, 17:38
If you did this Nox, you're officially off my to-purge list. :D
Welcome. As TGU said, just ignore the crazies and you'll be fine.
Fopeos
19th November 2011, 18:12
Welcome. Glad you've discovered your humanity.
magicstick
19th November 2011, 18:33
Thanks guys. c:
xub3rn00dlex
19th November 2011, 18:38
Welcome! I hope this forum helps you further your leftist beliefs and helps you expand your scope of politics! I believe we have several ex-fascists here on this forum, and there are plenty of people who were in your shoes who also turned away from fascism. I hope you enjoy your stay, and always feel free to ask questions in the learning forum/PMs!
NewSocialist
19th November 2011, 18:45
congrats and welcome! it's always great to hear of someone leaving behind the idiotic ideology of fear and hatred and embracing human equality. the white nationalism was clearly dragging your life down, as it does with anyone unfortunate enough to fall into it -as you said yourself, the ideology even held you back from having a beauiful relationship with a Maori man. I'm glad you finally got free from that web of misery.
a word of advice though: these days there are a few crypto-fascist groups *pretending* to be communist. I wasnt aware of these people for a very long time until I came across crap from them on youtube and a few websites. as long as you stick with revleft and the many organzations associated with the members here you'll be fine tho.
Zealot
19th November 2011, 19:20
I'm part Maori, nice to see you've broken away from WN. Fascism can never really have popular appeal since it only appeals to a select group whereas Communism is internationalist. I'm wondering, what was it that made you change your ways?
And welcome!
magicstick
19th November 2011, 19:50
congrats and welcome! it's always great to hear of someone leaving behind the idiotic ideology of fear and hatred and embracing human equality. the white nationalism was clearly dragging your life down, as it does with anyone unfortunate enough to fall into it -as you said yourself, the ideology even held you back from having a beauiful relationship with a Maori man. I'm glad you finally got free from that web of misery.
Thanks. I can't believe I was letting some outdated, unscientific lie lead my life an make me miserable like that. Now I couldn't be happier. And if feels good knowing that this ideology isn't really hurtful to anyone who doesn't deserve it.
a word of advice though: these days there are a few crypto-fascist groups *pretending* to be communist. I wasnt aware of these people for a very long time until I came across crap from them on youtube and a few websites. as long as you stick with revleft and the many organzations associated with the members here you'll be fine tho.
Oh... I still have a lot to learn anyway.
magicstick
19th November 2011, 19:55
I'm part Maori, nice to see you've broken away from WN. Fascism can never really have popular appeal since it only appeals to a select group whereas Communism is internationalist. I'm wondering, what was it that made you change your ways?
And welcome!
It was the whole thing with the Maori guy... if WNism was really correct, if race mixing was really wrong, and if race mattered, why would I have felt that way towards him anyway? Ever since then I started questioning WNism, and then I was converted when I learned more about it.
RedRevolution1938
19th November 2011, 20:01
Welcome :) I, too, am an ex-fascist.
Azraella
19th November 2011, 20:02
Welcome. We all have been down the path of damnation before, I'm glad you rejected it. It's great that you value human equality now. :)
Enragé
19th November 2011, 20:03
THE ONLY GOOD FASCIST IS A DE... err.. EX-FASCIST! :D
welcome ^^
quasi-related; The anarchosyndicalist CNT (where Nox's flag comes from) had quite a number of defectors towards the fascists, as well as (ex-)fascists joining them during the spanish civil war.
The stalinists used this to talk of an anarcho-fascist conspiracy ;)
Commissar Rykov
19th November 2011, 20:05
Welcome to the boards I am an ex-Fash as well. Don't worry about it and enjoy your stay.:)
RedRevolution1938
19th November 2011, 20:07
THE ONLY GOOD FASCIST IS A DE... err.. EX-FASCIST! :D
welcome ^^
quasi-related; The anarchosyndicalist CNT (where Nox's flag comes from) had quite a number of defectors towards the fascists, as well as (ex-)fascists joining them during the spanish civil war.
The stalinists used this to talk of an anarcho-fascist conspiracy ;)
Not even dead fascists are good, you know how much nazi zombies piss me off in call of duty? :laugh:
Smyg
19th November 2011, 20:10
RR, that's undead fascists. :lol:
El Louton
19th November 2011, 20:14
Welcome! What made you become a fascist in the first place? -So we can prevent others from becoming fascists.
Welcome to the good side! Enjoy your time!
IndependentCitizen
19th November 2011, 20:31
Sometimes, random shit makes sense when you have someone who's good at twisting words to suit and recruit.
I am glad you've turned a blind eye to fascism and willing to look towards a better light, I hope you stay and contribute to the forum.
The Stalinator
19th November 2011, 22:54
Fuck yeah. You're a comrade of ours now. Welcome to RevLeft.
Zav
19th November 2011, 23:14
Glad to have you with us, Comrade!
So Nox, how exactly did you actually reason with a fascist? We could all really benefit from this secret knowledge.
NewSocialist
19th November 2011, 23:18
It was the whole thing with the Maori guy... if WNism was really correct, if race mixing was really wrong, and if race mattered, why would I have felt that way towards him anyway? Ever since then I started questioning WNism, and then I was converted when I learned more about it.
as a general rule *anything* that stands in the way of free love is oppressive
Nox
19th November 2011, 23:25
Glad to have you with us, Comrade!
So Nox, how exactly did you actually reason with a fascist? We could all really benefit from this secret knowledge.
I pushed the point about how race was just a silly boundary, and by being ethno-nationalists they were dividing the workers and strengthening the rule and oppression of the bourgeoisie.
I also told them about how Hitler was just a puppet to the corporations/bourgeoisie and left a huge racial rift in the workers that continues to affect us to this day. He served them well.
ZeroNowhere
19th November 2011, 23:45
But were you convinced by the real Nox?
magicstick
20th November 2011, 00:06
Welcome! What made you become a fascist in the first place? -So we can prevent others from becoming fascists.
Welcome to the good side! Enjoy your time!
Well, I got into the white nationalism thing because back then, no non-whites were very important in my life, so I didn't see anything that really hurt my personal life about it, and from then, I guess the ignorance slowly built up. It's hard to describe.
as a general rule *anything* that stands in the way of free love is oppressive
I see that now. I guess it didn't really matter to me when I wasn't in love with someone of another race, but now that I am, I see exactly how oppressive it is.
They'd rather have us dead then have us be together. Which is pretty terrible.
But were you convinced by the real Nox?
Haha, yeah. I know about the whole thing where people were impersonating a few users.
NewSocialist
20th November 2011, 01:56
I see that now. I guess it didn't really matter to me when I wasn't in love with someone of another race, but now that I am, I see exactly how oppressive it is.
They'd rather have us dead then have us be together. Which is pretty terrible.
terrible to say the least! its great you were able to see thru the lies eventually tho. way too many people never do.
ZeroNowhere
20th November 2011, 02:19
Haha, yeah. I know about the whole thing where people were impersonating a few users.
No, I mean in contrast to the unreal Nox.
A handy illustration:
http://i.imgur.com/KagcK.jpg
Broletariat
20th November 2011, 02:21
Goddammit ZeroNowhere why must you be so funny.
seventeethdecember2016
20th November 2011, 04:59
I met Nox maybe like 2 weeks ago, and since then I've been talking to him and he's turned me from a white nationalist to a leftist. I'm ashamed that I ever believed in that nonsense ideology.
Nice that your on our team now.
Marxaveli
20th November 2011, 05:06
Good to see you break from the dark side. Welcome to the board.
magicstick
20th November 2011, 15:09
terrible to say the least! its great you were able to see thru the lies eventually tho. way too many people never do.
Yeah. I can't believe I fell for the "Oh, we're peaceful, we totally don't wanna kill anyone!" aspect, yet when I personally got to know some white nationalists, that's practically ALL they could talk about. Killing black people, mixed people, "race traitors", etc...
Don't think of yourself as stupid for following Fascism. You were merely influenced by it, and it can be quite influential. I was influenced by American Nationalism and Propaganda, and I thought it was my duty to protect and spread the influence of my country. Little did I know that I was just a pawn for a greater authority, and that greater authority wishes to enslave the world. I still to this day don't believe my actions were stupid, as I was only influenced by the idea. I have created my own ideologies now(which are Marxist/Stalinist), and I will stubbornly hold onto them for the rest of my life.
I don't really think I'm stupid, I'm just ashamed that I could have lived the rest of my life like that... I could have missed out on SO much because of it. I could have missed out on love, friends, and a bunch of other things, just because I was influenced by it.
NewSocialist
21st November 2011, 06:18
Yeah. I can't believe I fell for the "Oh, we're peaceful, we totally don't wanna kill anyone!" aspect, yet when I personally got to know some white nationalists, that's practically ALL they could talk about. Killing black people, mixed people, "race traitors", etc...
they claim not to want to kill anyone in order to deflect justifiable outrage at there politics. if you ever read thru there websites you quickly find that's all bullshit. the theorists behind white nationalism and fascism have always remained total imperialists -just see how they go on about “reclaiming“ south africa and what not- who won't stop until the whole world is heterosexual and white. women are seen as nothing more than “aryan“ baby machines. the kids and workers who get involved in these sickening politics are just frustrated by many other things -like the economy, sexual frustration arising from heterosexual normitivity and so on and so forth- and they are brainwashes into thinking that the sole source of there problems are minorities not the system. so they fanatsize about “cleansing“ there “aryan“ nations cause they think it will solve all there problems. its our task as communists to try to prevent children and workers from being taken in by this ideology because once they are in its *very* difficult for many of them to break out the way you did.
the Left™
21st November 2011, 06:21
Yay :D
Yazman
22nd November 2011, 14:10
Welcome to Revleft! If you have any problems or issues while here, or any questions about the boards, please ask away either in here or to me via PM!
Ex-fascists always interest me, was there any point in particular that made you think "huh... maybe I was wrong" about your views or was it just a combination of things?
OHumanista
26th November 2011, 20:44
I know this is late, but I was busy the last few days and couldn't say this in time (busy means I was playing Skyrim)
THIS IS AWESOME!:D I am so glad for you, welcome aboard and have a free hug
Luc
26th November 2011, 21:29
Ah love trumping racism, I know the feeling; every girl that I have/have had a crush on is of another race:wub: and it is what makes me a rabid anti-fascist (too rabid sometimes...) I hope you two have a great time together!:)
oh I almost forgot: Welcome to RevLeft!:lol:
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