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aty
14th November 2011, 02:42
Defend Stockholm!

Northern Europes biggest nazi-march "Salem-marsch" will be held on Saturday, 10 December in Stockholm this year. The nazis have moved the location from the Stockholm suburb of Salem to the center of Stockholm.
They have done this because they think they can get more people out, and because of that the same evening the Nobel-prize banquet will be held in central Stockholm with a lot of media presence.

There will naturally be a counter-demonstration by antifascists. Gathering in central Stockholm, Kungsträdgården at 12.00.

https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166191500143045
http://viar94procent.org/
[email protected]

Earlier years:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwkZrNqbWYY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwkZrNqbWYY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxvr16SCps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxvr16SCps)

Princess Luna
14th November 2011, 03:08
What a bunch of morons, do they really think the media is going to pull it's attention away from Nobel-prize banquet to focus on a couple hundred (at most) idiots ranting about how Jews control the world.

Smyg
14th November 2011, 09:36
It'll be a glorious failure, I imagine. Bad move, taking it into central Stockholm.

IndependentCitizen
14th November 2011, 16:23
SMASH THE FASH! Make sure you chase them into an on-coming train.

Lanky Wanker
14th November 2011, 22:03
This is where we all pull out our flags and say


NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!!!
:star: :reda: :hammersickle: :blackA: :star2:
antifa loooolz omg ftw 666 punk rawk

Change colours and symbolism to person taste, of course.

Sasha
14th November 2011, 22:18
Hmmm, this is during my planned holiday break, I'm afraid though I will not be able to afford a trip to Stockholm... ill check though.

thefinalmarch
15th November 2011, 00:10
This is where we all pull out our flags and say


NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!!!
:star: :reda: :hammersickle: :blackA: :star2:
antifa loooolz omg ftw 666 punk rawk

Change colours and symbolism to person taste, of course.
does it make me a bad leftist if i crack up laughing at this

aty
16th November 2011, 14:23
For danish and maybe german comrades there will be busses from Denmark:
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=237496012972581
http://projektantifa.dk/nyheder/article/det-falske-salem-endnu-et-afa
http://projektantifa.dk/nyheder/article/fynsk-jysk-faellesafgang-til-det

aty
28th November 2011, 18:52
There will also be an event called "Ljudiska konspirationen" it means "the noisy conspiracy" but in swedish it have a twist. If you take away the "L" from "Ljudiska" it means jewish. (L)judiska konspirationen= jewish conspiracy :)

People will gather around the march to drown it out with noise, event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=286963861348655

Here is the event for the main demonstration: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166191500143045

Here is the event for the Unions and parliamentary left parties: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=242453412483112

The Young Left will have demonstrations on 7 different places in the center of Stockholm during the day.
A network called "Stop nazism - Active non-violence" will stand along the nazis march with signs with people who was murdered by nazis in Sweden.

Bronco
28th November 2011, 19:15
Out of interest, why does it say "We are 94%"?

Smyg
28th November 2011, 19:18
Strangely enough, given that it's not only a popular front thing (guh) and rather unrelated to these Nazis in particular, it is the percent of the Swedish population that did not vote for the Sweden Democrats in last year's election, I believe.

SacRedMan
28th November 2011, 19:40
Let them do want they want. Only wrong educated or raised kids that are still in their puberty will take place in it. Don't worry, they are like a dog that is barking: nobody knows why, but they are still barking.

Smyg
28th November 2011, 19:45
We do not allow the fascists a platform, regardless of how pathetic they are. Never. Ever.

aty
28th November 2011, 22:14
Let them do want they want.
Yeah, they were allowed that in the 90s in Sweden and a lot of people died. Not a good idea...

Smyg
29th November 2011, 07:14
... and when we say a lot of people, we mean a lot of people.

aty
29th November 2011, 16:49
Nick Griffin leader for BNP (British National Party) will talk at this event!

Interesting that he will walk among outspoken nationalsocialists? British comrades were are you? Come to Stockholm!

aty
30th November 2011, 13:07
Some more news, FNU(Nationalist Youth) and the Nationaldemocrats had a big fight yesterday. They are the main organizers for this demonstration. The Nationaldemocrats attacked some from FNU in their party-headquarters with knifes and batons. But it was the Nationaldemocrats leader Marc Abrahamsson that was sent to hospital! :laugh:
http://expo.se/2011/nationaldemokraternas-partiledare-misshandlad_4553.html

The nazis have also revealed that a parliament member will speak at this demonstration! It would be huge if it is actually true.
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/1.787257-riksdagsman-tagar-med-nazister

The American band The Local Natives are demanding that the nazis remove their song from the nazis promotion-video and says that they are united with the counter-demonstration. http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/amerikanskt-rockband-agerar-mot-svenska-hogerextremister_6674516.svd

Smyg
30th November 2011, 13:28
Haha, really? :thumbup: I love it when Nazis fight each others rather than their actual enemies.

If a SD parliamentarian speaks at the Nazi march, it'll be a damn nice blow to their attempts to make themselves seem like a normal party, and might just lead to said parliamentarian being purged.

hatzel
30th November 2011, 16:00
British comrades were are you? Come to Stockholm!

You know I'm tempted. It would feel like a terrible waste of my Swedish language skills to not use them randomly zipping over to Stockholm to complain at...ah...Brits...this all makes so much sense :thumbup:

Tavarisch_Mike
8th December 2011, 18:56
It might be worth noticing that until a month ago (wasnt it?) the organization Salemfonden who arranges the march since the start 00, declared that they will stop doing it. Then a couple of weeks later a bounch of all this small fash-fractions quickly tried to put something up which is this years march. So it all seems to be quite a desperat act by the slitting and failing nazi movement in Sweden.

One more interesting thing is that this year the tactic is not to be a small ultra militant squad who, almoust, directly will seek physicall confrontation but more of a popular front trying to gather as many people as possible, an idea that might be inspired frome the succesful german antifas. Anyway I hope evrybody that have the possibility, will come.

No Passaran!

IndependentCitizen
13th December 2011, 20:41
Any reports in English, comrades? Very interested in hearing how Anti-fascists resisted this.

svenne
13th December 2011, 21:32
I don't know if there's any english stuff written on the matter, but some of the more important things:
- The nazis were fewer than ever, around 500. They've been shrinking since the early 00s, when they were around 2000. In the meantime, their other big manifestation on the swedish national day (6th of july) isn't arranged any more, at least not in the center of Stockholm.
- A couple of hundred people disturbed the nazis with vuvuzelas and other loud things when they held their speaches. A lot of firecrackers was thrown at them. Later, smaller and bigger groups of antifascists was around their march, and while the police managed to keep the two sides from each other, the nazis seems to have been pretty afraid. There's a video of them (on youtube) screaming and mostly sounding extremely stressed out.
- Two groups of nazis accidently attacked each other, instead of the "commies". Great job...
- The after talk from them on their pages seems to indicate that a lot of people are disappointed, both with the dwindling numbers, but also with the police not being able to stop things thrown at them, and their own inability to do anything (except beat each other)
- Numbers for our side (this is somewhat guessing, as i was 600 km away when it all happened...): 1500 in the "We are the 94 %"-demonstration, arranged by the non-parlamentarian left; 500 in the LO (the dominant social democrat union) and VP (the only big ex-communist party) demonstration, which was arranged a couple of hours later; 500+ making noise and protesting directly against the march, both peacefully and with more offensive tactics. Mostly from the earlier "We are the 94 %" demonstration.

aty
13th December 2011, 22:22
About 2000 antifascists in total but the event was 6 hours and at the end it was just swarms of people in the old town of Stockholm on every street trying to reach the nazis so it is impossible to say. The police could not handle the situation at all, some minor confrontations and a lot of throwing things. One nazi had a bomb exploded in his face badly injuring his eye.


Nazis trying to get to their demonstration. They are shouting "stay togheter", "get back", "forward", "RUN!"....:laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTBzYXxSijw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTBzYXxSijw)

Nazis getting some flares: http://tv.expressen.se/nyheter/inrikes/1.2648342/demonstrationen-urartar-i-stockholm

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=fn5fm.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=u0scp.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

IndependentCitizen
13th December 2011, 22:32
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=u0scp.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Oh holy mother of christ, he looks possessed.

Sasha
13th December 2011, 22:37
awsome, they sound scared shitless :thumbup1:
so sad i missed it

aty
21st December 2011, 16:15
Video of two nazi-groups attacking each other by mistake :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P3Keq9GZIA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P3Keq9GZIA)

Kkay
21st December 2011, 19:01
It felt great being there with you comrades, after this big ass failure no one will hopefully dare to try to arrange another "salem" march!

Olentzero
22nd December 2011, 09:59
Out of interest, why does it say "We are 94%"?The Sweden Democrats (the 'respectable', parliamentary face of Swedish Nazism) pulled approximately 5% of the vote in the 2010 elections, so the organization that put the counterdemo together - STARK - decided that the 5% of Swedish workers et al. who actually voted for the SD shouldn't be counted.


Any reports in English, comrades? Very interested in hearing how Anti-fascists resisted this.Well, since I was there, I guess I could give you a little more detail - at least about the parts I was involved in.

A couple thousand people from different organizations met at Kungsträdgården - a large park in downtown Stockholm - around 12 noon, and there were some speeches and live music to get in the mood. Following that there was a march to the 'ljudiska konspiration' (as mentioned above), with a few more speeches and such. Both of these were a kilometer or so away from the neo-Nazi march and rally, I suppose to allow people who hate fascists but don't agree with confronting them to get involved.

After the International Noise Conspiracy (sorry, couldn't resist) there were arguments and calls made to go down to the Royal Castle in Old Town and get as close as possible to the Nazis to shout them down. I think this was about 1 or 2 PM, I don't exactly remember. But I'm pretty sure at least a thousand people to begin with went on to the counterdemo.

The cops had cordoned off the area and put police vans in between the Nazis and us; the closest we got was probably about 30-50 meters away. We were loud and proud out there; we kept up chants and boos for a good three hours (including Swedish versions of "Whose streets? Our streets" and "Nazi OUT, Nazi OUT, Nazi Nazi Nazi OUT OUT OUT"). Whoever said firecrackers were being thrown is wrong; those things weren't firecrackers, they were homemade petards. Big friggin' boom.

I didn't witness the Nazis attacking each other, unfortunately, but I did hear about it later and it was hilarious. Apparently the march split off at some point in the route and when they joined back together the more excitable idiots in the lot automatically assumed the other side was the counterdemo. Commence throwing of bottles and other crap until everybody realized who the other guys were.

In any case, the Nazis failed in getting their message out to the general public; they were blocked off by police vans and drowned out by the continuous noise from the anti-fascist crowd within earshot. They finished off with a torchlight march after the sun had set (this was about 4 PM) so it was easy for the hundred or so of us who remained to get an idea of how big their rally was. Easily a couple hundred people, but as noted it wasn't one party but several trying to scrape an event together.

Personally I don't agree with the tactic of throwing homemade explosives; sure, it rattled the Nazis good (and that's the least they deserve) but it probably also rattled people who showed up to counterdemonstrate. That's not something we want to achieve in building a mass opposition to fascist organizations.

Oh, and just for fun, a pic from early on in the demonstration to give you all an idea of the size. *removed personal identifying information*

An archist
22nd December 2011, 14:51
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg610/scaled.php?tn=0&server=610&filename=fn5fm.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640


That's a really cool picture, I'm assuming those are the anti-fascists?

Olentzero
22nd December 2011, 16:04
Yeah, I recognize the background. The position of the buildings is consistent with the location of the counterdemo. The Nazis were pretty much right in front of that white building and further along towards the left; the Royal Castle is out of frame to the left.

magicstick
23rd December 2011, 00:21
They aren't Nazis. If they were, they'd all be arrested. At least that's how I think it works in Sweden, I had a Swedish friend a while ago who used to tell me all of this shit.

Olentzero
23rd December 2011, 08:51
They aren't arrested, and they are indeed Nazis. I've seen them stage rallies and marches around Stockholm, usually under heavy police guard because they've applied for permits and all that rigmarole.

An archist
23rd December 2011, 14:27
Video of two nazi-groups attacking each other by mistake :laugh:
4P3Keq9GZIA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P3Keq9GZIA)

And they filmed it and put it online :p

Dimmu
23rd December 2011, 17:09
Great demo and thanks to all the swedish comrades for taking care us while we were in Sweden, ive probably met some of you at the demo or at a 'certain' cafe in Stockholm. :)

The only crappy thing was being arrested by the cops after the demo and then being bussed off to suburbs.