Michelle Bachmann: The Unemployed Should Starve

[MattShizzle]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/08/michele-bachmann-says-if-you-are-unemployed-you-should-starve/

Reactionary Teabag idiot. She has almost no chance of winning. This sort of policy likely WOULD bring revolution!


Yesterday morning during a speech at the Family Research Council in Washington, Michele Bachmann bashed the unemployed in perhaps the most heartless way possible. After vowing to weaken social safety net programs such as Social Security, Medicare, food stamps, and unemployment benefits, Bachmann said that if you are currently not working, you should not be eating.
“Our nation needs to stop doing for people what they can and should do for themselves. Self reliance means, if anyone will not work, neither should he eat.”

:rolleyes:

[xub3rn00dlex]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/08/michele-bachmann-says-if-you-are-unemployed-you-should-starve/

Reactionary Teabag idiot. She has almost no chance of winning. This sort of policy likely WOULD bring revolution!



:rolleyes:

Is campaigning considered a job? I thought it was more of a resume kinda thing? If this is true... then what the fuck is she doing eating?

[PC LOAD LETTER]

All I can do anymore when any of these crazy right-wingers spout off bullshit like this is let out a depressed sigh ... and try not to think about how many people agree with them ...

[Ocean Seal]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/08/michele-bachmann-says-if-you-are-unemployed-you-should-starve/

Reactionary Teabag idiot. She has almost no chance of winning. This sort of policy likely WOULD bring revolution!



:rolleyes:
Why the fuck do the bourgeoisie eat so fucking much then?

[Azraella]

“Our nation needs to stop doing for people what they can and should do for themselves. Self reliance means, if anyone will not work, neither should he eat.”


Right... So tell me about the demographic that steals our money and welfare, only to accrue more capital and piss away finite resources?

[Robocommie]

Well that's fucking funny, Communists think the same thing. We just don't agree on who's able to work and who actually does work.

I wonder if Bachmann realizes that her last line there was very nearly a verbatim quote of Lenin?

But yet more, do any of these Tea Bag libertarian assholes realize how much they sound exactly like Ebeneezer Scrooge?

[Leftie]

I wonder if Bachmann realizes that her last line there was very nearly a verbatim quote of Lenin?


Its actually originally from the bible.

[Robocommie]

Its actually originally from the bible.

That's interesting, didn't know that.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

The reactionary contest: who can sounds more like a deluded,fanatical,fascistic,super-paranoid,racist fucktard?! ...I think we may have a winner....

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Bachman is very low in the polls right now so she's doing an "Ann Coulter", she's spouting the most bizarre lines possible in a gamble it'll reignite her campaign among the pettite bourgeoisie constituency she is trying to appeal to.

Also she is consciously or probably subconsciously working to increase the public acceptance of aSimon Legree mentality in mainstream political discourse. Twenty years ago her class whispered this in secret, now they more and more open about their desires.

I believe the quote in question comes from the Book of Matthew. "He who does not work, neither shall he eat".

[danyboy27]

i love when those right winger say that sort of thing, beccause after that how could they get at us for saying stuff like; lets toast the rich, kill the banker etc etc.

[The Jay]

That is disgusting, I assume she would tell poor people to eat their dogs if they're hungry.

[Tim Cornelis]

"He who does not work, neither shall he eat"

is indeed from the Bible, but wasn't it in the context of usury? Those, whom we now call bankers, do not work and therefore "shall not eat"?

Bachmann is hereby calling for mass killings, 10 percent of the US would die. And if her logic was applied to, say, Turkeministan 70% of the country's population would die.

[MattShizzle]

Lots of problems - including some already mentioned:
The Capitalist class doesn't actually "work"
There are those who CAN not work - due to disability or simply not being able to find work (not enough jobs for everyone)
The people who "will not work" may have families so she's saying their children should starve, too.

I hate this law of the jungle shit the Libertarians/teabaggers spout.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

The question is though why are they spouting this garbage at this particular time? What are the material conditions which make politicians trying to appeal to a certain layer feel they have to spout garbage which would not have been publicly acceptable 20 or even 10 years ago?

[GPDP]

The question is though why are they spouting this garbage at this particular time? What are the material conditions which make politicians trying to appeal to a certain layer feel they have to spout garbage which would not have been publicly acceptable 20 or even 10 years ago?

I think it's a matter of the line being sharply drawn in the class war as we speak. Like you said, twenty or even ten years ago, this would have been unacceptable. I believe this is due to Americans still riding the "we're all in this together" line, first from the fall of the USSR (as well as the economic boom of the 90's), then from 9/11.

Now that the high from those times is gone and it becomes more and more clear where interests lie (not in the interests of "the nation" but "the rich"), and workers are taking notice, the far-right has decided to drop the pretense of caring for the working man and instead cater exclusively to their real constituency. Of course, we all know they never cared for workers, but this time around, the gloves have come off and the rhetoric reflects that.

[Robocommie]

The question is though why are they spouting this garbage at this particular time? What are the material conditions which make politicians trying to appeal to a certain layer feel they have to spout garbage which would not have been publicly acceptable 20 or even 10 years ago?

I'd suggest that it's the War on Terror. Wars have a tendency to shock a nation's conscience and radically shift it's paradigm in one direction or another. I don't think it's any coincidence that this kind of radicalization began under George W. Bush and I think Obama in part entered office with the mistaken expectation that the old Clintonian liberalism would be enough.

[Per Levy]

“Our nation needs to stop doing for people what they can and should do for themselves. Self reliance means, if anyone will not work, neither should he eat.”

well then, lets go out and eat the rich.

[Iron Felix]

Well that's fucking funny, Communists think the same thing. We just don't agree on who's able to work and who actually does work.

I wonder if Bachmann realizes that her last line there was very nearly a verbatim quote of Lenin?

But yet more, do any of these Tea Bag libertarian assholes realize how much they sound exactly like Ebeneezer Scrooge?
My exact thoughts.

http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm


However, it persists as far as its other part is concerned; it persists in the capacity of regulator (determining factor) in the distribution of products and the allotment of labor among the members of society. The socialist principle, "He who does not work shall not eat", is already realized; the other socialist principle, "An equal amount of products for an equal amount of labor", is also already realized. But this is not yet communism, and it does not yet abolish "bourgeois law", which gives unequal individuals, in return for unequal (really unequal) amounts of labor, equal amounts of products.

This is how they they claim our vocabulary. But twist it first. The tragic irony.

[Agathor]

If this woman is elected there will be a revolution in about half an hour.

Even in the worst dictatorships, it's recognized that there has to be some sort of safety net. It's now becoming possible for popular and influential American politicians to propose things that would destroy the career of a Saudi Sheik.

[Os Cangaceiros]

The idea that the unemployed aren't working because they just won't work for some reason, that's not true at all.

[Robocommie]

The unemployed aren't not working because they just won't work for some reason, that's not true at all.

But it's so weird because that's actually what a lot of conservatives think is happening. Michelle Malkin and her fucking comments about if you keep putting down government cheese, people will keep eating it.

I have to imagine Michelle Malkin has never actually eaten government cheese. But this kind of asshole sentiment goes way back. Henry Ford once said that the average American worker will do anything to get out of having to work an honest day's labor.

These douchebags seem to think that it's only conservatives who actually find it gratifying to have some kind of job. I know I myself start to go a little insane after a week or two with nothing to do.

[La Comédie Noire]

Conservatives have this bizarre belief that there is a job for everyone in this economy and if we'd only take away social welfare programs the lazy would be forced to work. Usually they will justify this with some bastardization of Say's Law, though they aren't smart enough to know this, reading after all is a subtle art.

And as we know Marx and later Keynes danced circles around this supposed economic law.

Of course they still try and what has the last 30 years of austerity gotten us? Stagnation, poverty, violence, drug abuse, and unemployment. We have consistently left it up to markets for 30 years and nothing good has come of it. And you'll still have a few capitalist groupies telling us to be patient and that someday the good entrepreneur will take his savings and reinvest in our country. I feel bad for them really, it's like the abused spouse who thinks if she could only change herself in some way it would stop her husband from beating her. When in reality the flaw is in him and it has nothing to do with her.

Oh well, looks like they are going to try "a little more austerity." At least Michelle Bachmann is just being honest and telling us what capitalism has in store for the working poor and unemployed.

[MattShizzle]

The idea that the unemployed aren't working because they just won't work for some reason, that's not true at all.

That's a big part of right wing mythology in the US at least - the poor want to be poor because they're lazy and don't want to work. The rich are rich because they worked hard to get that way and so can anyone who's willing to work. If a business underpays or treats its employees badly they can always go work for someone else. Bleh. You have to be willfully ignorant or just plain stupid to believe that.

[GatesofLenin]

"He who does not work, neither shall he eat"

is indeed from the Bible, but wasn't it in the context of usury? Those, whom we now call bankers, do not work and therefore "shall not eat"?

Bachmann is hereby calling for mass killings, 10 percent of the US would die. And if her logic was applied to, say, Turkeministan 70% of the country's population would die.

Heard on Bill Maher show, over 48 million US citizens are on food stamps currently. Yikes! :(

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Heard on Bill Maher show, over 48 million US citizens are on food stamps currently. Yikes! :(
That's about 15% of the US. It's got to be going up.

I know ... 11 people on food stamps who I interact with on a regular basis (including co-workers). There are 6 more I know (not including myself) who'll be on them soon.

[xub3rn00dlex]

During her next big speech, I say we ought to lob some fucking food at her. Shit we should be starving, let her fucking have it all.

[Die Neue Zeit]

I believe the quote in question comes from the Book of Matthew. "He who does not work, neither shall he eat".


"He who does not work, neither shall he eat"

is indeed from the Bible, but wasn't it in the context of usury? Those, whom we now call bankers, do not work and therefore "shall not eat"?

Neither. It's in the New Testament book of 2 Thessalonians, and I believe the context was religious ministers being role models (oh, the irony):

For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone’s food without paying for it. On the contrary, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. We did this, not because we do not have the right to such help, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you to imitate. For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. And as for you, brothers and sisters, never tire of doing what is good.

Here's a paper explaining the context:

http://lin.ca/Uploads/cclr11/CCLR11-57.pdf

[Revy]

And Michele Bachmann has an estimated net worth of $1 million.

[Spets]

There is a Republican Presidential debate coming to my town, maybe I can see if the occupy people will do something.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

As disgusting as the Republicans are, and they are truly vile, the Occupy movement has to resist the temptation of the politics of lesser evilism.The Occupy movement should not orient itself towards the media election circus at all, but ignore it, utterly. The Republican debates have as much relevance to my life as the Kardashians and are just as much of a diversion crafted by the multi-billion dollar entertainment industry.Beware of giving any tacit support to the Dems. They are a far more insidious enemy than the current crop of republipuke crazies.

The mic check of Scott Walker was great. The same should be done with Rahm Emmanuel. Let's ignore the "primaries"

[RedZezz]

The conservative line is very contradictory this year.

Well, I suppose it has always been so, but this year it seems their platform is:

"Vote Republican so we can create jobs"
"Obama is destroying jobs in America."
"Because of Obama, there are no jobs."
"People without jobs are lazy."
"People without jobs deserve to die."

[NewLeft]

"I am prochoice.. when it comes to lightbulbs."
Michelle Bachmann 2012!

[Pretty Flaco]

Self reliance means, if anyone will not work, neither should he eat.

Yeah, most people who are unemployed are not working on purpose. :rolleyes:

[Jennifer]

Here's a perfect campaign slogan for Bimbo Bachmann: "Let them eat cake!"

[piet11111]

There is a Republican Presidential debate coming to my town, maybe I can see if the occupy people will do something.

Make a "eat the 1%" sign :thumbup1:

[∞]

Although homeless people produce no economic benefit to society.

Politicians produce a negative impact on society.

Homeless people>Politicians.

[Zostrianos]

These right wing bastards believe that social programs and help for the needy will create a nation of lazy freeloaders and criminals.
If that's true Miss Bachmann, answer me this:
Why is the US (the great capitalist paradise) ravaged by crime and poverty, while leftist countries in northern Europe (that people like yourself love to attack and denigrate) have virtually none of those problems?
Hmmm? :rolleyes:

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

I have to imagine Michelle Malkin has never actually eaten government cheese. But this kind of asshole sentiment goes way back. Henry Ford once said that the average American worker will do anything to get out of having to work an honest day's labor.

Was it Malkin that had some family farm that received more than 300,000 dollars a year in subsidies? One of those ones had, perhaps it was Bachmann, but it's very common at any rate. So, they do love the government cheese (obviously!), they just don't want to share it.

[RebelDog]

Vote for me and I will push to have millions of US citizens will die of starvation. She is unfeeling scum and they want us all to be the same.

[MattShizzle]

Response from a reactionary on another site:

Nonsense. She said those who WILL not work should not eat, referring to the excess of government welfare for those slothful and lazy colored folk, hillbillies, 3rd world immigrant peasants, and students who wish to bind the the tax payer to more involuntary servitude.

Of course, I've always thought the best solution is to bring back county poorhouses - put them in barracks, and put em to work. Up at 5am, a bowl of oatmeal and then out to the fields to join legal immigrant labor in picking tomatos, lettuce, etc.

After a good hard day in the sun (or rain), back to the barracks for some mandatory education, a hamburger dinner, then an hour of TV in the rec room and then to bed.

Give them Sundays off to do their laundry, etc.

A year or two of the poor house will motivate them to do better.

and my response

No it will motivate them to REVOLUTION. And what about those who refuse? Or those not capable of hard labor like that?

[Marxaveli]

Conservatives have this bizarre belief that there is a job for everyone in this economy and if we'd only take away social welfare programs the lazy would be forced to work. Usually they will justify this with some bastardization of Say's Law, though they aren't smart enough to know this, reading after all is a subtle art.

And as we know Marx and later Keynes danced circles around this supposed economic law.

Of course they still try and what has the last 30 years of austerity gotten us? Stagnation, poverty, violence, drug abuse, and unemployment. We have consistently left it up to markets for 30 years and nothing good has come of it. And you'll still have a few capitalist groupies telling us to be patient and that someday the good entrepreneur will take his savings and reinvest in our country. I feel bad for them really, it's like the abused spouse who thinks if she could only change herself in some way it would stop her husband from beating her. When in reality the flaw is in him and it has nothing to do with her.

Oh well, looks like they are going to try "a little more austerity." At least Michelle Bachmann is just being honest and telling us what capitalism has in store for the working poor and unemployed.

Conservatism is just a short way of saying "I suffer from Stockholm Syndrome". :lol:

[Manic Impressive]

I'd have pointed out the contradiction of his statement. As those who "don't want" to work being forced to work is "involuntary servitude". He should make up his mind for or against involuntary servitude

[MattShizzle]

There's also the racism in his statement...

[VivaCastro]

All I can do anymore when any of these crazy right-wingers spout off bullshit like this is let out a depressed sigh ... and try not to think about how many people agree with them ...

to be fair on this one, i dont even think most right-wingers would agree with her

[MattShizzle]

BTW both she and Herman Cain said they would bring back the use of waterboarding (ie torturing terrorism SUSPECTS) if elected.

[Franz Fanonipants]

that workhouse deal don't sound so bad i mean i wouldn't have to pay rent and utilities and an hour of tv a day is more than i currently have time for so

[GatesofLenin]

That's about 15% of the US. It's got to be going up.

I know ... 11 people on food stamps who I interact with on a regular basis (including co-workers). There are 6 more I know (not including myself) who'll be on them soon.

I want to punch people that spew garbage like "living the American Dream". Dream as in can't find work, can't feed yourself, no medical coverage, no roof over your head, etc... some dream! :cursing:

[ColonelCossack]

That would result in the deaths of more people than Stalin allegedly "killed".

The allegedly being, like, 20 million... what right wingers say...

[∞]

Considering unemployed have 0 impact on society but politicians have a negative impact.

According Bachman logic, we should take food away from politicians.

[Blake's Baby]

Yeah exactly - the unemployed say 'Bachmann should starve'.