Orthodox Marxism and Marxism-Leninism

[ComradeNarwhal]

Can anyone explain the differences between Orthodox Marxism/Marxism and Marxism-Leninism, as well as just Leninism?
I know that 'Marxism-Leninism' was a term coined by Stalin, correct?
But, what differentiates it from Leninism, or is it the same?
Also, Lenin believed that you can transition directly to communism, whereas Marx believed you would first transcend from capitalism to socialism? Right?
Anyone clarify this for me?:confused:

[Die Neue Zeit]

Lenin was an Orthodox Marxist. Orthodox Marxism:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/marxism-classical-vs-t161893/index.html

[mrmikhail]

Can anyone explain the differences between Orthodox Marxism/Marxism and Marxism-Leninism, as well as just Leninism?
I know that 'Marxism-Leninism' was a term coined by Stalin, correct?
But, what differentiates it from Leninism, or is it the same?
Also, Lenin believed that you can transition directly to communism, whereas Marx believed you would first transcend from capitalism to socialism? Right?
Anyone clarify this for me?:confused:

Leninism is Orthodox Marxism (as is Trotskyism), Marxist-Leninism is most associated with Stalinists. I would expand on this, but it would be quite at the risk of setting off a shitstorm of the Trotsky-Stalinist pissing contest which I'd rather not begin.

and no, Lenin believed Russia needed to go to limited Capitalism (look up the New Economic Plan) before it could advance to socialism, and finally to communism, just as Marx had said

[Rusty Shackleford]

Lenin and the NEP.

Lenin promoted the NEP because of the disastrous effects of imperialist and civil war. Had there been no civil war, the NEP may not have been necessary. It was viewed as a retreat and not promoted as a movement forward.

The main purpose was for the economy to get back on its feet which also meant lessened restrictions on internal markets but at the same time economic sovereignty was enforced to prevent the wealthier peasants and so on from making connections or getting benefits from imperialists.

[Ballyfornia]

I always thought Orthodox Marxists rejected the idea of a vanguard? That Orthodox Marxism would be more in line with luxemburgism?

[Rooster]

Can anyone explain the differences between Orthodox Marxism/Marxism and Marxism-Leninism, as well as just Leninism?

Marxism is the ideology named after Marx. Marxism-leninism is the ideology of the USSR (which most argue has little to do with Marxism itself). Leninism is what people called Lenin's theories but Lenin didn't use that himself. I think he just considered himself to be a Marxist. Leninism was coined by Stalin, I believe.


I know that 'Marxism-Leninism' was a term coined by Stalin, correct?I don't think he did. But the ideology of it was created by Stalin and the party when he was in power.


But, what differentiates it from Leninism, or is it the same?I guess you could say that Leninism is the ideology of Lenin (after the fact) and marxism-leninism is the ideology of the USSR. That does not mean they are the same (see Lenin's State and Revolution).


Also, Lenin believed that you can transition directly to communism, whereas Marx believed you would first transcend from capitalism to socialism? Right?I don't think that's quite the correct way to put it. That views Russia and the Russian proletariat in isolation, detached from the whole world and it's productive capabilities. And that's what it's about, productive ability. The world was ready for socialism, not just the Russian proletariat itself because it was small and in a backwards nation, but the world was ready for it, as a whole. This is why the Bolsheviks were hoping that the revolution would spread and I think a bunch of them were expecting it too because they saw things in an international way. Also, that assumes that Russia at the time was not capitalist. Anyway, that's not the main point I'm making.