skyrim

[bcbm]

holy fuck.


that's all i have time to say, gotta get back to it see you guys in six months

[#FF0000]

I wasn't impressed

The good:

The environment's fucking gorgeous
Magic is fun
Dragons are neat
And the music is great.

The bad:

-The interface (PC)
-The introduction is entirely over-long like goddamn.
-There are literally three stats -- health, magick, and stamina. My high elf necromancer guy can literally throw a punch just as hard as my Super-tuff Orc viking-barbarian
-I thought melee combat was terrible. But, I mean, I don't really know how well you can do first-person melee combat. Maybe this is the best anyone can do?

I also think it's too easy.

But

that's just me

and the opinion I am posting in every Skyrim thread.

[khad]

-There are literally three stats -- health, magick, and stamina. My high elf necromancer guy can literally throw a punch just as hard as my Super-tuff Orc viking-barbarian
Guess no more boots of blinding speed.

[Smyg]

Introduction is long? Not longer than Oblivion, I hope? That was just disgusting. I fucking hate long introductions. Baldur's Gate 2 was sooo painful...

[a rebel]

I like the fact that i can be a blacksmith, and I've been playing in and around the same town for the past 10 hours now. Holy fuck this game is huge

[Princess Luna]

Introduction is long? Not longer than Oblivion, I hope? That was just disgusting. I fucking hate long introductions. Baldur's Gate 2 was sooo painful...
for like 7 minutes in the beginning you can't do anything except move you head, however the actual tutorial is cool though because you get to
kill lots of imperial scum! unless of you go with the imperial general guy
but to be honest by the 5th character it starts to get really boring

[Sturmovik]

I have to say I am quite impressed, I absolutely hated Obivion and Fallout 3, Morrowind couldn't keep me interested either, but this hits the spot.

In games like these I like to be a hoarder, play a thief, get a place of my own and just move everything there. I am only like 4 hours in and haven't found a place of my own yet, but I am sure it will come. Came across and joined the Dark Brotherhood and got a sweet set of armor that should help me get what I need. Hide your kids hide your wives cause I am gonna take them all.

And I agree the combat is as terrible as it is in every single Bethesda game, and there is no excuse really, good first person melee combat CAN be done, one good example is Dark Messiah of Might & Magic

[Tablo]

Better than Oblivion. With mods to fix all the things Bethesda fucked up the game will be crazy fucking awesome.

[Belleraphone]

I'm pretending that the Stormcloaks are marxists and i'm helping them defeat the IMPERIAL SCUM.

[#FF0000]

And I agree the combat is as terrible as it is in every single Bethesda game, and there is no excuse really, good first person melee combat CAN be done, one good example is Dark Messiah of Might & Magic

CHRIST how did I forget that? Combat in that game was incredible. And it was one of the few games where you could play a rogue and actually stand a chance, since every stage was set in such a way that you could fight your way through it with magic, brute force, or stealth.

gr8 game, that one.

[Belleraphone]

I thought the combat was actually amazing in this game.

[#FF0000]

I thought the combat was actually amazing in this game.

idk, it seems pretty simple and primitive to me, with the "move in, attack, back up" strategy p. much being all you need for encounters with other things your size.

Compare to something like Dark Souls (very different game) or even Dark Messiah.

[Ocean Seal]

I like everything except for the melee combat. But then again, that's why I play as an archer :lol:.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

I'm pretending that the Stormcloaks are marxists and i'm helping them defeat the IMPERIAL SCUM.

Nah, they're racists. Speak to the guy in front of the tavern at Windhelm and see what he say's about the dark elves. My character is a dark elf, I beat the living shit out of him.

I've spend a good few hours sneaking about doing tedious shit for the Thieves guild. Markarth museum is a nightmare to splinter-cell your way through, I'm not looking forward to the encounters with all that gigantic mechanical Dwarf crap later on in the game... I only hope I've got a decent weapon by then. Currently I'm using the 'Honed ancient greatsword of cold' or something like that, I also have the 'Honed ancient greatsword of burning' too (which is better) but its ran out of charge/enchantment/whatever you call it.

[Tablo]

Yeah, Stormcloaks are Nordic nationalists. I will side with whoever will provide me with the greatest financial benefit. :cool:

[Commissar Rykov]

It is fun but as was already stated melee combat is still garbage. I found it got even clunkier as a werewolf.

[ComradeNarwhal]

My friend goes crazy over things like this.:laugh:
I used to be really into video games and such, they're just so damn expensive!
But yes, this game is pretty sick. I love DRAGONS ! !:lol:
and I like the graphics and landscape 'n' such. Pretty awesome.

[Per Levy]

allright after i played for more then 1 hour, ectually wasted around 15 hours on the game, i have to say its a really good game, not perfect but very good. i have a lot of fun with it, sure there is some rightful critizism but overall i have a lot of fun with it and i have seen so very little skyrim.

[Per Levy]

I'm pretending that the Stormcloaks are marxists and i'm helping them defeat the IMPERIAL SCUM.

na the stormcloaks are pretty much national liberation movement, probally not even that since all they want is a ruler who doesnt bow down to the empire. but as far as im concerned, i like the stormcloaks more then the empire.

[Commissar Rykov]

na the stormcloaks are pretty much national liberation movement, probally not even that since all they want is a ruler who doesnt bow down to the empire. but as far as im concerned, i like the stormcloaks more then the empire.
Wait till you see what racist fuckheads they are. At least the Empire accepts everyone and even stamped out slavery where it went. I have a feeling the Stormcloaks are more in line with reverting back to behavior they were into before they became part of the Empire.

[Manifesto]

Wait till you see what racist fuckheads they are. At least the Empire accepts everyone and even stamped out slavery where it went. I have a feeling the Stormcloaks are more in line with reverting back to behavior they were into before they became part of the Empire.
Yeah I could tell that it was some Nord white nationalist movement from the start, just like the Elves in Thalmor. It was hard to remember that Tiber Septim/Talos may have took control of the entire world and not hate him but the slavery thing really balances that out. Soooo many Khajiit and Argonian slaves in Morrowind, about 150 I think. Which is why I never got how they could be bitter enemies.

[Sturmovik]

I sided with the Stormcloaks at the very start because well, I was going to get my head chopped off by the other.

Didn't know they were such assholes. But I think I can still change cause I didn't officially join em yet?

[Die Rote Fahne]

I sided with the Stormcloaks at the very start because well, I was going to get my head chopped off by the other.

Didn't know they were such assholes. But I think I can still change cause I didn't officially join em yet?
Yeah, i'm not far enough to know their assholery...so...if you can change, thatd be good...especially if I dont think id enjoy being a stormcloak.

[Commissar Rykov]

Yeah I could tell that it was some Nord white nationalist movement from the start, just like the Elves in Thalmor. It was hard to remember that Tiber Septim/Talos may have took control of the entire world and not hate him but the slavery thing really balances that out. Soooo many Khajiit and Argonian slaves in Morrowind, about 150 I think. Which is why I never got how they could be bitter enemies.
Yeah I was pretty disturbed by the Ghettos that the Stormcloaks were forcing the Dark Elves into it seems like just a short hop, skip and a jump before they are full out exterminating or deporting them once they run the Empire off. Yeah I never had much of a positive view of the Empire except when I reached the Eastern Edge of Morrowind where the Telvanni run giant slave rackets. Then I found it easy to understand why the Empire had little patience for the Dark Elves old traditions.

[Catma]

This game seems to have little innovation at all. It is still very addictive and somewhat satisfying. I'm not sure if I can bring myself to play through it a second time; I never did with fallout 3. Then again that game was much darker and gloomier (talking about lighting here.)

The combat, as stated, is incredibly boring. A large number of improvements and mechanics could have been attempted, but it looks like they didn't try even one. The skills are mostly boring. There is no difference between the classes, indeed there are no classes really. You can challenge yourself by artificially limiting your choices, but when has that ever been a good mechanic? Every combat is the same, you either swing your weapon or launch arrows or spells, any build can do any of these with the perks mostly providing minor boosts.... Unless some of the late game skills are actually interesting.


Of course there are no decent revolutionary factions, I've almost never seen a game with any.

And what is the point of my Khajiit having a bonus to unarmed combat when there is no way to improve unarmed combat at all?

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

What the fuck are you people talking about?

[Smyg]

I demand more revolutionaries in gaming, and especially the Elder Scrolls series. There's essentially only the slave abolitionist in Morrowind, no?

[Rafiq]

I beat thw game yesterday. Best TES yet.

Now im gonna go back and play.

Bye

[Rafiq]

The thalmor(elf empire) are aristocratic bourgeois reactionaries. The stormcloaks arw actually funded by the thalmor to weaken the empire. Not all elves are fond of the thalmor, though.

Fuck both the rebels and the empire.

Companions ftw

[Commissar Rykov]

The thalmor(elf empire) are aristocratic bourgeois reactionaries. The stormcloaks arw actually funded by the thalmor to weaken the empire. Not all elves are fond of the thalmor, though.

Fuck both the rebels and the empire.

Companions ftw
The Companions were pretty fucking awesome no leadership to speak of and everyone enjoys getting drunk and killing shit.:thumbup1:

[Die Rote Fahne]

The thalmor(elf empire) are aristocratic bourgeois reactionaries. The stormcloaks arw actually funded by the thalmor to weaken the empire. Not all elves are fond of the thalmor, though.

Fuck both the rebels and the empire.

Companions ftw

Spoilers yay

[Tablo]

This game seems to have little innovation at all. It is still very addictive and somewhat satisfying. I'm not sure if I can bring myself to play through it a second time; I never did with fallout 3. Then again that game was much darker and gloomier (talking about lighting here.)
I don't think the fans want any real innovation in the series. They just want improvements of the gameplay they love and a continuation of the TES story.



The combat, as stated, is incredibly boring. A large number of improvements and mechanics could have been attempted, but it looks like they didn't try even one.
The combat is much much better than before. They included stuff from the Deadly Reflex Oblivion mod. I'm not a melee guy so I'm not so concerned about it anyway.



The skills are mostly boring.
How so? I love combining illusion, conjuration and destruction to wipe out my enemies.



There is no difference between the classes, indeed there are no classes really.
How is there no difference? I know they don't have a proper class system, but you can tailor your character into the class build you want over the course of your play through.



You can challenge yourself by artificially limiting your choices, but when has that ever been a good mechanic?
It gives you the freedom to play the game however you want. I'm a mage and refuse to wear armor despite the lack of penalty it has. If it is too easy then turn the difficulty to max. The game will be even harder with mods.


Every combat is the same, you either swing your weapon or launch arrows or spells, any build can do any of these with the perks mostly providing minor boosts.... Unless some of the late game skills are actually interesting.
There are more spells than destruction and you aren't being forced to use only one combat style.


Of course there are no decent revolutionary factions, I've almost never seen a game with any.
The fantasy world in the TES games isn't industrialized. I don't see why you expect there to be anything other than the empire and a bunch of nationalist groups.


And what is the point of my Khajiit having a bonus to unarmed combat when there is no way to improve unarmed combat at all?
I agree completely. That's one change that makes no sense at all.

[Rafiq]

The Companions were pretty fucking awesome no leadership to speak of and everyone enjoys getting drunk and killing shit.:thumbup1:

And theyre werewolfs and you become one too.

Badass.

[Tablo]

I seem to recall them saying there would be no werewolves. Glad they did it anyway.

[#FF0000]

I don't think the fans want any real innovation in the series. They just want improvements of the gameplay they love and a continuation of the TES story.

I'm fine with no innovation -- but why oh why do they have to put less shit in every single game? Less weapons, less skills, less everything?



How is there no difference? I know they don't have a proper class system, but you can tailor your character into the class build you want over the course of your play through.


My high elf necromancer is just as much a bar-brawler as my orc barbarian, though.


The fantasy world in the TES games isn't industrialized. I don't see why you expect there to be anything other than the empire and a bunch of nationalist groups.


+1

It would be absolutely baller to have peasant rebellions, though. Those were common as fuck iirc.

[ComradeGrant]

As soon as I heard the companions were leaderless I decided to ignore both major factions and join them. Werewolf Argonians for the win. I like though that they make both sides imperfect. In Oblivion it was "the Empire is good, the Mythic Dawn is bad. Kill the red cloaked guys (Mehrunes Dagon is also apparently the Daedric prince of revolution.)" Now it's like "well the Empire is invading and hurting culture, but the Stormcloaks are racist." I still murder members of both sides when I find them in the wilderness though.

[Tablo]

My high elf necromancer is just as much a bar-brawler as my orc barbarian, though.
I agree that is an issue. I am also annoyed by the lack of weapons. Morrowind is still my favorite with good reason.



It would be absolutely baller to have peasant rebellions, though. Those were common as fuck iirc.
Would be awesome.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

As soon as I heard the companions were leaderless I decided to ignore both major factions and join them. Werewolf Argonians for the win. I like though that they make both sides imperfect. In Oblivion it was "the Empire is good, the Mythic Dawn is bad. Kill the red cloaked guys (Mehrunes Dagon is also apparently the Daedric prince of revolution.)" Now it's like "well the Empire is invading and hurting culture, but the Stormcloaks are racist." I still murder members of both sides when I find them in the wilderness though.

Prince of revolution?...lol...I think you mean inter-imperialist rivalry.

[Rafiq]

Stop. Puting. Your. Political. Bullshit. In. My. Favorite. Game.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

I've lost 3 days to this game already, I can feel my Uni grades disintegrating like a wet cake... :glare: Beat the game. The main quest is pretty short, but given there is so much else still to do, I can let it slide. Level 23-24, it's starting to get difficult, everywhere I raid there's a mage that can sith-lord the shit out of me.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Yeah I was pretty disturbed by the Ghettos that the Stormcloaks were forcing the Dark Elves into it seems like just a short hop, skip and a jump before they are full out exterminating or deporting them once they run the Empire off. Yeah I never had much of a positive view of the Empire except when I reached the Eastern Edge of Morrowind where the Telvanni run giant slave rackets. Then I found it easy to understand why the Empire had little patience for the Dark Elves old traditions.
Yeah they pretty much remind me of the Nazis before they started the exterminations. I just accepted a quest to kill some bandits because they keep attacking the elves. Apparently the rebels don't care if you're an elf and get attacked but if a Nord is so much as scratched they are on the offense so I have to go protect them.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

And theyre werewolfs and you become one too.

Badass.
That's how you become a werewolf? The guy at Gamestop told me I should play as a werewolf and I had no idea how to do that. Now I know how, thank you.

[Rafiq]

I just got married to a Lizard man.

After he gives me his daily 100 coins and I get enough money for some training I'm going to decapitate him and feed on his body as a werewolf.

[bcbm]

there will be spoilers in this post



-The interface (PC)

the interface is great on console


-The introduction is entirely over-long like goddamn.


its shorter than oblivions


-There are literally three stats -- health, magick, and stamina. My high elf necromancer guy can literally throw a punch just as hard as my Super-tuff Orc viking-barbarian

there were only three stats in oblivion and morrowind too. skills determine that shit. i doubt your high elf necromancer can swing a sword as hard as your orc, eh?


-I thought melee combat was terrible. But, I mean, I don't really know how well you can do first-person melee combat. Maybe this is the best anyone can do?

it isn't a huge step up from oblivion, but i thought it was still an improvement and feels more visceral. using two-handed weapons especially feels more fun.


idk, it seems pretty simple and primitive to me, with the "move in, attack, back up" strategy p. much being all you need for encounters with other things your size.

if you're fighting more than one i think it requires different strategy and i like the shield bashing, its a good addition.


I'm fine with no innovation -- but why oh why do they have to put less shit in every single game? Less weapons, less skills, less everything?

there were some new skills in this game, a few were simply combined in a way i thought worked well and still allows you to favor specific weapons or whatever. i think there are as many weapons and armors in this game as in oblivion.


but to be honest by the 5th character it starts to get really boring

it autosaves right before character selection then there is like maybe two minutes of being stuck and then you can just sprint through the rest and be out in the world in maybe four minutes


I've spend a good few hours sneaking about doing tedious shit for the Thieves guild. Markarth museum is a nightmare to splinter-cell your way through

tedious? i thought the thieves guild had some of the most fun stuff to do, but i like the stealth aspect. markath museum was pretty easy i thought, but i have a pretty high sneak skill. i made a point on the way out of the city to kill every city guard.


Wait till you see what racist fuckheads they are. At least the Empire accepts everyone and even stamped out slavery where it went.

and, you know, the massacres. empire is no saints.


I have a feeling the Stormcloaks are more in line with reverting back to behavior they were into before they became part of the Empire.

how do you mean? skyrim's culture hasn't been too affected by the empire as far as i can tell, or at least it happened so long ago there is nothing to really revert to. mostly they want talos worship and to kick out the dunmer.

the forsworn are pretty much full on primitivists though, which is sweet.


This game seems to have little innovation at all.

i thought it was pretty obvious they've learned a lot both from making fallout 3 and from paying attention to other recent rpg titles.


There is no difference between the classes, indeed there are no classes really.

i'm playing a couple different characters and the experience is quite a bit different with stealth vs. warrior characters, and even within variations of those.


And what is the point of my Khajiit having a bonus to unarmed combat when there is no way to improve unarmed combat at all

heavy armor has a skill perk to improve unarmed combat with different heavy armors.

[piet11111]

The shield bash was in oblivion too.

The melee combat is seriously lacking i would have loved a dark messiah combat style where the odds of decapitation are present (yeah i know there is a skill unlock in the skill tree but that is just a dice mechanic instead of player controlled)

Magic is better though especially the continual use of sparks and flame i love or by dual wielding them into 1 big spell.
But i do not like how skills only improve with trainers or by using them.
Sneaking sucks if you lack the skill and the only way to improve it is to suffer through the experience.
Same with blacksmithing i do not want to grind by making iron daggers over and over again as if that somehow makes me capable of crafting dragon armor if i just keep doing that over and over again.
I kinda miss the repair skill and how it enabled me to get weapon and armor condition to 125% but carrying a hundred hammers around is something i do not miss the blacksmithing improvements are a much better system.

[bcbm]

But i do not like how skills only improve with trainers or by using them.

i think that makes more sense than just being able to improve them whenever


Sneaking sucks if you lack the skill and the only way to improve it is to suffer through the experience.

low level sneaking is easy you just have to go slow i didn't think it was 'suffering' at all, it gives sneaking a tension

[Tomhet]

I bought this shit for 80$ after being told it was well worth it, only to find out my remote is broken.... :(
I think I'll invest in a new one though, I've been waiting for this game for a couple of years..

[Rafiq]

Also a new addition I love:

Weapons and Armour never degenerate!

[Die Rote Fahne]

Can we merge the two skyrim threads?

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Also a new addition I love:

Weapons and Armour never degenerate!

I kinda wish they added in a 'Hardcore' mode like they did for New Vegas, weapon degeneration could have been part of it. For me its a step down from NV where you needed to Eat, Drink and Sleep... Food and Drink in Skyrim seems to be near pointless since you don't need to eat nor drink and neither seem to replenish much health. Skyrim should have had some kind of survival element to it other than how much damage you can soak up.

[OhYesIdid]

Stop. Puting. Your. Political. Bullshit. In. My. Favorite. Game.

But It's so much fun!

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I kinda wish they added in a 'Hardcore' mode like they did for New Vegas, weapon degeneration could have been part of it. For me its a step down from NV where you needed to Eat, Drink and Sleep... Food and Drink in Skyrim seems to be near pointless since you don't need to eat nor drink and neither seem to replenish much health. Skyrim should have had some kind of survival element to it other than how much damage you can soak up.

Keep your 'Hardcore' mode away from me! The difficulty-IT BURNS! :p:scared:

[Nucking_Futz51]

I myself have played Morrowind and Elder Scrolls thoroughly and I don't think there is any other better RPG out there. Skyrim has a blend of a lot of different characteristics. Truly, you can be a mixture of an archer, magician, warrior or thief. There really is no limit as to what the game offers and what you can achieve. As for me, I have 3 characters (all at level 20) and they feature individually the use of magic, two-handed combat, and archery. :)

[Nucking_Futz51]

I wasn't impressed

The good:

The environment's fucking gorgeous
Magic is fun
Dragons are neat
And the music is great.

The bad:

-The interface (PC)
-The introduction is entirely over-long like goddamn.
-There are literally three stats -- health, magick, and stamina. My high elf necromancer guy can literally throw a punch just as hard as my Super-tuff Orc viking-barbarian
-I thought melee combat was terrible. But, I mean, I don't really know how well you can do first-person melee combat. Maybe this is the best anyone can do?

I also think it's too easy.

But

that's just me

and the opinion I am posting in every Skyrim thread.
Try sliding the difficulty up to Expert and see how hard it is to kill a Daugr Scourge. ;)

[Leonid Brozhnev]

I'd like my characters to need to piss and shit periodically as well for that extra immersion :thumbup1:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I'd like my characters to need to piss and shit periodically as well for that extra immersion :thumbup1:

I've seen stranger fetishes...;)

But yeah,that would be kinda weird...

*epic battle just ends*

Hero 1: "Argh,we killed those bastards good! Can't wait until the next fight."

Walks off to the bushes

Hero 2: "Hey,where are you going?!"
Hero 1: Uh,to shit,what does it look like?"

....eh....there are things which third person mode wasn't meant for...

[Spets]

I like the glitches, lol.

[Die Rote Fahne]

I've seen stranger fetishes...;)

But yeah,that would be kinda weird...

*epic battle just ends*

Hero 1: "Argh,we killed those bastards good! Can't wait until the next fight."

Walks off to the bushes

Hero 2: "Hey,where are you going?!"
Hero 1: Uh,to shit,what does it look like?"

....eh....there are things which third person mode wasn't meant for...

Equips toilet paper...

[Geiseric]

Did they bring back the vampire feature?

[Metacomet]

Did they bring back the vampire feature?
Yes

[bcbm]

I kinda wish they added in a 'Hardcore' mode like they did for New Vegas, weapon degeneration could have been part of it. For me its a step down from NV where you needed to Eat, Drink and Sleep... Food and Drink in Skyrim seems to be near pointless since you don't need to eat nor drink and neither seem to replenish much health. Skyrim should have had some kind of survival element to it other than how much damage you can soak up.

i wish drinking beers made it really hard to move your character around and you'd fall over if you swung your warhammer


also some shrooms should give you the 'berserker' bonus

[W1N5T0N]

Dark elven liberation front...

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Dark elven liberation front...

Most awesome group ever...if only it existed.:lol:

[OHumanista]

Hahaha, couldn't resist commenting on this thread and laughing at the other comments.
I am pretty much an imperial guy in game, not that I love it or anything but I take them over ultra nationalist racists any day. (plus Ulfric is damn demagogue, I can't stand him)
Also even if subdued a united empire is still a better resistance to the Thalmor than a Skyrim ruled by tradionalist imbeciles. The empire is plural and multi-racial.
(My evil dark brotherhood, vampire dark elf assassin helped the Stormcloaks though because he is an opportunist)

Now on gameplay. It has some of the issues that the Elder Scrolls series always had but I can't help but love this game even more than the previous ones. It is a VAST improvement over Oblivion and Morrowind. Graphics are sexy but I am not a graphic addict, I even play 2D games like Dominions 3 with no issues. Content is what matters for me and I am (mostly) satisfied with it. It isn't perfect but it is damn good and enjoyable.

[OhYesIdid]

Dark elven liberation front...

To the modding toolset!
mod wish list:
- hardcore mode
- cool drunk effects
- giant mode, defending your mammoths (the lack of this is a fucking shame)
- ability to Program companion behavior. Not just combat: Pick up your arrows and shit
- dragon mode, goddamit
- forsworn campaign ("conspiracy" is just not enough)

[W1N5T0N]

Morrowind for skyrim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Riding a Dragon around Skyrim outside of the final mission would be beyond epic. Shit, you could open an Airport with them.

Also, Vampirism needs to give better perks... you should be able to transform into a Bat at stage one, make the map easier to explore.

Dwemer need to make the biggest comeback since Jesus Chirst.

[bcbm]

every dwemer ruin i find is fucking locked

[Tablo]

every dwemer ruin i find is fucking locked
I've only been in one and everything was too strong. >.>

Hopefully I will get to fully explore it after a couple level ups.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

every dwemer ruin i find is fucking locked

Probably for the best :lol:

[SJBarley]

Only complaint I've got is that the cities just feel too empty? Like the majority are tiny or just villages, I enjoyed having the massive cities in Oblivion like Imperial City and Anvil, I miss that.

Other than that, game is awesome, spent way too long playing it already, grades dropping as we speak :laugh:

[Spets]

Dwarven Centurions are a combo of Chuck Norris and Jean van Damme

[bcbm]

um im pretty sure even falkreath is bigger than anvil... the imperial city was the only real 'big city' in oblivion and solitude or even windhelm feel about the same size or bigger

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Dwarven Centurions are a combo of Chuck Norris and Jean van Damme

Centurions endorse Ron Paul and star in Coor's Light adverts talking about how cold their nipples are?

[Tablo]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3291/2437216411_5929114fd4.jpg
dwarven centurion

[Metacomet]

Damn, I'm 40+ hours in and still I have not even been to Falkreath!

I want to buy the house in........whatever that Stormcloak city is (forgot the name) but the quest is bugged.

I regret helping Ulfric. Not doing that on my second character. What a d-bag

[Leonid Brozhnev]

I put Ulfric down like the piece of shit he was. My character is a Dunmer so I savoured the irony.

Got Legendary Daedric Armour and a Legendary Daedric Greatsword. Now everything is too easy and it's finally getting boring. A relief actually, between Skyrim and BF3 my Uni work the past month has been zero...

[Metacomet]

Things are getting boring for me as well. I even switched weapon types for a challenge but it's still pretty easy. Legendary dragon-bone armor, and legendary ebony sword. No enchantments, but if I had enchantments for magicka protection etc, I would be unstoppable.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Meh, going to be a while till I play this again so I went on a killing spree around Solitude. Kicking ass and chopping heads...

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/AsiniDiabolica/wat/qwfqfqaf.jpg (http://www.majhost.com/gallery/AsiniDiabolica/Things/tesv_2011-11-23_17-22-34-34.jpg)

[Per Levy]

Dark elven liberation front...

my argonian character gets a bad vibe out of this...

anyway, just started with my dunmer vampire the dark brotherhood, and waht shall i say. its the most fun i had with skyrim so far(and i havea lot of fun with it to begin with), seriously, gettig very close to the dark mother and the quest line that comes from that is just me being a child in candy land. dark brotherhood is just the best.

[Sasha]

i dont play this game but going on what some have written in this thread is seems that this should get some of you excited: http://geeks.thedailywh.at/2011/11/22/hidden-skyrim-areas-of-the-day/

[piet11111]

Big expansion almost guaranteed then i like :drool:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Big expansion almost guaranteed then i like :drool:

It is always fun seeing what Bethsda will create for expansions;The Shivering Isles were among my favorite expansions in recent memory.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Bethesda likes to work out what its doing for DLC before the main game is released, they tend to leave hints (the Lonesome Road was an obvious one in New Vegas) so wouldn't surprise me if we'll get to venture into part of Morrowind again.

On the other hand, it could just be an easter egg. New Vegas had tonnes of open space to the west that never got filled in by DLC. We'll just have to wait and see.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Bethesda likes to work out what its doing for DLC before the main game is released, they tend to leave hints (the Lonesome Road was an obvious one in New Vegas) so wouldn't surprise me if we'll get to venture into part of Morrowind again.

Going back to Morrowind would be super cool! :cool:


On the other hand, it could just be an easter egg. New Vegas had tonnes of open space to the west that never got filled in by DLC. We'll just have to wait and see.I doubt it will be filled.If I remember hearing correctly the Game of the Year Edition of Fallout:New Vegas is due out in either January or February;these editions have all the major downloadable content and if we follow Bethsday's usual tracks than we know that once the GOTY version is launched there is no more serious content.

[anarcho-communist4]

Bethesda likes to work out what its doing for DLC before the main game is released, they tend to leave hints (the Lonesome Road was an obvious one in New Vegas) so wouldn't surprise me if we'll get to venture into part of Morrowind again.

On the other hand, it could just be an easter egg. New Vegas had tonnes of open space to the west that never got filled in by DLC. We'll just have to wait and see.

New Vegas was just overseen by Bethesda, Obsidian developed the game (they are a splinter of the company that made Fallout 1-2) But all and all new vegas was pretty EH compared to fallout 3. But yah Todd Howard said that the DLC's will come less often but they will be extremely huge, like expansion packs.

[piet11111]

http://store.steampowered.com/news/6906/

Steam based mod support :thumbup1:

Hopefully this will be a universal standard for skyrim mods and eliminate compatibility issues.

[Ravachol]

mother of jesus, my crappy laptop can barely run it (lowest graphics settings and running at 15 FPS) but I'm just gonna jam this game down it's GPU. Also, seriously considering upgrading my hardware. For the love of god I already missed The Witcher 2 and Deus Ex: Human Revolution because I couldn't run them so I'm gonna right some wrongs there!

[rylasasin]

There needs to be a Marxist (or something similiar) campaign faction mod. Cause let's face it the choices for who gets to rule Skyrim are... less than stellar.

In the red corner: Imperalist (hell, they're even CALLED imperials) puppet regime that while not racist themselves, are being backed (or more accurately, manipulated and controlled) by Elf-Nazis (Thalmor)

And in the blue corner: Racist and Nord Supremacist Nationalists.

For the moment I'll just pass them both by and head to winterhold. :rolleyes:

But actually, I did have an idea for a Marxist and Alternate TES history based semi-conversion mod. (Basically it revolves around the idea of an alternate history for morrowind in which the Nerevarine stays in morrowind and becomes a TES equvilent of Marx and/or Lenin, and then Morrowind and Black Marsh become the TES equivalent of the USSR, a socialist counter to the Thalmor's Nazi Germany equivalent.)

I'm not sure if anyone wants to hear it, and i'm not sure what good it'll do to say it since i'm no good with scripting or modeling or any of that stuff, but... if anyone's interested in hearing about it let me know.

[o well this is ok I guess]

mother of jesus, my crappy laptop can barely run it (lowest graphics settings and running at 15 FPS) but I'm just gonna jam this game down it's GPU. Also, seriously considering upgrading my hardware. For the love of god I already missed The Witcher 2 and Deus Ex: Human Revolution because I couldn't run them so I'm gonna right some wrongs there! Check your local computer store for scrap parts.
If your computers old enough, they count as upgrades.

[Ele'ill]

I jumped off another cliff on a horse.

[bcbm]

There needs to be a Marxist (or something similiar) campaign faction mod. Cause let's face it the choices for who gets to rule Skyrim are... less than stellar.

In the red corner: Imperalist (hell, they're even CALLED imperials) puppet regime that while not racist themselves, are being backed (or more accurately, manipulated and controlled) by Elf-Nazis (Thalmor)

And in the blue corner: Racist and Nord Supremacist Nationalists.

For the moment I'll just pass them both by and head to winterhold. :rolleyes:

But actually, I did have an idea for a Marxist and Alternate TES history based semi-conversion mod. (Basically it revolves around the idea of an alternate history for morrowind in which the Nerevarine stays in morrowind and becomes a TES equvilent of Marx and/or Lenin, and then Morrowind and Black Marsh become the TES equivalent of the USSR, a socialist counter to the Thalmor's Nazi Germany equivalent.)

I'm not sure if anyone wants to hear it, and i'm not sure what good it'll do to say it since i'm no good with scripting or modeling or any of that stuff, but... if anyone's interested in hearing about it let me know.

the empire is quasi-feudal, a 'socialist' society would be quasi-maoist at best and more likely resemble something like the munster rebellion

[Ele'ill]

i dont play this game but going on what some have written in this thread is seems that this should get some of you excited: http://geeks.thedailywh.at/2011/11/22/hidden-skyrim-areas-of-the-day/

I figured they'd do this.

[Ele'ill]

the empire is quasi-feudal, a 'socialist' society would be quasi-maoist at best and more likely resemble something like the munster rebellion

The stormcloaks are assholes too. Fuck the rebellion I'm killing EVERYONE

[bcbm]

the stormcloaks are fighting for national independence from imperialist, as with many such movements it is mired in racism and other reactionary ideologies but it is a feudal society so what can really be expected? it is still more progressive to pursue national independence than be yoked to an empire that is subservient to another empire and bans religious freedom. the stormcloaks are the most progressive option for the people of skyrim, outside of the reach, where we must support the forsworn struggle against genociide

[Ele'ill]

the stormcloaks are fighting for national independence from imperialist, as with many such movements it is mired in racism and other reactionary ideologies but it is a feudal society so what can really be expected? it is still more progressive to pursue national independence than be yoked to an empire that is subservient to another empire and bans religious freedom. the stormcloaks are the most progressive option for the people of skyrim, outside of the reach, where we must support the forsworn struggle against genociide

I didn't take it that far because it's just a game.

[bcbm]

I didn't take it that far because it's just a game.

i took it that far cuz whatever


its more than agame

[Rusty Shackleford]

the stormcloaks are fighting for national independence from imperialist, as with many such movements it is mired in racism and other reactionary ideologies but it is a feudal society so what can really be expected? it is still more progressive to pursue national independence than be yoked to an empire that is subservient to another empire and bans religious freedom. the stormcloaks are the most progressive option for the people of skyrim, outside of the reach, where we must support the forsworn struggle against genociide
in the context of the times, its the only real progressive option to side with the stormcloaks.


if it took place in the 1900s then the stormcloaks, if they still did this(the whole gray quarter evil elves ruining our pure nordic culture whatevs), may not be the most progressive option, and neither would the colonizer.


looking at society in 4E 201 Tamriel, it still resembles a dark-age medieval society. The nords in skyrim have a sort of Holy Roman Empire set up too where the jarls (kings/queens) meet in a 'moot' where they have a sort of confederation of kingdoms and elect a high king/queen/jarl.

free labor hardly exists and really the only elements of free labor that do exist are mercenaries/sellswords. even the miners and so on for the mst part are tied to the mines.

but it seems things are progressing too. you will encounter a nord in Solitude who basically has the mindset of a new middle class. a Tamrielic bourgeoisie*. if there were a faction surrounding him then it would be the most progressive. though its not about nationalities for him, its about money, and at that point in time, it is the next step towards bourgeois democracy and the abolition of feudalism. at that point, the stormcloaks would be utterly reactionary.



as for the forsworn, i wish i could fight for them too. think of them as the Kurds. in Iraq, Iran, or Turkey.



*could the kajitti traders be a new bourgeoisie as well?


PS on the issue of the bourgeoisie/middle class in Tamriel, there has always existed a section of small shop owners and traders. very rarely, if ever, do you see a tradesman or a professional laborer.

[o well this is ok I guess]

I wonder: would it be a bannable offence on here to call Dark elves greyskins?

[Rusty Shackleford]

I wonder: would it be a bannable offence on here to call Dark elves greyskins?
well, since we are virtually time travelling commies now, it should be a bannable offense. principles should not be lost in the issue of proletarian unity or class unity. even when dealing with fictional feudal-magickal society.

[bcbm]

free labor hardly exists and really the only elements of free labor that do exist are mercenaries/sellswords. even the miners and so on for the mst part are tied to the mines.

i think the elder scrolls largely skirts around the class issues of a feudal society. outside of morrowind, there isn't a clear 'slavery' issue, most of the peasants don't seem to be serfs but rather idk kulaks, self-employed and relatively comfortable peasants who are independent and not explicitly tied to a lord. lots of indepedent shop-owners.


but it seems things are progressing too. you will encounter a nord in Solitude who basically has the mindset of a new middle class. a Tamrielic bourgeoisie*. if there were a faction surrounding him then it would be the most progressive. though its not about nationalities for him, its about money, and at that point in time, it is the next step towards bourgeois democracy and the abolition of feudalism. at that point, the stormcloaks would be utterly reactionary.

it strikes me as at a point where bourgeois democracy could exist, its just they feel the need to keep with the fantasy setting so monarchy prevails. while the fable games are generally weaker story wise i thought this was something they dealt with in an interesting way, monarchy responding to industrial development or w/e. i guess yeah its worth noting a lot of places more developed than skyrim were monarchies until relatively late.

i'd like to know more about the dwemer and their society given their industrialism


as for the forsworn, i wish i could fight for them too. think of them as the Kurds. in Iraq, Iran, or Turkey.

i view them as any indigenous population during colonial expansion or well maybe more like american indians because their conquest was centuries earlier but they still fight? idk


*could the kajitti traders be a new bourgeoisie as well?

interesting idea but id on't think so, at least not in skyrim they seem more like romani or something, spending most of the time on the road and probably barely breaking even while facing intense discrimination, any owner class would arise from the existing citiy markets ithink



PS on the issue of the bourgeoisie/middle class in Tamriel, there has always existed a section of small shop owners and traders. very rarely, if ever, do you see a tradesman or a professional laborer.

well skyrim adds the woodcutters who are common and seem realtively well off, you have or had professional mages, there are the professional thieves and assassins of course, then well off peasants, stable owners, miners might be an exception though a lot operate in different circumstances as with the orc strongholds... probably more bandits than law abiding citizens.... basically tamriel economy probably shouldnt be analyzed lol

[o well this is ok I guess]

well, since we are virtually time travelling commies now, it should be a bannable offense. principles should not be lost in the issue of proletarian unity or class unity. even when dealing with fictional feudal-magickal society. Can I write off my Stormcloak involvement as entryism

[Ele'ill]

in the context of the times, its the only real progressive option to side with the stormcloaks.


if it took place in the 1900s then the stormcloaks, if they still did this(the whole gray quarter evil elves ruining our pure nordic culture whatevs), may not be the most progressive option, and neither would the colonizer.


looking at society in 4E 201 Tamriel, it still resembles a dark-age medieval society. The nords in skyrim have a sort of Holy Roman Empire set up too where the jarls (kings/queens) meet in a 'moot' where they have a sort of confederation of kingdoms and elect a high king/queen/jarl.

free labor hardly exists and really the only elements of free labor that do exist are mercenaries/sellswords. even the miners and so on for the mst part are tied to the mines.

but it seems things are progressing too. you will encounter a nord in Solitude who basically has the mindset of a new middle class. a Tamrielic bourgeoisie*. if there were a faction surrounding him then it would be the most progressive. though its not about nationalities for him, its about money, and at that point in time, it is the next step towards bourgeois democracy and the abolition of feudalism. at that point, the stormcloaks would be utterly reactionary.



as for the forsworn, i wish i could fight for them too. think of them as the Kurds. in Iraq, Iran, or Turkey.



*could the kajitti traders be a new bourgeoisie as well?


PS on the issue of the bourgeoisie/middle class in Tamriel, there has always existed a section of small shop owners and traders. very rarely, if ever, do you see a tradesman or a professional laborer.

:bored:

[Ele'ill]

Holy crap you all, it's just a game.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Holy crap you all, it's just a game. THat's just what the THALMOR want you to believe
Before they SLAUGHTER YOUR BEAUTIFUL NORD FAMILY

[bcbm]

Holy crap you all, it's just a game.

yeah well i get bored sometimes and overthink random shit while my magicka is recharging ok

[Rusty Shackleford]

i think the elder scrolls largely skirts around the class issues of a feudal society. outside of morrowind, there isn't a clear 'slavery' issue, most of the peasants don't seem to be serfs but rather idk kulaks, self-employed and relatively comfortable peasants who are independent and not explicitly tied to a lord. lots of indepedent shop-owners.
yeah.



it strikes me as at a point where bourgeois democracy could exist, its just they feel the need to keep with the fantasy setting so monarchy prevails. while the fable games are generally weaker story wise i thought this was something they dealt with in an interesting way, monarchy responding to industrial development or w/e. i guess yeah its worth noting a lot of places more developed than skyrim were monarchies until relatively late.
places more developed than skyrim? and yeah, i dont know if i want the the elder scrolls to try to do a bourgeois revolution as a core of the game. though it would be possibly awesome, it could turn to shit.

it may be another Mehrunes Dagon centric game if they did such a thing.



i'd like to know more about the dwemer and their society given their industrialismi wonder the same thing.



i view them as any indigenous population during colonial expansion or well maybe more like american indians because their conquest was centuries earlier but they still fight? idklooking at UESP, the Forsworn seem to be part of the Breton diaspora. Bretons come from Highrock though and the Nords are not actually indigenous to Skyrim (they came from farther north 4 eras earlier or something) so who got their 'first' as humans is unknown. shit. lore time.



interesting idea but id on't think so, at least not in skyrim they seem more like romani or something, spending most of the time on the road and probably barely breaking even while facing intense discrimination, any owner class would arise from the existing citiy markets ithinkromani is more accurate, you are right about that.




well skyrim adds the woodcutters who are common and seem realtively well off, you have or had professional mages, there are the professional thieves and assassins of course, then well off peasants, stable owners, miners might be an exception though a lot operate in different circumstances as with the orc strongholds... probably more bandits than law abiding citizens.... basically tamriel economy probably shouldnt be analyzed lol



aaaaah i completely forgot about them! true that, free labor does exist to some extent. but yeah, if it were actually real, it would be a miracle that these societies are actually able to maintain themselves in any manner. indeed there are more outlaws than there are law-abiding people hahaha

[Rusty Shackleford]

Holy crap you all, it's just a game.
what, so i cant enjoy my time off from work(wage labor and party work)?

[Ele'ill]

I used to get this involved in video games when I was about eight years old but then I took an arrow in the knee.

[o well this is ok I guess]

I used to get this involved in video games when I was about eight years old but then I took an arrow in the knee. Now my cousin is out slaying dragons in skyrim and what do I get? Revleft.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I used to get this involved in video games when I was about eight years old but then I took an arrow in the knee.
to be fair, i havent actually been able to sit down and just play for weeks now.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

to be fair, i havent actually been able to sit down and just play for weeks now.

My playing schedule has been around a half an hour every other day.I don't play much in the way of video games anymore.

[Rusty Shackleford]

yeah. for a while i was getting up extra early so i could play for an hour or so before work but it just became exhausting.

[bcbm]

places more developed than skyrim?

fable iii takes place during an industrial revolution in whatever the fuck the country is called, albion? and theres some 'imperial' issues and you're basically like a kaiser or czar in the 19th century but with magic and watered down bullshit so it isn't that cool


and yeah, i dont know if i want the the elder scrolls to try to do a bourgeois revolution as a core of the game. though it would be possibly awesome, it could turn to shit.

it may be another Mehrunes Dagon centric game if they did such a thing.

i'd like to see some advances, maybe not to that point but i think the alternative universe allows for different things, obvs feudal tamriel isn't feudal europe- more egalitarian in terms of races and sexes, different class composition, etc- so you could do something interesting with more 'industrial' shit. i mean idk i think the lore stretches a bit like 'oh there have been humans and this shit for 8000 years and then as now we have a king and an empire and thats that' i thought skyrim tried to make it a little more 'real' but could be cooler



i wonder the same thing.

seriously hoping one of the expansions has more dwemer content. though i like morrowind dwemer better than skyrim, the ruins dont seem as cool/// though i still explore them all if i can


looking at UESP, the Forsworn seem to be part of the Breton diaspora. Bretons come from Highrock though and the Nords are not actually indigenous to Skyrim (they came from farther north 4 eras earlier or something) so who got their 'first' as humans is unknown. shit. lore time.

nords were part of the 'first humans to tamriel' expansion from um... some other stupid continent but actually there were already humans there of which the forsworn are a part, i mean what youre saying is basically the 'well they just came over the bering strait anywya' argument in tamriel heh

full disclosure, i spent an hour one time reading all the in game books i had collected:(


aaaaah i completely forgot about them! true that, free labor does exist to some extent. but yeah, if it were actually real, it would be a miracle that these societies are actually able to maintain themselves in any manner. indeed there are more outlaws than there are law-abiding people hahaha

major cities have like maybe two farms and a meadery to support them, and there are 8000 bandit outposts that actually seem to have a more functional existence if you went irl than the cities, besides that they just stand in random hallways for 23 hours a day

[bcbm]

to be fair, i havent actually been able to sit down and just play for weeks now.

i'm on vacation right now so i get extra time and my gf was out of toown for a few days before i left so i added some extra hours there... and i play before work sometimes... i dont play that much sometimes then sometimes i play a lot... idk its cheaper than being an alcoholic like i was before the game came out

[piet11111]

I sided with the stormcloaks because the Imperials wanted to cut my head off.

I am surprised that anyone would side with the Imperials after that.

[Rafiq]

the empire is quasi-feudal, a 'socialist' society would be quasi-maoist at best and more likely resemble something like the munster rebellion

Fuck that muntzer shit.

What we need is a Spartacus rebellion. After all the empire is modeled off ancient medditeranian empires.

And fuck a communist society in TES would be fucking boring. A never ending slave war would be fun though.

the civil war campaign in skyrim was the funnest shit ever.

I was a ninja arabian(hammerfell clothes) breton who duel wielded knifes and jumped off shit

[Rafiq]

the stormcloaks are fighting for national independence from imperialist, as with many such movements it is mired in racism and other reactionary ideologies but it is a feudal society so what can really be expected? it is still more progressive to pursue national independence than be yoked to an empire that is subservient to another empire and bans religious freedom. the stormcloaks are the most progressive option for the people of skyrim, outside of the reach, where we must support the forsworn struggle against genociide

No. The empire is more progessive, as they are the only ones who have a chance against the Thalmor.

if you beat the empire civil war quests, general tulius tells you the empire is going to prepare for war with the thalmor, now that the stormcloak problem is taken care of.

[rylasasin]

Fuck that muntzer shit.
And fuck a communist society in TES would be fucking boring. A never ending slave war would be fun though.


Actually I'd have to disagree. I actually seen a game (more acurately, a total conversion mod of a game) where a (proto)Socialist faction/uprising plot might work.

Ever play an Oblivion mod called "Nehrim" by any chance? In a nutshell the plot revolves around A faction of mages trying free a very powerful mage who's the equivalent to Lenin named Narathzul so people can have their own self-run democracy instead of being ruled by kings queens or gods, and then once that's done, overthrowing the puppet regime of bourgeois lightborn "gods" (Chancellor Barateon, who's a Hitler equivalent basically.) and then starting a Prole rebellion in the theocratic southream, and then slaying the forementioned bourgeois gods.)

Granted, they don't call it socialism or communism in that game/mod (though without any Karl Marx/Engels to specifically call it that, it's hardly surprising,) but its pretty damn close.

Speaking of, I find quite a few of the "new, innovative features" that Skyrim has they basically took from Nehrim (The leveling system to a degree, cooking, smithing, mining, improving weapons through a grindstone, etc. I've not used the enchanting system so I'm not sure if that's taken too or not.) as well as other mods and from fallout new vegas.

PS: Narathzul Arantheal >>> Ulfric Stormcloak.

[Commissar Rykov]

Ulfric Stormcloak is a Thalmor Agent...oh I guess I should say spoiler alert. Too late.:laugh:

[Rusty Shackleford]

Ulfric Stormcloak is a Thalmor Agent...oh I guess I should say spoiler alert. Too late.:laugh:
And lenin was supposedly a german agent!

[Commissar Rykov]

And lenin was supposedly a german agent!
Actually Ulfric is a Thalmor Spy if you go to the Thalmor Embassy you can find his Intelligence Dossier.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Actually Ulfric is a Thalmor Spy if you go to the Thalmor Embassy you can find his Intelligence Dossier.
yeah i read the dossier. though it seemed it was one of those realpolitik type alliances.

[bcbm]

Fuck that muntzer shit.

muntzer was dead by the time of the munster rebellion.


What we need is a Spartacus rebellion. After all the empire is modeled off ancient medditeranian empires. there are no slaves or even serfs, the peasantry is independent from the look of things, and there is a sizable middle class of merchants, skilled crafts and the like. the look is romanesque but i think they're closer to an early mercantile european monarchy like england hence the east empire company


Speaking of, I find quite a few of the "new, innovative features" that Skyrim has they basically took from Nehrim (The leveling system to a degree, cooking, smithing, mining, improving weapons through a grindstone, etc. I've not used the enchanting system so I'm not sure if that's taken too or not.) as well as other mods and from fallout new vegas.um almost all of those things are pretty common in rpgs

[Ele'ill]

Fuck skyrim I'm playing bf3

[bcbm]

fuck you

[GatesofLenin]

I think I'm the only member here that hasn't tried Skyrim yet. :cool:

[Rafiq]

Bcbm u ever been to the slave labor mines?

[Rafiq]

Also you know what Skyrim needs?



Wands.

[ColonelCossack]

I think it should incorporate creepers. :P

[bcbm]

Bcbm u ever been to the slave labor mines?

in markarth? i broke out of those motherfuckers please ain't no prison can hold me


Also you know what Skyrim needs?



Wands.no.

i hate that the staffs dont go on your back like a 2 handed weapon in this one, what a bunch of bs. double wielding staffs makes me feel like badass gandalf in that one movie though. thought college quest was too short by far, i desire more magic action

[Rusty Shackleford]

Also you know what Skyrim needs?



Wands.
Wabbajack.

[Commissar Rykov]

Wabbajack.

It made me want to reinstall the Shivering Isles expansion.

[Rusty Shackleford]

i desire more magic action
Protip: Skooma

[Ele'ill]

Hey everyone. A brief question about Skyrim. Can you crash helicopters into your teammates? No you can't. That's because it isn't bf3.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Hey everyone. A brief question about Skyrim. Can you crash helicopters into your teammates? No you can't. That's because it isn't bf3.
hey, Mari3L a brief question about Bf3. why isnt it Skyrim?

[bcbm]

Hey everyone. A brief question about Skyrim. Can you crash helicopters into your teammates? No you can't. That's because it isn't bf3.

hey in bf3 can you take an arrow in the knee? no you can't. that's because it isn't skyrim

[Ele'ill]

In bf3, you already took an arrow in the knee.

[Rusty Shackleford]

In bf3, you already took an arrow in the knee.
at least in Skyrim you get to be an adventurer first.

[Ele'ill]

at least in Skyrim you get to be an adventurer first.


At least in bf3, it isn't Skryrim.

[Ele'ill]

I'm just saying Skyrim has the same graphics as morrowind and an even more linear non explorable world. It's just boring. Where as in bf3 you can crash helicopters into teammates.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I'm just saying Skyrim has the same graphics as morrowind and an even more linear non explorable world. It's just boring. Where as in bf3 you can crash helicopters into teammates.
im just saying BF3 has the same graphics as BFBC and an even less destructible world.

at least in Skyrim, wabbajack.

[Ele'ill]

im just saying BF3 has the same graphics as BFBC and an even less destructible world.

at least in Skyrim, wabbajack.

Yeah, we'll make this weapon that doesn't know how to interact with the environment at all because we're shitty coders and get away with it by naming it something cute like wabbajack.

bf3 has bullet drop.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Yeah, we'll make this weapon that doesn't know how to interact with the environment at all because we're shitty coders and get away with it by naming it something cute like wabbajack.

bf3 has bullet drop.
Skyrim has Arrow Drop

[Ele'ill]

Skyrim has Arrow Drop

You mean 'arrow glitch'

[Commissar Rykov]

I'm just saying Skyrim has the same graphics as morrowind and an even more linear non explorable world. It's just boring. Where as in bf3 you can crash helicopters into teammates.
It doesn't have the same graphics as Morrowind. It has similar graphics to Fallout 3 and Oblivion but not Morrowind.:confused:

[Rafiq]

They should make staffs 2 handed and make wands with the current staff animations.

What wands will do (depending on material, ebony, daedric, glass etc.) is use your current spell with less magicka or something.

Bcbm slaves exist in skyrim therefore spartacus.

[bcbm]

Bcbm slaves exist in skyrim therefore spartacus.

where?

[Rafiq]

where?

Markarth and other mines

[Ele'ill]

So I drank and played bf3 on a Rush server and I fucked up the same five people several times from like 800 yards away and they accused me of cheating and camping. Their logic is that I should equip the sniper kit but then not use the sniper rifle scope and just run around impotently firing at them so that they can easily kill me. Then I attacked our tank with an rpg and quit.

[bcbm]

Markarth and other mines

all of the other mines are part of orc strongholds or run by independent laborers. markarth is a prison colony, and has an 'uprising' quest anyway...

[piet11111]

I'm just saying Skyrim has the same graphics as morrowind

I think you need glasses and/or a PC upgrade

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/morrowind_031502_003.jpg

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/galleries/2011-02-08/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-screenshots-2082011/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-screenshots-2082011_1297198753.jpeg


and an even more linear non explorable world.

There is still tons of stuff to do in Skyrim though it does seem to be smaller then Morrowind in terms of content.

[Rafiq]

Piet you know what's funny is that that's the upgarded morrowind retexture to make it look nice. Actually morrowind looks like shit.

[Rafiq]

Also, I don't want to be political, but notice how we Marxists don't lie when we say art is a reflection of the conditons of society.

I mean look at the situation in skyrim. The empire is crumbling and society is crumbling. Isn't that what's going on now? We can even analyse morrowind and oblivion in the same sense, the empire and the structure was strong, but there were things that needed to be repelled ("terrorists" = Mythic dawn). And then in skyrim, things are falling apart, the return of the "dragons" was the return of the economic meltdown, etc.

Ah maybe I'm wrong. But it';s interesting


You can even tell with the theme songs, look at the transition from Oblivion to Skyrim:

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[Comrade J]

Haven't had a PS3 for 5 months cause I've been wandering about in Europe, but in a month or so I am back and will get this game. I don't wanna be a reactionary character, I wanna be able to free people and shit and use magic, so any recommendations on what sorta character I should be? From what I hear the Empire is obviously oppressive, but then some of the rebels have slaves? Aaagh dunno what I will pick.

[Rafiq]

Haven't had a PS3 for 5 months cause I've been wandering about in Europe, but in a month or so I am back and will get this game. I don't wanna be a reactionary character, I wanna be able to free people and shit and use magic, so any recommendations on what sorta character I should be? From what I hear the Empire is obviously oppressive, but then some of the rebels have slaves? Aaagh dunno what I will pick.

It's just a game.

My character is a breton who has one eye gauged out with a badass lenin beard with a buzz cut who has a big axe.

I don't free people. I murder everyone. Also I joined the Imperials because when you beat the civil war campaign for the stormcloaks, the only people in Skyrim are storm cloaks.

You can't have a good TES game without imperial soldiers. It makes you feel more connected with the rest of the empire. That's why I killed ulfric fuckface

[Ele'ill]

I think you need glasses and/or a PC upgrade


Yup, they look the same.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Skyrim has Arrow Drop

What's "Arrow Drop"?

[Leonid Brozhnev]

What's "Arrow Drop"?

Its what happens before an adventurers knee becomes a guards knee

[Tim Cornelis]

Also, I don't want to be political, but notice how we Marxists don't lie when we say art is a reflection of the conditons of society.

I mean look at the situation in skyrim. The empire is crumbling and society is crumbling. Isn't that what's going on now? We can even analyse morrowind and oblivion in the same sense, the empire and the structure was strong, but there were things that needed to be repelled ("terrorists" = Mythic dawn). And then in skyrim, things are falling apart, the return of the "dragons" was the return of the economic meltdown, etc.

Ah maybe I'm wrong. But it';s interesting



If you're right, video games in communism will be boring as fuck.

The first thing you said may (and I repeat may) be correct, but the thing about dragons returning being symbolic for the economic meltdown is not.

[Drosophila]

Oblivion and Morrowind were a lot better, in my opinion. Mainly because of how much crap there was to do, and the huge variety in items. Seems like everyone in Skyrim has the same loot.

[Rafiq]

If you're right, video games in communism will be boring as fuck.

The first thing you said may (and I repeat may) be correct, but the thing about dragons returning being symbolic for the economic meltdown is not.

Well no, communism will still have struggles and problems. But the point not that the story is modeled off of how society looks, rather it's heavily influenced as to the situation it is in.

Games in communism will be similiar to oblivion/morrowind, peaceful and serene, stable. I mean of coarse there is a lot of exceptions (games modeled off of the situations of th lebpast).

But the dragons represent a destruction of Fukiyamas end times, the destruction of this naive postmodern view that things will go on the way they are forever.

So yes, it's more than the economic crisis, but it's there.

[Rafiq]

Btw, that is not to say bethesda did it on purpose, which they did not. It's like understanding it with psychoanalysis

Also, GTA 5 being about the crisis too

[Ele'ill]

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[Ele'ill]

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[Ele'ill]

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