Israel cancer vaccine breakthrough

[Lanky Wanker]

http://unitedwithisrael.org/israel-develops-cancer-vaccine/

6 years is better than never I guess. :cool:

[freepalestine]

^yeh makes a change for the terrorist state from spreading cancers.
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also
Cuba launches world's first vaccine against lung cancer
English.news.cn 2011-09-07 19:48:33
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/health/2011-09/07/c_131111574.htm

[Anarchrusty]

Awesome that you have the guts to spread the truth. What's the worth of this positive news when millions of Gazans are dying annually from the cancer that Israel causes from their Ivory Tower?
In other news, Pol Pot may have commited genocide, at least he got rid off intellectuals.

[Lanky Wanker]

I'm not too up to date on secret diseases being spread by the government, so go easy on me fellas.

[freepalestine]

I'm not too up to date on secret diseases being spread by the government, so go easy on me fellas.

secret diseases .?? isreal govt spread secret diseases?(you meant assassinations??)

apart from that i also meant cancer and other diseases in lebanon and gaza due to chemical weapons,and also high cancer rates related to the dimona nuclear plant in southern wb/beersheba.
zionists must be proud of their acheivements.;)

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Can we get a good source for this that isn't from what looks like a lunatic nationalist website? It sounds like a load nonsense when it ends with "Israel is a blessing, etc".

[Nox]

Bullshit.

[The Vegan Marxist]

:rolleyes:

The protective cognition (http://conium.org/~maccoun/LP_Kahan2010.pdf) being flooded around in this thread is just as amusing as it is annoying. Comments like "bullshit" and "lunatic nationalist website" doesn't apply scientific reasoning, and rather political dogma.

Yes, this was discovered by a group of scientists from a country who's known for its apartheid-esque actions against Palestinians. BUT - and here's where it gets good - it was discovered by a group of scientists, regardless of what country they were born in.

This "if socialists don't discover it, it can't be true" mindset is what's bullshit, not the scientific discoveries. The vast majority of scientific discoveries come from scientists who preside in bourgeois countries. Yet we're all perfectly rational enough not to negate the science and scientists just because we're in opposition to whatever country it was discovered in.

So please, let's keep the anti-Zionist talk in the political threads. Not the science threads!

[Zealot]

Cool, now we can cure cancer with Palestinian blood.

And that website was a good fucking laugh, I almost want to dismiss the article because of how lame their nationalist piece of trash site was.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

:rolleyes:

The protective cognition (http://conium.org/%7Emaccoun/LP_Kahan2010.pdf) being flooded around in this thread is just as amusing as it is annoying. Comments like "bullshit" and "lunatic nationalist website" doesn't apply scientific reasoning, and rather political dogma.

Yes, this was discovered by a group of scientists from a country who's known for its apartheid-esque actions against Palestinians. BUT - and here's where it gets good - it was discovered by a group of scientists, regardless of what country they were born in.

This "if socialists don't discover it, it can't be true" mindset is what's bullshit, not the scientific discoveries. The vast majority of scientific discoveries come from scientists who preside in bourgeois countries. Yet we're all perfectly rational enough not to negate the science and scientists just because we're in opposition to whatever country it was discovered in.

So please, let's keep the anti-Zionist talk in the political threads. Not the science threads!

What the fuck are you talking about? The website in question is a lunatic nationalist website. I was asking for a better source for this information. The website in question is political and smells of being untrustworthy, thus a better reliable source to confirm the information would be nice.

What is wrong with this? So if someone links to a conspiracy nut making unsubstantiated claims, is it wrong to ask for corroborating sources for the claims? It isn't that this information comes from Israel - it's that it's being reported by a lunatic nationalist website. I'm sure there's sources for information from Israel that aren't.

Now stop assuming nonsense.

[kahimikarie]

I don't trust this information because all of my attempts to find more information only lead me to other blatantly Zionist sources.

[MarxSchmarx]

What is wrong with some of you people?

If this were a team of American, French, Chinese, British scientists would you be all "this was done with the blood of native Americans/west African/Tibetan/Irish" etc...? Of course not. Seriously, what kind of analysis is that?

Darwin came up with his theory of natural selection at the hight of British imperialist expansion. Einstein came up with relativity when Prussia was at its most repressive. Edison filed his patents as a systematic genocide against the remaining indigenous Americans was being carried out. But these were breakthroughs nonetheless (well edison maybe not so much)

The scientists who discovered this happened to be Israeli. Israel is really just another fairly well-to-do capitalist country with an educated populace. It is therefore no surprise that some biotech breakthroughs happen there. It could really have just as readily happened in other advanced capitalist countries with relatively benign foreign policies like Slovenia or something.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

The scientists who discovered this happened to be Israeli. Israel is really just another fairly well-to-do capitalist country with an educated populace. It is therefore no surprise that some biotech breakthroughs happen there. It could really have just as readily happened in other advanced capitalist countries with relatively benign foreign policies like Slovenia or something.

Except the information seems dubious when there's no proper source for it that isn't a nationalist website. If you do have a proper and more scientific source for this information, please do share, because feeble googling only led me to nationalist nonsense praising this as the unique ingenuity of Israel, and no actual details and specifics. I don't think it would be unlikely that such a thing would be developed in Israel, but the website the OP links to is offensive, and I'm surprised to see anyone on here reading such a revolting website with any seriousness.

[MarxSchmarx]

Except the information seems dubious when there's no proper source for it that isn't a nationalist website. If you do have a proper and more scientific source for this information, please do share, because feeble googling only led me to nationalist nonsense praising this as the unique ingenuity of Israel, and no actual details and specifics. I don't think it would be unlikely that such a thing would be developed in Israel, but the website the OP links to is offensive, and I'm surprised to see anyone on here reading such a revolting website with any seriousness.

i thought we were discussing this development not the website.
anyway:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X1100658X
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21570434

[MarxSchmarx]

. are you comparing isreal with slovenia??
i wonder what palestinians would make of what you just wrote.
get real.

No, I'm saying that this particular breakthrough could have just as easily happened in Slovenia as Israel. Where did I say Slovenia builds walls to systematically exclude ethnic minorities (although their treatment of gypsies is deplorable). Where did I say Slovenia creates a military juggernaut that is seen by its neighbors as a threat?

In case you didn't know it, the first successful heart transplant happened in Apartheid South Africa. It could have easily been (again) Slovenia (well Yugoslavia at the time) or Japan or Belgium or Canada or any other country in the global north, which white south Africans experienced at the time.

Does this make it any less of a medical breakthrough? Does this mean apartheid's sins are washed away? Does this mean anything other than that less that developed, capitalist countries have a considerable advantage than the rest of the world in scientific breakthroughs?

Talk about getting real.

[pastradamus]

Lies, lies and more lies. I dont believe anything that comes from that state.

[Rafiq]

^yeh makes a change for the terrorist state from spreading cancers.


Except this is the science forum...

A lot of the shit we post here comes from the United States (Breakthroughs and such) how come you don't say anything? The US has killed and "terrorized" far more people then Israel has....

Or maybe you're just an opportunist who could care less about scientific breakthroughs and just want to post on threads that involve the name Israel.

[freepalestine]

lol.i didnt post the thread with links to a isreali fascist website.


also,i dont get why you say you are arab ,what is that about?
youre one of the most antiarab and proisreal posters after the usual obvious suspects on here.

[Nox]

youre one of the most antiarab and proisreal posters after the usual obvious suspects on here.

Damn, you got me.

[Rafiq]

lol.i didnt post the thread with links to a isreali fascist website.

Unless you think that the OP is some kind of "zionist spy" I don't see why you should have to jump in and complain... When this is the science forum.


also,i dont get why you say you are arab ,what is that about?
youre one of the most antiarab and proisreal posters after the usual obvious suspects on here.



Oh, I don't know, Shit-head, maybe it's because.... Maybe, just maybe I am actually of Arab descent?

I'm not pro Israel, you're just Anti-Scientific and Anti Marxist.

[Rafiq]

Lol @ Free palestine neg repping my post above ^

[The Vegan Marxist]

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X1100658X
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21570434

It's pretty clear that some came to this forum merely to spout their anti-Zionism. Given the fact that MarxSchmarx just provided credible sources backing up the OP's article. And yet, no one seems to be conversing over these sources, and instead continue their anti-Zionist ranting.

I'm just as much of an anti-Zionist as everyone else here, but if their scientists were able to come up with a cancer vaccine as such as they claim, then should this not be supported? I'd love to see any one of you tell a child, woman or man in their face that a cure exists, but they're not allowed such privileges because the vaccine was designed by scientists of the Zionist state.

[9]

I'm just as much of an anti-Zionist as everyone else here, but if their scientists were able to come up with a cancer vaccine as such as they claim, then should this not be supported? I'd love to see any one of you tell a child, woman or man in their face that a cure exists, but they're not allowed such privileges because the vaccine was designed by scientists of the Zionist state.

lol I don't know where you're getting this from; I don't think that argument is being made anywhere in this thread, and I seriously doubt anyone would have expressed any skepticism to begin with if the original poster hadn't linked to a blatantly nationalist website (http://unitedwithisrael.org/about-us)..

[Devrim]

Lol @ Free palestine neg repping my post above ^

He does that to me sometimes rather than being able to discuss things openly, he just resorts to making insulting comments in private. I feel a bit sorry for him really.

Devrim