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provocateur
10th November 2003, 17:16
(64) Jesus said, "A man had received visitors. And when he had prepared the dinner, he sent his servant to invite the guests.
He went to the first one and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said, 'I have claims against some merchants. They are coming to me this evening. I must go and give them my orders. I ask to be excused from the dinner.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master has invited you.' He said to him, 'I have just bought a house and am required for the day. I shall not have any spare time.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said to him, 'My friend is going to get married, and I am to prepare the banquet. I shall not be able to come. I ask to be excused from the dinner.'
He went to another and said to him, 'My master invites you.' He said to him, 'I have just bought a farm, and I am on my way to collect the rent. I shall not be able to come. I ask to be excused.'
The servant returned and said to his master, 'Those whom you invited to the dinner have asked to be excused.' The master said to his servant, 'Go outside to the streets and bring back those whom you happen to meet, so that they may dine.' Businessmen and merchants will not enter the places of my father."

(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to his disciples, "These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom."
They said to him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?"
Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter the kingdom."

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html

Rastafari
10th November 2003, 17:53
doesn't the big man point his finger at some kid and kill him in St. Thomas?

provocateur
10th November 2003, 17:58
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2003, 06:53 PM
doesn't the big man point his finger at some kid and kill him in St. Thomas?
No, I've just finished reading it in full and no I haven't come across that at all.

canikickit
10th November 2003, 18:03
This isn't literature. This is antiquated nonsense.

provocateur
12th November 2003, 15:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2003, 07:03 PM
This isn't literature. This is antiquated nonsense.




Joseph Campbell does not agree with you.

canikickit
12th November 2003, 15:29
I've never heard of Joseph Campbell.

Is this (http://www.jcf.org/about_jc.php)him?

Regardless, I don't really care whether or not he agrees with me.

What is the relevance of these quotes you have provided? What is the connection between them all?

From the link:

"These are the secret sayings which the living Jesus spoke and which Didymos Judas Thomas wrote down."

So they're just a bunch of quotes which have been attributed to some guy who was supposed to be "great" and died many, many years ago?

I'd imagine Joe Campbell himself had more relevant things to say.

provocateur
13th November 2003, 22:50
Yeah that is Joseph Campbell. He inspired George Lucas to make the Star Wars series.

canikickit
13th November 2003, 22:52
Why do you like those quotes attributed to Jesus?

Umoja
14th November 2003, 01:06
They don't paint Jesus as God, they paint him as a person who believes some "higher state" can be reached by all people. It's an interesting perspective from the traditonal Gospels, because unlike most of the other Nag Hammadi writtings this one could have actually been written by the disciple it was attributed too, and shows a lot about the Supression the Church could have used against certain ideas.