No kissing in Public!

[mentalbunny]

I don't know the whole story but apparently Brown wants it to be illegal for under 16 year olds to have any sexual contact and apparently kissing in public if you're under 16 is agains the law or soon will be, and also the no-sex-under-16 law is written in such a way that I am a sex offender for having kissed my ex boyf who's 15.

Does anyone know anymore about this?

[Saint-Just]

I have not heard anything about that. It sounds unlikely, maybe it is just a personal opinion of Brown.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

No sorry but it sounds like typical UK shit, glad im out of that country for good now.

Hay H.R. move to Cyprus with me!! then we can kiss in public :D

[BuyOurEverything]

Well the obvious solution to this is a quick execution of all conservatives in the UK.

[Saint-Just]

I don't believe it really, it seems very odd. Gordon Brown is not particularly Conservative, he is the catalyst behind the UK's overseas aid. More left-wing than Tony Blair is, more of a Social Democrat.

Having said that he has created some rather restrictive laws before on young people, I believe there was one prohibiting young people standing on street corners in large groups before.

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

lol, thats just funny (unless your under 16-in which case i laugh at u :P)

[mentalbunny]

I'm 17 so I have no problems! I heard about the no kising in public law on Le Monde, I was looking for the prince charles rumour at the time!

[Saint-Just]

I am 17. Although I have kissed in public before,* I would not do so now.

(*EDIT)

I looked for it on British news but could not find it. If you found it on Le Monde it must be true.

[Exploited Class]

Mentalbunny are you sure it is the UK? Since you got it from Le Monde, french, did you mistranslate possibly? Because yesterday the Moscow Mayor in Russia is considering posing a public ban on kissing.

Kissing Link Moscow (http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2003/11/09/kissing/)

And I haven't found anything relating to the UK doing this.

BBC report on ban in Moscow (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3252315.stm)

Sunday Times with the same story (http://www.sundaytimes.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,7034,7821695%255E1702,00.html)

[Funky Monk]

Think it would be a law that is generally disregarded. Would a club count as public?

Still a ban might restrain me from doing things i regret when i remember.

[Soul Rebel]

good to see how politicans are spending their time. rather than concerning themselves, with oh i dont know, hunger, they are concerned about people kissing. gimmie a fucking break.

seriously, if this happens i am hoping everyone protests by making out and banging it out everywhere, at all times. it would be merry, gays and straights coming together to get it on to protest....

[Borincano]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2003, 06:56 PM
good to see how politicans are spending their time. rather than concerning themselves, with oh i dont know, hunger, they are concerned about people kissing. gimmie a fucking break.

seriously, if this happens i am hoping everyone protests by making out and banging it out everywhere, at all times. it would be merry, gays and straights coming together to get it on to protest....
Now you're my kind of person. That's exactly what people should do, because such laws are ridiculous. I understand that people shouldn't be allowed to have sex in daylight in a park infront of the kiddyswings, but a simple kiss? Please! Kids see that shit everyday on TV and/or at home and kissing doesn't have to be malicious or sexual, that's why kids play kiss all the time.

[Al Creed]

Did I read that right?

Is it just me, or is this proposed "law" sound like something out of a Senior Public or a Junior High or a Middle School?

What next? Will it? become illegal to wear hats indoors, and to leave work at lunch without a note from your boss?

[Kapitan Andrey]

Men!? WTF...I didn't heard that...anyway...this "law" must be acessed by Duma!
This stupid "law" won't pass!

[Jesus Christ]

they are now trying to ban public displays of affection in Moscow

http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/apmetho...d=D7UN80N01.xml (http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/apmethods/apstory?urlfeed=D7UN80N01.xml)

[mentalbunny]

EC, it was definitely "grande bretagne".

[Danton]

if this happens i am hoping everyone protests by making out and banging it out everywhere, at all times

Here here!

[monkeydust]

Is Britian the only place where you can't buy porn until your 18 but can have sex and even gay sex at 16?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Yes it is, which I think is perfectly silly.

[Saint-Just]

I would not watch porn but I would have sex, and that is not only at 16-18 but as an adult. I find porn reprehensible, but not sex. Is that silly? For similar reasons the government makes porn illegal until you are 18 but sex legal at 16.

[Yazman]

Under 16s kissing and having sex?

WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO?

[FistFullOfSteel]

its going to hell.......

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Sooo... I can actually do the things portrayed in pornography with real people, but I can't look at pieces of paper with images of the things I can do? what's the reasoning behind that?
What is so reprehensible about porn anyways? (Apart from the fact that some porn does not exactly reflect reality? but I realise that.)

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2003, 10:09 PM
I don't know the whole story but apparently Brown wants it to be illegal for under 16 year olds to have any sexual contact and apparently kissing in public if you're under 16 is agains the law or soon will be, and also the no-sex-under-16 law is written in such a way that I am a sex offender for having kissed my ex boyf who's 15.

Does anyone know anymore about this?
Has one of the partners to be 16 or do both have to be 16. Since I am 16 and my gf 14 and thank god me don't live in the uk(no/offense)

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 13 2003, 11:56 AM
I would not watch porn but I would have sex, and that is not only at 16-18 but as an adult. I find porn reprehensible, but not sex. Is that silly? For similar reasons the government makes porn illegal until you are 18 but sex legal at 16.
I whole heartedly agree CM.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 02:21 PM
Sooo... I can actually do the things portrayed in pornography with real people, but I can't look at pieces of paper with images of the things I can do? what's the reasoning behind that?
What is so reprehensible about porn anyways? (Apart from the fact that some porn does not exactly reflect reality? but I realise that.)
Concidering the commercial influances and the large impact of sexual manipulation on societiy, I wouldn't mind a ban on pornography although it would never work. It would be prohibition all over again.

"What is so reprehensible about porn anyways?"

Let me think...it manipulates sexual impulses to induce a desired response. In many instances it is equatable to sexual programing. It takes the distorted perception of sexuality by one person or group (esp. in capitalism) and pushes it on others.
The making of porn often encures the expliotation and degradation of many people and to a certain extent, injures society.
Now for the obviouslly reprehensible aspect, child porn. Need I say more?

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 13 2003, 06:30 PM
Has one of the partners to be 16 or do both have to be 16. Since I am 16 and my gf 14 and thank god me don't live in the uk(no/offense)
It is not too bad, it would only mean you could not kiss in public. I don't kiss in public and I am 17 and have had girlfriends a few years older than me.

Well said 313C7 iVi4RX. Pornography is something women find particularly reprehensible, how can we expect sexual equality without getting rid of such things.

Yazman and El Marko, I agree with you

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Originally posted by 313C7 [email protected] 13 2003, 01:28 PM
Concidering the commercial influances and the large impact of sexual manipulation on societiy, I wouldn't mind a ban on pornography although it would never work. It would be prohibition all over again.

"What is so reprehensible about porn anyways?"

Let me think...it manipulates sexual impulses to induce a desired response. In many instances it is equatable to sexual programing. It takes the distorted perception of sexuality by one person or group (esp. in capitalism) and pushes it on others.
The making of porn often encures the expliotation and degradation of many people and to a certain extent, injures society.
Now for the obviouslly reprehensible aspect, child porn. Need I say more?
I guess an important question would be what the effect of pornography is on people. Can it serve a positive sexual release? If so, how are people to get their release without it. Concern for the well-being of children and the esteem of women in society are of course justifiable.

Evidence does not suggest that porn in itself causes problems such as sexual assault. Look at Japan. The Japanese are recognized as the producers of the most graphic, often violent pornography in the world. Yet sexual assault and rape are infrequent in Japan. There are other questions that need to be considered.

[Saint-Just]

Look at Japan. The Japanese are recognized as the producers of the most graphic, often violent pornography in the world. Yet sexual assault and rape are infrequent in Japan. There are other questions that need to be considered.

I think that is more of a cultural issue. The Japanese are relatively law abiding, but their tastes for certain things such as pornography tend to be rather odd, or more extreme than in the west. However, in Japan it is illegal to depict pubic hair in pornography. However, I suspect there is an underground market that offers pornography with pubic hair in it.

[Exploited Class]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 13 2003, 01:49 PM
However, in Japan it is illegal to depict pubic hair in pornography. However, I suspect there is an underground market that offers pornography with pubic hair in it.
The internet? I am sure they could use the internet for the "underground" pornography.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

No pubic hair in pornos?
That's a good one.
:lol:
That's just insane!

This law, by the way, is shit. What are they gonna do, ask for IDs before you can kiss someone?

[Saint-Just]

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Chairman [email protected] 13 2003, 01:49 PM
However, in Japan it is illegal to depict pubic hair in pornography. However, I suspect there is an underground market that offers pornography with pubic hair in it.
The internet? I am sure they could use the internet for the "underground" pornography. [/b]
Yes, it would be easy using the internet. There is more to it than that but I would prefer not to talk about pornography.


That&#39;s just insane&#33;

This law, by the way, is shit. What are they gonna do, ask for IDs before you can kiss someone?

I think it would be abided to some extent. You don&#39;t see many under 16s kissing in this country at least because it does seem to young here.

[dopediana]

harriet, you&#39;re a wicked girl. fortunately, my boyf-to-be is 20. unfortunately, he lives an hour away.

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 13 2003, 02:49 PM

Look at Japan. The Japanese are recognized as the producers of the most graphic, often violent pornography in the world. Yet sexual assault and rape are infrequent in Japan. There are other questions that need to be considered.

I think that is more of a cultural issue. The Japanese are relatively law abiding, but their tastes for certain things such as pornography tend to be rather odd, or more extreme than in the west.
I think you are right about that. My main point is that there are greater issues to deal with in combating sexism and misogyny than banning pornography.

I feel for the women (and men) disturbed/disgusted/offended by pornography. I do not think it should be remotely mainstream, but I do not believe in banning it. If we advance the consciousness and our society loses its taste for porn, that would make me very happy.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 13 2003, 09:30 PM
I don&#39;t kiss in public and I am 17 and have had girlfriends a few years older than me.


Well it varies from person to person bout the subject. I only kiss in public if my gf wants to do it too. But if you can&#39;t out your emotion for each other anymore, where is the world going to. For you know it, it won&#39;t be allowed anymore to show your feelings to anybody anymore ...

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Let me think...it manipulates sexual impulses to induce a desired response.

The desired response, for the viewer, being arousal. That&#39;s what porn is meant to do&#33;


In many instances it is equatable to sexual programing.

What is that supposed to mean? If I hear of a particular type of porn and like the sound of it, I&#39;ll look at it.
If it doesn&#39;t appeal, I don&#39;t look at it. Nobody can force you to look at anything unless they are holding your eyelids open.


It takes the distorted perception of sexuality by one person or group (esp. in capitalism) and pushes it on others.

How?


The making of porn often encures the expliotation and degradation of many people and to a certain extent, injures society.

Injures society? in what way? will looking at porn send them all to hell, perhaps? :angry:


Now for the obviouslly reprehensible aspect, child porn. Need I say more?

That&#39;s abuse. children are coerced into doing those sorts of things due to the &#39;authority&#39; of an adult who is bigger and stronger than them.
And just because I support porn featuring consenting adults doesn&#39;t mean I support child porn, although nice try.

I expect drawings and stories to replace photos in communist society, because there&#39;d be no point in starring in porn and people have acitve imaginations.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 02:05 PM
Under 16s kissing and having sex?

WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO?
It is up to the people to decide, what to do. If they want to have sex, let them ;)