Fuck you, Ron Paul.

[Crux]

Ron Paul, Tea Party Godfather, Says ‘Occupy’ All About ‘Handouts'


by Anthony Terrell and Domenico Montanaro
CARROLL, Iowa -- Ron Paul outlined what he believed was the difference between “Occupy Wall Street” and the “Tea Party.”
http://www.commondreams.org/sites/commondreams.org/files/imagecache/headline_image/article_images/ron_paul_0.jpg Rightwinger Ron Paul on the Occupy Wall Street protesters: "They’re scared to death they won’t get their handouts." “Some are demonstrating, because they’re scared to death they won’t get their handouts,” Paul said yesterday. “And the other half are demonstrating, because they’re sick and tired of paying for it. I’m on the side of sick and tired of paying for it.”
Paul's popularity has risen since 2008 largely because of the Tea Party. He doesn't lead in polling in any state, but he is routinely in the top three in states like Iowa and New Hampshire.
© 2011 NBC News

So does this mean the ron paulistas will be kicked out of OWS anytime soon?

[kashkin]

It's disgusting that they are allowed into the movement in the first place.

[khlib]

Ron Paul's neoliberal capitalism actually scares me more than the other candidates' religious fundamentalism.

[AConfusedSocialDemocrat]

Yup, poor people are only poor because they are lazy and want to be on the dole instead of working.

Thanks for just repeating the typical right wing mantra, Ron.

[AConfusedSocialDemocrat]

And I love how positive liberty, wage slavery and social contracts don't exist in the Austro-libertarian mind set, "why, because I say so! Why do you want to lock me in a cage? Taxation is theft! Government guns! Why do you hate freedom, broken window fallacy!!!"

[CleverTitle]

I am happy that he is so open about these opinions. People are attracted to his blunt anti-war stance, so much so that they occasionally look past his extremely stupid opinions about pretty much everything else. Hopefully people will recognize his ignorance.

[Os Cangaceiros]

So does this mean the ron paulistas will be kicked out of OWS anytime soon?

Are they even a significant segment of OWS?

It seems to me like they're an extremely small but vocal group.

[Tim Cornelis]

Ron Paul's neoliberal capitalism actually scares me more than the other candidates' religious fundamentalism.

To be fair though, Ron Paul is not a "neoliberal" since he rejects the basis of neoliberalism: neoclassical economics.

[Nox]

Ron Paul's neoliberal capitalism actually scares me more than the other candidates' religious fundamentalism.

He scares me more than Herman Cain...








Actually, I take that back.

[black magick hustla]

who gives a fuck about this walking corpse and his following of basement internet nerdarios, antisocial misanthropes, and mentally ill white nationalists. i dont get what is the point of getting indignant about media wingnuts and this insect

[Nox]

who gives a fuck about this walking corpse and his following of basement internet nerdarios, antisocial misanthropes, and mentally ill white nationalists. i dont get what is the point of getting indignant about media wingnuts and this insect

Because he could be the next president?

[RedGrunt]

Because he could be the next president?

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[kid communist]

Ron Paul better hope he doesn't run into me in a dark alley:mad:

[The Douche]

Because he could be the next president?

No he can't.

[Ocean Seal]

That's interesting. When the occupy movement first came out, wasn't he one of the leaders of it? And being that there are so many of his zombies there, he realizes that he's saying that about his supporters now. I thought that he was against corporate loopholes and large banks getting benefits from the government, I guess the truth is out now...

[TheGodlessUtopian]

It's disgusting that they are allowed into the movement in the first place.

It's not a elitist movement;anyone can join;case in point,at my occupy on the first day there was a christian fundamentalist (who left that same day because he didn't like our views on homosexuality) and later on a "rouge" tea partier who called gay men child molesters (who also later left after a couple days).

The Ron Paul-its are still there but I think that with this latest outburst from their dear leader they might reconsider what they are working towards.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

That's interesting. When the occupy movement first came out, wasn't he one of the leaders of it? And being that there are so many of his zombies there, he realizes that he's saying that about his supporters now. I thought that he was against corporate loopholes and large banks getting benefits from the government, I guess the truth is out now...

I don't think Ron Paul himself had anything to do with the Occupy movement. In '04 and to a lesser extent in '08 some leftists supported him because of his "anti-imperialism" and anti-war stance, and pro-legalization ideas .Since then its came out that his campaign has been surrounded by racists and neo-nazis, the fact that almost everything he says is wrong, and the more obvious reactionary views of his son fortunately disabused leftists of any residual Paulista delusions.

Originally the "Ron Paul revolution" had hoped the Occupy movement might come over to their side. Now that its obvious this won't happen, and as the Occupy movements begins to take on a more anti-capitalist tone, the message is out, "don't go near these people".

This is the first major falling away of false allies as class consciousness begins to solidify. When the Dems start attacking the Occupy movement in the same words as Paul uses, instead of "damning with faint praise" then we know we are making real progress.

[Nox]

No he can't.

He is very unlikely to win, but he is one of the main candidates and has huge, fast growing support.

I can see him winning an election in like a decade or so.

[Ocean Seal]

Originally the "Ron Paul revolution" had hoped the Occupy movement might come over to their side. Now that its obvious this won't happen, and as the Occupy movements begins to take on a more anti-capitalist tone, the message is out, "don't go near these people".

This is the first major falling away of false allies as class consciousness begins to solidify. When the Dems start attacking the Occupy movement in the same words as Paul uses, instead of "damning with faint praise" then we know we are making real progress.
I see that to some degree. I really hope that they stop showing up, and telling me about how the gubmint caused this when they took away the gold standard. Really, if anything, just for my personal comfort, that one guy who always comes and rants about that is really annoying. But when will the Democrats damn that protest. It seems too good to not latch onto.

[El Louton]

Why can't he?

[Franz Fanonipants]

who gives a fuck about this walking corpse and his following of basement internet nerdarios, antisocial misanthropes, and mentally ill white nationalists. i dont get what is the point of getting indignant about media wingnuts and this insect

comrade didn't you see the thread where some fucking anarchist was like "I think Ron Paul is rad cus ANTIMPERIALISM" or whatever?

[Azraella]

But bros! Isn't capitalism slavery the most wonderful thing ever?! With capitalism you have freedom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery), equality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletariat), and totally peaceful (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty#Violence) We must be haters of freedom and equality and peace!

We need good and wholesome Christian morals to sort ourselves out from our wicked socialist ways.


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh:

[khlib]

comrade didn't you see the thread where some fucking anarchist was like "I think Ron Paul is rad cus ANTIMPERIALISM" or whatever?

do you have a link? this I need to see.

[Bronco]

He is very unlikely to win, but he is one of the main candidates and has huge, fast growing support.

I can see him winning an election in like a decade or so.

He'll be 86 in a decade, I seriously doubt it.

[Franz Fanonipants]

do you have a link? this I need to see.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/ron-paul-t163010/index.html

enjoy comrade

[Bronco]

Ron Paul's neoliberal capitalism actually scares me more than the other candidates' religious fundamentalism.

Herman Cain told the protestors to "go home and get a job and a life", that's really less scary? :blink:

[Franz Fanonipants]

Herman Cain told the protestors to "go home and get a job and a life", that's really less scary? :blink:

im sorry comrade was herman cain saying god said that cus i don't see how your comment follows from khlib's point

[Bronco]

im sorry comrade was herman cain saying god said that cus i don't see how your comment follows from khlib's point

Well the post was made about Ron Paul presumably in relation to his comments about the Occupy movement, saying he is scarier than the Tea Party candidates. I was just making the point that the other candidates comments on the protests have been no better, and were probably even worse, than what Ron Paul had said.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Herman Cain told the protestors to "go home and get a job and a life", that's really less scary? :blink:

I think the point was that the sheer flagrant craziness and absurd and rudeness of some of the candidates is something that doesn't apply to Ron Paul. He has a more sensible appearance in some sense, especially if people don't pay too much attention when he goes on about free market and the evils of the EPA.

[Bronco]

I think the point was that the sheer flagrant craziness and absurd and rudeness of some of the candidates is something that doesn't apply to Ron Paul. He has a more sensible appearance in some sense, especially if people don't pay too much attention when he goes on about free market and the evils of the EPA.

Ah right, yeah that is a good point but I struggle to see Ron Paul ever achieving widespread support away from his core group of followers, and when you have the likes of Herman Cain topping the polls right now, that is far more worrying than a man who is essentially something of an irrelevance to most people in my opinion..

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Ron Paul functions as the Dennis Kucinich of the Republican Party.

Jon Huntsman also appears more "normal" than the other candidates. On the surface he sounds nicer, he's more articulate and he doesn't immedeately come off as as much of a nutter as someone like Perry or Cain. Listen to what he says though, he's just as crazy as the others.

[Revolution starts with U]

He is very unlikely to win, but he is one of the main candidates and has huge, fast growing support.

I can see him winning an election in like a decade or so.

You do know he's like 70-something, right?

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I wish I could get a hold of some of these handouts I hear so much about.

[agnixie]

Ron Paul, Tea Party Godfather, Says ‘Occupy’ All About ‘Handouts'


by Anthony Terrell and Domenico Montanaro
CARROLL, Iowa -- Ron Paul outlined what he believed was the difference between “Occupy Wall Street” and the “Tea Party.”
http://www.commondreams.org/sites/commondreams.org/files/imagecache/headline_image/article_images/ron_paul_0.jpg Rightwinger Ron Paul on the Occupy Wall Street protesters: "They’re scared to death they won’t get their handouts." “Some are demonstrating, because they’re scared to death they won’t get their handouts,” Paul said yesterday. “And the other half are demonstrating, because they’re sick and tired of paying for it. I’m on the side of sick and tired of paying for it.”
Paul's popularity has risen since 2008 largely because of the Tea Party. He doesn't lead in polling in any state, but he is routinely in the top three in states like Iowa and New Hampshire.
© 2011 NBC News

So does this mean the ron paulistas will be kicked out of OWS anytime soon?

Fuck you? Nah, it's the best thing he could do for us, now they'll run away since their messiah said to... One can only hope.

[Martin Blank]

Fuck you? Nah, it's the best thing he could do for us, now they'll run away since their messiah said to... One can only hope.

Agreed. I'd be more inclined to say "Thank you" than "Fuck you" to Ron Paul for his comments. This means all of the real Paulists will get out of the #occupy movement, while the lukewarm "End the Fed" types will be cut adrift and find themselves open to more revolutionary alternatives.

[Le Socialiste]

He is very unlikely to win, but he is one of the main candidates and has huge, fast growing support.

I can see him winning an election in like a decade or so.

Provided he's still alive at that point...

[Franz Fanonipants]

rand paul is basically his asshole clone so

[A Marxist Historian]

Herman Cain told the protestors to "go home and get a job and a life", that's really less scary? :blink:

Don't worry about Hermie the fraud. He's black. This temporary bubble of right wing support for him is going to go away.

It's just a collective expression of frustration on the part of the Republican voters, who are disgusted with what they have on offer. They're giving a message to the Republican leaders that if they don't give them a decent candidate to vote for, they're all gonna stay home on election day.

That's what this sex harassment scandal is all about. Rick Perry from Texas is behind it. Once the notion gets around among the Tea Party crowd that Cain was hassling white womanhood, his support there will evaporate.

His only hope is if it turns out all the women he was hassling were black, in which case he'll get a pass of course. The media have been deliberately silent thus far about their ethnic identity.

-M.H.-

[ZeroNowhere]

Herman Cain told the protestors to "go home and get a job and a life", that's really less scary? :blink:
That's scary? I don't know, here in the UK every politician talks like that.

[Le Rouge]

http://protoplasm.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/ron-paul-mt-rushmore-bw.jpg

[Bronco]

That's scary? I don't know, here in the UK every politician talks like that.

Well it's ignorant, and yeah I live in the UK too, I wouldn't say that kind of rhetoric extends far beyond the Tory party though

[AConfusedSocialDemocrat]

I can see him winning an election in like a decade or so.

...and then drops down dead before he can take office.

[CAleftist]

Ron Paul idolizes a guy (Hayek) who criticized the Nazis from the right.

"Nuff said.

[Crux]

Agreed. I'd be more inclined to say "Thank you" than "Fuck you" to Ron Paul for his comments. This means all of the real Paulists will get out of the #occupy movement, while the lukewarm "End the Fed" types will be cut adrift and find themselves open to more revolutionary alternatives.
To be fair, I am always inclined to say "Fuck you" to Ron Paul. But yeah, this is the best thing he could do.