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safeduck
16th November 2011, 22:41
Hi, I just wanted to know whats your take on the "Che Guevara commited mass murder" story? I find this an insult as he is one of my idols... but what do you think about it?

ComradeGrant
17th November 2011, 04:17
I think it's generally accepted here that the "victims" of Che Guevara were actually war criminals that were guilty of some pretty horrendous stuff (murdering peasants who they suspected of hiding the guerrillas, all sorts of horrendous rape stuff) and actually had some form of trial.

Belleraphone
17th November 2011, 05:21
If Che is a mass murderer, then Washington is genocidal for all the British soldiers he killed.

Art Vandelay
17th November 2011, 07:46
Maybe its just me but I find it brutal, even as an anarchist, that such questions need to be asked on a leftist forum. I could just be a condescending twit but I would think anyone acquainted enough with leftist politics to join this forum should know the truth about Che. Thus the frequency of posts like this make me want to scream troll.

Zealot
17th November 2011, 15:06
It's a lame ass story and it's not even half believable, not even for the bourgeoisie. Actually I'm hella surprised George Washington isn't considered an extremist republican terrorist in Britain.

Ocean Seal
17th November 2011, 15:11
It's a lame ass story and it's not even half believable, not even for the bourgeoisie. Actually I'm hella surprised George Washington isn't considered an extremist republican terrorist in Britain.
Nope, no one anywhere in the world is allowed to criticize America's original slave owning Presidents.

ClearlyChrist
17th November 2011, 15:18
If Che is a mass murderer, then Washington is genocidal for all the British soldiers he killed.

I Don't Want To Think About What That'd Make George W. Bush..

Tim Finnegan
18th November 2011, 14:17
Actually I'm hella surprised George Washington isn't considered an extremist republican terrorist in Britain.
The assumption here would seem to be that the British state c.1776 is widely accepted as being meaningfully popular, which I don't believe was true either at the time or since. Killing the soldiers of a king that nobody liked or wanted is pretty much considered "fair game" even here.

El Louton
18th November 2011, 15:01
Not true.

The CPSU Chairman
18th November 2011, 20:34
"I have yet to find a single credible source pointing to a case where Che executed 'an innocent'. Those persons executed by Guevara or on his orders were condemned for the usual crimes punishable by death at times of war or in its aftermath: desertion, treason or crimes such as rape, torture or murder. I should add that my research spanned five years, and included anti-Castro Cubans among the Cuban-American exile community in Miami and elsewhere."

— Jon Lee Anderson, author of Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life, PBS forum [102]