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Tim Cornelis
5th November 2011, 13:12
A while ago a Chinese girl was run over by two cars and no one stopped (http://www.revleft.com/vb/unbe-fucking-lieveable-t162829/index.html?t=162829)

Now a woman had jumped unto a highway and the wounded woman was left there, no one stopped to help her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdSrbVpP3VQ&
IdSrbVpP3VQ

Unbelievable.

Nox
5th November 2011, 15:51
It's a mixture of the bystander effect, and a fear that the woman will sue them if they help her (this happens alot in china)

Ocean Seal
5th November 2011, 16:28
This happens in a lot of countries, and I don't think that "moral bankruptcy" is the reason.

tir1944
5th November 2011, 16:37
This happens in a lot of countries
Not as often though,and in most of Europe it's punishable by law not to help someone who's had an accident etc.


and I don't think that "moral bankruptcy" is the reason.
What is the reason then?

Ocean Seal
5th November 2011, 16:55
Not as often though,and in most of Europe it's punishable by law not to help someone who's had an accident etc.

In America this happens quite a bit though.



What is the reason then?
As Nox said, it probably the bystander effect, alienation from one's fellow man, among other reasons. Most people don't help because they feel that the consequences might be worse for them if they do. I don't think that anyone genuinely wants to let the person die or writhe in pain, its just group psychology.

Thirsty Crow
5th November 2011, 17:33
As Nox said, it probably the bystander effect, alienation from one's fellow man, among other reasons. Most people don't help because they feel that the consequences might be worse for them if they do. I don't think that anyone genuinely wants to let the person die or writhe in pain, its just group psychology.
There's also the phenomenon known as the diffusion of responsibility. In short, people sometimes tend to assume, in such circumstances and similar ones, that somebody esle will surely act and help the person out, thereby removing the need for themselves to do it.

Iron Felix
5th November 2011, 17:45
In this case to "help" the woman would be to help her finish what she started. At least they didn't do that.

Ocean Seal
5th November 2011, 19:57
In this case to "help" the woman would be to help her finish what she started. At least they didn't do that.
Yes, that's a good point. It makes me understand more Nox's post regarding why she would be able to sue them. Yes, this particular occurrence is quite different from the other one.

piet11111
5th November 2011, 22:50
If those people actually understand its an attempted suicide i would expect that they would be too shocked by that before actually getting around to the question about her needing any help.
And by that time they probably have driven a mile away and since turning around on a highway is a terrible idea i really cant blame them here.

Zealot
5th November 2011, 22:55
Can anyone here translate what was said in the video?

Smyg
5th November 2011, 22:56
Not attempting to save someone can be written off, driving over a little girl and then consciously doing it again to kill her can't.

piet11111
6th November 2011, 14:37
Not attempting to save someone can be written off, driving over a little girl and then consciously doing it again to kill her can't.

Well not trying to help someone should also be a crime but in this case stopping a car could result in a massive pile up of cars and is simply too dangerous.

With first aid your first task is too look after your own safety then the victims safety.

Smyg
6th November 2011, 15:32
I just don't get what you mean.

Il Medico
6th November 2011, 20:05
A while ago a Chinese girl was run over by two cars and no one stopped (http://www.revleft.com/vb/unbe-fucking-lieveable-t162829/index.html?t=162829)

Now a woman had jumped unto a highway and the wounded woman was left there, no one stopped to help her.



Unbelievable.



28 year-old Genovese was stabbed to death on March 13, 1964, on her way back to her Queens, New York, apartment from work at 3am by a serial rapist and murderer. According to newspaper accounts, the attack lasted for at least a half an hour during which time Genovese screamed and pleaded for help. The murderer attacked Genovese and stabbed her, then fled the scene after attracting the attention of a neighbor. The killer then returned ten minutes later and finished the assault. Newspaper reports after Genovese's death claimed that 38 witnesses watched the stabbings and failed to intervene or even contact the police until after the attacker fled and Genovese had died.


In June 2008 a woman collapsed in a Brooklyn hospital waiting room, but was ignored by other people present in the room and two security guards. People tried to help her only after an hour had passed. The woman died

or how bout this one:


"A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who both stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. By chance a certain priest was going down that way. When he saw him, he passed by on the other side. In the same way a Levite also, when he came to the place, and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he traveled, came where he was. When he saw him, he was moved with compassion, came to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. He set him on his own animal, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, and gave them to the host, and said to him, 'Take care of him. Whatever you spend beyond that, I will repay you when I return.' Now which of these three do you think seemed to be a neighbour to him who fell among the robbers?"

Above is the parable of the good Samaritan from the bible. Multiple people walk by the beaten and stripped man and do nothing before one finally helps him. Guess we can just chalk it up to the moral bankruptcy of first century Palestine. :rolleyes:

Really, its called the bystander effect and shit like this happens all the time, especially in heavily populated areas . It has nothing to do with the Chinese's "moral bankruptcy" or any of that shit. To say so is not only ignorant but borderline racist. I expect better from a leftist. :sleep:

#FF0000
7th November 2011, 17:43
Not as often though,and in most of Europe it's punishable by law not to help someone who's had an accident etc.


What is the reason then?

Maybe the fact that no such laws exist in China, and it is possible to get in trouble if you help someone?

Jesus what is wrong with you guys.