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Broletariat
5th November 2011, 17:54
http://www.alcor.org/
What's the deal with this and stuff, seems a little curious.
Susurrus
5th November 2011, 17:59
The rich may live on to exploit in the future.
Broletariat
5th November 2011, 18:01
The rich may live on to exploit in the future.
Oh but it's not just for the rich, you can name Alcor as the beneficiary of your life insurance policy to pay for it.
lol
tir1944
5th November 2011, 18:04
It'd be really cool if some rich capitalist "unfroze" some 200 years from now,only to realize that's in Communism.:D
We should really keep those people in their fridges for the future generations.
Susurrus
5th November 2011, 18:07
It'd be really cool if some rich capitalist "unfroze" some 200 years from now,only to realize that's in Communism.:D
We should really keep those people in their fridges for the future generations.
That will be a hit tv-show in Communism.
Broletariat
6th November 2011, 03:28
But yea, aside from the whole obvious part that only the rich can really enjoy it or whatever.
How practical/feasible is the idea behind the project.
Yazman
6th November 2011, 10:24
Put simply, it's not feasible at all. Even Alcor admits on their site that it isn't:
Although cryonics is not reversible today, the eventual perfection of cryonics will be of great value to fields such as medicine and space travel.
Alcor intervenes in the dying process as soon as possible after legal death to preserve the brain as well as possible. (Emphasis mine)
piet11111
6th November 2011, 12:19
The freezing process pretty much destroys the cells and all you have left are corpsesickles
Broletariat
6th November 2011, 13:55
Isn't the idea that eventually they find ways to reverse it though?
The Vegan Marxist
6th November 2011, 21:25
I plan on giving this a shot. If immortality isn't achieved in my lifetime, I'll have Alcor as my backup.
Yazman
8th November 2011, 06:31
Isn't the idea that eventually they find ways to reverse it though?
That's the idea, yeah, but given that they only preserve people immediately after (and not before) death, they would essentially have to find a way to cure death itself imo.
Furthermore bringing people out of stasis would involve having a method that people could be brought out of in the first place - most cryonic methods are not reversible at the moment. So new techniques for preservation would need to be developed in order to bring people out of stasis, meaning that currently preserved people are unlikely to be able to be brought out of stasis, and this is ignoring the fact that they're dead anyway.
For the record I don't actually oppose cryonics, I just think that it shouldn't be practiced until people can be reliably brought in and out of suspension. Because right now they're basically just preserving dead bodies.
mrmikhail
8th November 2011, 09:38
The freezing process pretty much destroys the cells and all you have left are corpsesickles
That isn't quite true, they use a flash freezing process that essentially preserves all cells/tissue/organs/ect. The part that destroys the cells is the thawing process, as of now they cannot thaw you fast enough, thus destroying your body/killing you.
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