Perfect good looking people

[Arlekino]

I just come back from Lithuania and went to Latvia. Strange thoughts in the banks or in any offices working kind of perfect looking people. They are look like models, no body fat, ladies long nails and of course high heals shoes. I felt real strange in my opinion real people don't look like that.

[hatzel]

And what exactly are we going to learn from this experience?

[Arlekino]

Nothing is to learn actually. The problem I see so society split ugly people, and why why we need this model looking crap.

[RGacky3]

Are you complaining that some people look good? And some of them work in banks??? Real people DO look like that, and some other real people look ugly, this belongs in chit chat if it belongs anywhere.

[Arlekino]

Are you complaining that some people look good? And some of them work in banks??? Real people DO look like that, and some other real people look ugly, this belongs in chit chat if it belongs anywhere.

I am not complaining but is real people look like that. Another thoughts the ladies future mothers so what will happening if she little put weigh and she will be worry just to keep job.

Well why for costumers so important how people look like and is not real real people don't look like that.

[Tablo]

I am not complaining but is real people look like that. Another thoughts the ladies future mothers so what will happening if she little put weigh and she will be worry just to keep job.

Well why for costumers so important how people look like and is not real real people don't look like that.
So you are complaining about job discrimination based on looks? I agree with you that that is messed up. No one should be worried about physical appearance when keeping a job.

[Rooster]

I felt real strange in my opinion real people don't look like that.

They obviously do because you've seen them. Unless you don't think they're real. Unless.... robots? :huh:

[RGacky3]

Are you sure its job discrimination? Or maybe people just like to look good?

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

Nothing wrong with looking fresh.

[RED DAVE]

I had an experience like that when I worked for a major law firm. After a day or so, I realized that all the secretaries and other female employees were very good-looking. I mean, it was like working in a model agency.

It dawned on me after awhile that they had been hired on the basis of their looks.

RED DAVE

[tir1944]

How do like Latvia BTW? What's it like?

[Sputnik_1]

good or bad looking nowadays doesn't even mean anything anymore. it's based mainly on what we've been told by mass media.
i don't like "generally" dividing people in bad or good looking, it kinda sounds brainwashed. Obviously i do find people more or less attractive to me, personally. I get your point tho, or at least i think so... what you're trying to say is that good looking people are somehow privileged? well yeah, happens unfortunately, just look at berlusconi's *****es in power. (job in politics for a blow job) well, at least the bastard is having hard times lately.

[Zealot]

I think what he's trying to say is that the banks have purposefully been brushing aside the not-so-good looking people in favour of the good looking.

But what did you expect comrade, ugly people would cut into their profits!

[Iron Felix]

It is a well known fact that Latvians are all ugly, thus these good-looking people are aliens.

[hatzel]

When I was in Latvia I didn't notice so drastic a difference between those serving and those being served...

[Skooma Addict]

Discrimination based on looks is probably the most common form of discrimination. Luckily most people can change their appearance to a reasonable extent.

[Arlekino]

luck of my English I have difficult to explain. My issues real people don't' look like robots. Why why we need robots. I remember in Soviet Union times to take a job it was never problem how people look like. Oh yes capitalist will tell to us is costumer services so staff has to look so nice but is that real matter for customers how staff look like.
Well with my emotions is not real and is all false looking people.

[eyeheartlenin]

I just come back from Lithuania and went to Latvia. Strange thoughts in the banks or in any offices working kind of perfect looking people. They are look like models, no body fat, ladies long nails and of course high heals shoes. I felt real strange in my opinion real people don't look like that.

(A non-PC thought) I was in Iceland for fourteen months. You should see the people there! They really are astonishingly good-looking, which makes up, to some extent, for the weather, the long winter nights, the stunted trees, and the everlasting wind (with its grit) that sweeps across the south-western peninsula. I would love to go back!

[RGacky3]

good or bad looking nowadays doesn't even mean anything anymore. it's based mainly on what we've been told by mass media.
i don't like "generally" dividing people in bad or good looking, it kinda sounds brainwashed.

I'm pretty sure your penis (or vagina) does the dividing for you.

[promethean]

On a slightly off-topic, but related note, From The Society of the Spectacle chapter 2:


Media stars are spectacular representations of living human beings, distilling the essence of the spectacle's banality into images of possible roles. Stardom is a diversification in the semblance of life the object of an identification with mere appearance which is intended to compensate for the crumbling of directly experienced diversifications of productive activity. Celebrities figure various styles of life and various views of society which anyone is supposedly free to embrace and pursue in
a global manner. Themselves incarnations of the inaccessible results of social labor, they mimic byproducts of that labor, and project these above labor so that they appear as its goal. The byproducts in question are power and leisure the power to decide and the leisure to consume which are the alpha and the omega of a process that is never questioned. In the former case, government power assumes the personified form of the pseudostar; in the second, stars of consumption canvas for
votes as pseudopower over life lived. But, just as none of these celestial activities are truly global, neither do they offer any real choices.

[Tenka]

Strange thoughts in the banks or in any offices working kind of perfect looking people. They are look like models, no body fat, ladies long nails and of course high heals shoes. I felt real strange in my opinion real people don't look like that. They do, and they're not exactly "perfect-looking", either, considering the subjectivity of such a judgment.
Related:
I noticed that on Univision (popular Spanish-language TV station in the U.S.), basically every (youngish) female that appears has straight, white teeth. I personally find straight, white teeth to be extremely unattractive, even disgusting; but popular, mostly media-manufactured opinion holds the opposite view of such an abominable characteristic, and it's plain that I'm seeing some results of job discrimination based on looks. It's everywhere.

[RGacky3]

I personally find straight, white teeth to be extremely unattractive, even disgusting; but popular, mostly media-manufactured opinion holds the opposite view of such an abominable characteristic

Except most people find white teeth that are straight attractive.

[Smyg]

I really don't see the problem with dental health... ?

[Zav]

I find the 'flawlessness' of 'ideal' people, to be quite boring.

[Hiero]

Check out Pierre Bourdieu's book Distinction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Distinction). Somewhere around page 186 from memory Bourdieu talks about the body. The body is a hard thing to conceptualise in social theory because it is assumed natural. But the body is a repertoire of ones position in the social division. The body is the embodiement of social division and signifier for that position.

You call it good looking, which is a subjective judgement, but you observed real paterns of displaying self for a specific class fraction. You will find it everywhere within group identity. For instance it is no accident or coincidence alot of bikies grow beards and get fat, hipsters are usually ridicilously skinny or all PE teachers are fit. It is part of a classed logic that we normally call lifestyles and is a point which you can analysis ones entire relationship with the whole world.

[RGacky3]

For instance it is no accident or coincidence alot of bikies grow beards and get fat, hipsters are usually ridicilously skinny or all PE teachers are fit. It is part of a classed logic that we normally call lifestyles and is a point which you can analysis ones entire relationship with the whole world.

I don't konw if I buy that 100%, for example bikers live a pretty damn unhealthy lifestyle, whereas PE teachers live a pretty healthy lifestyle and probably excercise a lot.

But in a sense I do buy it to a degree, for example the societal pressure for women to be thin NOW whereas a while ago more shapes was desired, but its a little more complicated, for example a while back you had a machismo working class aesthetic, which was the sexy thing for men, but that was back when the working class was relatively well off and it entailed physical strength, whereas now the bourgeious aesthetic is considered more sexy generally, when the working class has been beaten back significantly and when its rich people that have the time to go to the gym, however as time goes on it might change.

[Tenka]

I really don't see the problem with dental health... ?
Most healthy teeth are not naturally perfectly aligned and bleach-white, which is more of a pointless aesthetic thing than an indicator of good dental health. Good dental health is having all of your teeth and not having cavities in them, and having healthy gums to hold them in place.

[RGacky3]

Most teeth are not naturally perfectly aligned and blindingly white. I don't for a second believe this is healthy.

Most people arn't totally healthy ...

[Tenka]

Most people arn't totally healthy ...
I know, I sort of made that post before thinking about it and edit'd. Sorry.:blushing: It gets my point across now, I hope.

[Hiero]

I don't konw if I buy that 100%, for example bikers live a pretty damn unhealthy lifestyle, whereas PE teachers live a pretty healthy lifestyle and probably excercise a lot.

But in a sense I do buy it to a degree, for example the societal pressure for women to be thin NOW whereas a while ago more shapes was desired, but its a little more complicated, for example a while back you had a machismo working class aesthetic, which was the sexy thing for men, but that was back when the working class was relatively well off and it entailed physical strength, whereas now the bourgeious aesthetic is considered more sexy generally, when the working class has been beaten back significantly and when its rich people that have the time to go to the gym, however as time goes on it might change.

You actually agree with me in the first sentance and disagreed with me in the second.

Find the book and have a read. It deals with the complexities of "lifestyles". Bikies have an unhealthy lifestyle it is because their whole habitus is unhealthy. Could you imagine a bike stop taking speed, cutting down alcohol and eating salad and fruit? They would cease to be a bikie and if a PE teacher did the opposite they would cease to be PE a teacher.

What Bourdieu argues is that choice reflect overal relationship with the world. So some people eat heavy and drink heavy, and they have a rough relationship with the world. So for instance miners eat large meals, drink strong beers and drive big cars here in Australia. Compared to say a young professional inner city urbanite. They may gym more, eat leaner meats (chicken breast without skin) drive a smaller car, eat more fruits and vegtables. These are generative schemas, sets of behaviours applied to various fields.

Also here in my city working people can afford gym membership. It is often working class males and females who had the fittest bodies, followed by young professionals who are usually ridicilious skinny or fit from the gym. In Newcastle, Australia it is not strange to see a working class guy on $80 000-$150 00, due to the mining boom and the building boom. And middle class professionals can be earning 60-80 000.

[Charlie Watt]

There's something I find quite unnerving about what I would term the excessively beautiful. Obviously I'm not averse to attractive people, but there are people out there that spend so much time achieving what they consider to be perfection that they render themselves staggeringly ugly at the same time. The same people tend to be utterly vapid in terms of personality.

With regards to workplace discrimination, I've seen it first hand in this country, so I don't see why it wouldn't take place elsewhere.

[Marcist]

Ugly people can be like desert flowers, you never know when they will bloom.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I sometimes wonder what would happen if everyone had the opportunity to attain what they felt was the "perfect" look for themselves.

I reckon some people would take things so far as to no longer look human, most people would look like they just stepped out of a magazine (appropriate to their age/(sub)culture/interests/whatever), plus some conservative types who would remain with what the genetic and developmental dice rolled for them, and finally those whimsically perverse individuals who make themselves look like Quasimodo or something just to buck the trend.