Opposing Ron Paul

[Stew312856]

Creepily enough, Ron Paul is the Nader of the Right these days, regardless of his white supremacism.

Is it worthwhile to combat him or allow him to flounder the GOP if he doesn't get the nomination and then becomes a third-party candidate, splitting the vote like Nader did?

[Belleraphone]

He has no chance. It's a waste of effort for us to go out and fight Ron Paul/David Duke. They're virtually irrelevant and have very little political capital.

Also, by splitting the vote, do you mean that Nader caused Bush to win in 2000, or do you mean just taking away some votes from the Democrats? If it's the former, that's really not true. The 2000 election was probably a dishonest one.

[NewLeft]

By "opposing" Ron Paul, you're supporting him. The best thing you can do is to ignore him and to not give the Paulites any attention, your time or energy whatsoever.

[Grigori]

We all should anonymously promote the hell out of Paul. His views are so idiotic that if he even wins one state he will completely discredit the republican party's legitimacy for a millennium.

[Stew312856]

Also, by splitting the vote, do you mean that Nader caused Bush to win in 2000, or do you mean just taking away some votes from the Democrats? If it's the former, that's really not true. The 2000 election was probably a dishonest one.

From my understanding on the issue of the Florida vote, the election would have swung to Gore if he had Nader's votes. This is just a hypothesis floated in the media, but I myself feel he did take Democratic voters away from Gore (though Gore's alienation of the entire Clinton cabinet and appointment of war hawk Lieberman wasn't exactly a genius move either).

[Belleraphone]

That's what I thought too, but remember Bush's brother was the Governor of Florida. I think Farenhiet 9/11 talked about that, a lot of people wanted an open recount but it was refused. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but elections are rigged all the time.

[Stew312856]

I don't consider the veracity of Michael Moore's facts genuine, other, much better scholarship has made better and deeper revelations than his rather awful style of 'entertainment-doc'. I agree with his ideas but, as a film scholar and documentary film maker, his methods are considered shabby and cheap in academia. NO END IN SIGHT was much better than F 9/11 and INSIDE JOB, made by the same director of NEIS, was light years beyond CAPITALISM A LOVE STORY (though he did a great thing in boosting Elizabeth Warren into popular consciousness, it may be the reason she wins this election).

[Belleraphone]

Yeah, I know MM isn't particularly insightful, but he just offered some basic facts. Facts which I think would imply a rigged election.

[Zealot]

Leave Ron Alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let him get president so he can implement his godawful ideas, let him end the fed, he'll leave a shit stain worse than Bush, spelling the end of America.

[Triple A]

Ron paul serious bussiness