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Arlekino
5th November 2011, 00:51
Apparently fascist marched in Russia the numbers telling is about few thousands, scare me and worry.
Please look at video on one minute sadly is in Russian.
http://krasnoe.tv/node/11884

ВАЛТЕР
5th November 2011, 00:53
I'm sure their grandparents are proud of them....:(

mrmikhail
5th November 2011, 00:56
The BBC has an article on it in English. Apparently it's a general Nationalist march, even waving flags of the Imperial period and filled with racist chants, as well as chants against Putin's United Russia party and his form of authoritarianism, apparently the nationalists would rather have their own, possibly royal, racist and nationalist authoritarianism in power instead....

since I can't post a link yet I'll have to put it up in a non link form www(dot)bbc(dot)co(dot)uk/news/world-europe-15596400

Agathor
5th November 2011, 00:56
This happens all the time in Russia.

Arlekino
5th November 2011, 01:00
Seems I am or paranoid or some kind of danger coming in Russian and East Europe as well Ukraine. The elderly lady told me from Ukraina she complained in Ukraina are too nationalist society she get abuse only because she is Russian nationality, as well Baltic States seems going more and more far rights ideas.
So interesting to see other point of view or I am just making up to much or is reality Nazis are coming back?

ВАЛТЕР
5th November 2011, 01:02
I wouldn't feel bad for a second if the cops came out and just sprayed their asses with gunfire indiscriminately...

Only way to deal with Nazis is to terminate with extreme prejudice...

Anybody know how it came to this in Russia of all places? A nation who sacrificed so much to fend off the Nazis...

Искра
5th November 2011, 01:16
As far as I know Nazi movement in Russia is not strong as it used to be. I was on some kind of a lecture by Russian antifascist in Zagreb where he mentioned that there's less and less Nazis, because antifascists beat a shit of them.

ВАЛТЕР
5th November 2011, 01:18
As far as I know Nazi movement in Russia is not strong as it used to be. I was on some kind of a lecture by Russian antifascist in Zagreb where he mentioned that there's less and less Nazis, because antifascists beat a shit of them.

I heard in Russia it isn't just the usual ass kicking back and forth between the nazis and antifascists/communists, but shootings, bombings, and the likes as well.

Tablo
5th November 2011, 01:19
As far as I know Nazi movement in Russia is not strong as it used to be. I was on some kind of a lecture by Russian antifascist in Zagreb where he mentioned that there's less and less Nazis, because antifascists beat a shit of them.
I'm glad to hear the work of the antifa is working

Искра
5th November 2011, 01:21
I heard in Russia it isn't just the usual ass kicking back and forth between the nazis and antifascists/communists, but shootings, bombings, and the likes as well.
That's true. Russian guy talked about stabbings and shooting with rubber bullets and stuff like that.

Also, it's important to say that Nazi's are not united and that there are different fractions of Nazis. For example I believe that he said that B&H are not dangerous, because they only want to have their gigs, while there are some more militant Nazi groups.

Triple A
5th November 2011, 20:25
Wellcome to Russia, I'll be your guide

Ernesto Che Makuc
5th November 2011, 20:35
what a bunch of idiotic fucks. This immature kids even dont know about history if they would know something about it they wouldnt do this shit.

Искра
6th November 2011, 01:10
what a bunch of idiotic fucks. This immature kids even dont know about history if they would know something about it they wouldnt do this shit.
Do you know that leftovers/offspring of Whites fought side by side with Waffen SS in Second World War against Soviets? So, yeah these guys know the history, but they are just Nazis.

mrmikhail
6th November 2011, 01:21
They are not just Nazis involved here, that must be noted. There were many other nationalist-Imperialist/Monarchist involved as well, so I would classify it generally as Reactionaries

But on your last note it should be noted the Whites were not all Monarchists or reactionaries, many were actually liberals and even socialists who were thrown out by the October/November revolution.

RevoTO
7th November 2011, 02:19
uhh, I seriously doubt the antifa in Russia are responsible for a decline in fascism there (if this is indeed true). I may be wrong but it seemed to me that the anti fascist there were and are seriously outnumbered and are the victims more often than fascist =/.

Fawkes
7th November 2011, 02:38
From what I understand it's not so much that their power is diminishing, rather, they're changing their tactics. From what I've seen/read, it seems antifa was pretty successful at diminishing the prevalence of boneheads and racist hooligan gangs on the street, but in doing so they seem to have adopted a gang mentality themselves, something every anti-fascist needs to work hard to combat. Just because there may not be as many gangs of drunk guys with shaved heads walking around kicking the shit out of people does not mean nationalism or the violence associated with it is on the decline. Antifa serves the role of self-/community-defense from immediate physical violence, but the only long-term solution is the spreading of class consciousness and organization building beyond simple opposition to fascism. Not to diminish their efforts by any means, but it seems antifa groups can actually be somewhat restrictive in this manner.