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MustCrushCapitalism
31st October 2011, 00:30
The trailer is coming so soon! The intensity of it is killing me, I need a thread for discussing GTA V. :tt2:

Anyone else's head about to explode in anticipation of the trailer?

Koba1917
31st October 2011, 00:34
I never finished GTA IV, but I did finish the two expansions. I still will go on just to screw around sometimes just driving around and running from the Fuzz. But it's really a well done engine and combat system for an open playground game. I hope they make the online better this time around :unsure:.

socialistjustin
31st October 2011, 00:42
GTA IV was absolute shit and showed that you can't keep releasing the same shit without it getting boring. The big thing one reviewer pointed out was that it had a story you could care about. Woohoo!


They need to make it fun again, but I am not sure how you could change a sandbox game really.

Os Cangaceiros
31st October 2011, 00:51
I disagree in regards to GTA IV being bad. I thought it was good. In a couple respects it was a marked improvement from previous entries...for example, the wanted system was a big improvement from previous games, in which when you gained three stars or above, the cops would just chase you everywhere, continuously, until you got a new paint job. In GTA IV you can potentially outrun the police and evade law enforcement, now matter your wanted level (although it was pretty damn hard when you got to the highest level). I also liked how you could shoot through your windshield, which you couldn't do in GTA: San Andreas.

In other ways, though, it wasn't as fun. I didn't really like how you were trapped in the ultra-urban environment of NYC. I liked in San Andreas how you could drive out into the countryside.

The Dark Side of the Moon
31st October 2011, 00:52
i hated IV

i spent 10 minutes and traded it in for saints row 2

Leonid Brozhnev
31st October 2011, 00:56
Definitely looking forward to the trailer. Wednesday, 4pm GMT if I have it marked down right. One of my lecturers at Uni worked on GTAIV as a character modeller, have no idea if he's working on GTAV.

Pirate Utopian
31st October 2011, 04:36
GTA IV was trying too hard to be realistic to me, Saints Row is too silly. Red Dead Redemption had a nice balance of seriousness with humorous moments but none of the two were overbearing.

Anyway, I'm stoked. I hope it's a new city but if it's Vice City or San Andreas that's cool too. I hope it's more than just city this time.
I hope it's set in the past because it's always interesting to see Rockstar's spin on other decades like the 80s in Vice City or the 90s in San Andreas.
I hope it's set in the 70s and has a blaxploitation-style badass main character with disco, punk and reggae on the soundtrack.

Nox
31st October 2011, 05:00
I don't know why people find GTA so fun...

The game literally solely consists of hijacking, killing people and blowing shit up.

xub3rn00dlex
31st October 2011, 05:02
I don't know why people find GTA so fun...

The game literally solely consists of hijacking, killing people and blowing shit up.

Because you can go fuck the po'po' and clickety-clack their ass?

Pirate Utopian
31st October 2011, 05:19
I don't know why people find GTA so fun...

The game literally solely consists of hijacking, killing people and blowing shit up.

You've answered your own question...

Magón
31st October 2011, 05:24
I think GTAIV was a good and much needed improvement, to the GTA series. The others before it, like Vice City, San Andreas, etc. were fun and had their moments, but I felt GTAIV's "reinvention" was much needed. The added elements were nice, and I liked the overall story, even though I did feel that near the end it really just started to drag, but it broke away from the always "rising to the top" story, that Vice City and San Andreas had. In GTAIV, you stayed basically where you were, having just cleaned out those who had previously been the top guys.

I'm excited for GTAV, I didn't even know that a trailer was coming out for it so soon.

Leonid Brozhnev
31st October 2011, 12:03
GTAIV was definitely lacking something, I think it was more the focus on 'gritty realism' which made it somewhat less fun than previous titles.
I've always had a gripe with GTA's crap 'Revenge and Retribution' storylines, I hope they can do away with that since it's getting tiresome. In GTAIII you're shot by Catalina and you spend the rest on the game chasing her down, in San Andreas you're sold out by Ryder and Big Smoke then exiled for Los Santos, in GTAIV you're betrayed by Dimitri who, like in GTAIII, you spend the rest of the game chasing down. Vice City was the only non-revengey story... there was that bit at the end where Lance sides with Sonny Farelli, but I can let that slide since it wasn't the general theme of the entire game.

Yeah, so, I'm hoping for less revenge and retribution this time. Maybe some, nothing wrong with it as far as stories go, but it shouldn't be the impetus behind the entire story.

Manic Impressive
31st October 2011, 15:33
I hated the main character in GTA IV. I mean ffs he's a slave trader and his side kick Roman was annoying as fuck. The Ballard of Gay Tony and the other one had better storylines. I missed the houses though, being able to buy your own. Personally I'd like to see more customization ie more clothes houses and shit like that. Being able to get fat or thin in San Andreas was cool as well. Things like that would make me spend a bit more time on the game instead of going straight from one mission to the next.
Also when I turn up at a level in a fast car or a helicopter I expect it to be there when I'm finished or at least be there for my getaway, fucking disappearing vehicles.

As for where the next one could be set perhaps they might go for the 1960's London one. That seems to be the only one of the originals that they haven't redone yet. For me a 70's one should be in NY to tie in with films like the French connection. Other possibilities could be prohibition Chicago or maybe Baltimore in the style of the wire. Or perhaps they could do an insurrectionist anarchist one that would be my dream :D

Leonid Brozhnev
31st October 2011, 17:37
There's rumours that it could be set in DC, but I personally feel it's going to be more or less a generic GTA location, Los Santos probably, R* aren't exactly ones for thinking outside the box, they proved that with GTAIV.

MustCrushCapitalism
31st October 2011, 18:00
To me, the logo screams Las Venturas, but a new city would be much more interesting. Then again, it'd likely be as different as LC in III was to LC in IV, so it's all good anyways.

DC? DC would just be... eh.

fatpanda
31st October 2011, 19:02
How coould anyone hate Niko Bellic? He is one of the most likeable and Greatest Video Game Characters ever !!!

Every GTA Character is that actually ... cant wait for the Trailer alone !!!

Rusty Shackleford
31st October 2011, 19:07
I only started to "like" GTA Characters after playing as Carl Johnson.

San Andreas had an excellent story line. Even though most events were far-fetched, it was fun.

GTA IV's ultra urban envrionment was indeed a bit annoying. But the biggest problem for me in all GTA games really is the low quality gunplay. like, really, low, quality.

Franz Fanonipants
31st October 2011, 19:13
if it's set in los santos there better be tons of nortec on the soundtrack

Pirate Utopian
31st October 2011, 19:17
How coould anyone hate Niko Bellic? He is one of the most likeable and Greatest Video Game Characters ever !!!

He's whiney and annoying. All GTA IV characters were, especially Roman and Brucie. The only one I sorta liked was Packie but then he started calling me every 10 minutes to go bowling.

Leonid Brozhnev
31st October 2011, 20:03
I didn't mind Niko much, although for a GTA protagonist he was pretty meh. His seeming lust for money despite never actually getting to use any of it on anything other than weapons or food put me off him the most.

The 'friends' shit was the most annoying feature in GTAIV. You know, I'm sure we all have friends in rl but don't need to take them on dinner dates every 5 minutes to keep them happy.

MustCrushCapitalism
31st October 2011, 20:04
How coould anyone hate Niko Bellic? He is one of the most likeable and Greatest Video Game Characters ever !!!

Every GTA Character is that actually ... cant wait for the Trailer alone !!!

Claude was boring, Tommy didn't seem very... human, CJ was straight up awesome, Niko was awesomer, Johnny was ok, and Luis was godly. And the ones from VCS and LCS were meh.

Tablo
31st October 2011, 20:06
I only started to "like" GTA Characters after playing as Carl Johnson.

San Andreas had an excellent story line. Even though most events were far-fetched, it was fun.

GTA IV's ultra urban envrionment was indeed a bit annoying. But the biggest problem for me in all GTA games really is the low quality gunplay. like, really, low, quality.
I agree. I think the combat would be better if it was first-person, despite how tired the FPS genre is.

Princess Luna
31st October 2011, 21:36
I hated driving in GTA 4, it was impossible to make a turn while going even a little fast and not kill 6 pedestrians and crash into a wall.

Rusty Shackleford
31st October 2011, 21:37
I hated driving in GTA 4, it was impossible to make a turn while going even a little fast and not kill 6 pedestrians and crash into a wall.

have you ever tried taking a corner in a shitty sedan?

Pirate Utopian
31st October 2011, 21:41
Tommy Vercetti was the coolest main character, no complaining, just badass, Tommy didnt take any shit. Then CJ, then Claude and Nico last.

If you wanna include Tony and Victor Vance they come after CJ in that order.

Per Levy
31st October 2011, 21:51
personally, i rather see how good saints row the third is gonna be, since i loved the seconed saints row it will be interesting to see how insane saints row 3 will be. as for gta 5 i dont care, the same for the 4th one. san andreas was pretty good though, even though i didnt came far in it, since the story bored me quite a lot and after a while i just drove around and screwed around in the game, was more fun.

Yugo45
31st October 2011, 21:59
Also when I turn up at a level in a fast car or a helicopter I expect it to be there when I'm finished or at least be there for my getaway, fucking disappearing vehicles.
YES.......

I really, really, really hope they finally do something about this. Maybe make it like Mafia 2, where when you don't need a car on a mission it just respawns in your garage etc.

La Comédie Noire
31st October 2011, 22:01
I am probably the biggest gta fan out there, almost half my life has been about GTA, I got III when I was twelve and I am now 22.

Vice City was definitely my favorite because it had a great style, cohesive story line, and just a fun factor that didn't make it too silly. Plus the business aspect was just awesome.

San Andreas and IV tended to wander a lot, but San Andreas actually had a satisfying ending while IV... not so much. Don't get me wrong the first half of the game is great and Niko is my second favorite character, Tommy Vercetti being the first, but it just seemed to lose steam and you didn't feel the drive to finish the story you had with the previous entries. None of this would have been that much of a problem if it weren't for the fact the on foot controls and car mechanics were soooo slowwwww. I understand they were shooting for realism, but it felt like I was wading my way through cold molasses to the point where I could only stand to play it for one hour at a time. Not to mention they took all the fun out of it and all my favorite side missions. :(

What I'm hoping for is Carcer City (which is supposed to be like a Chicago or Detroit) set in the 60s or 70s. Something I've been waiting for since they released Vice City. They mentioned it throughout the series and Rockstar actually featured it in Manhunt.

If I have the time I'm gonna try to replay all the main 3d titles just to see how they stand up now that I'm an adult playing them.

Iraultzaile Ezkerreko
31st October 2011, 22:08
I have NEVER played the missions in GTA games. They only exist as party games where friends come over and we get wasted and use cheat codes to go around town blowing shit up.

RedAnarchist
31st October 2011, 22:18
I like the GTA games, but I often spend more time making up my own "missions" and, like IE, using the cheat codes in order to get loads of weapons. I have Saints Row 2, which is also good. I generally prefer sandbox-type games, personally.

Leonid Brozhnev
31st October 2011, 22:35
I hated driving in GTA 4, it was impossible to make a turn while going even a little fast and not kill 6 pedestrians and crash into a wall.


I found driving pretty easy in GTAIV, I actually hope they make it more realistic. If you're doing 120 in a sports car, don't expect to make that corner with all your organs intact.


I am probably the biggest gta fan out there, almost half my life has been about GTA, I got III when I was twelve and I am now 22.

I've owned them all at one point, I was forced into getting GTA1 when I was 10, I wanted the new A-Train game instead. Now that I look back on it, I feel pretty stupid. I remember never completing it, lending it to some kid who lived miles away and not getting it back for about 2 years... by the time I did get it back GTA2 was out and I didn't care. GTA2 was beast :thumbup1:

La Comédie Noire
31st October 2011, 22:41
I've owned them all at one point, I was forced into getting GTA1 when I was 10, I wanted the new A-Train game instead. Now that I look back on it, I feel pretty stupid. I remember never completing it, lending it to some kid who lived miles away and not getting it back for about 2 years... by the time I did get it back GTA2 was out and I didn't care. GTA2 was beast :thumbup1:

Gta2 was amazing, hands down the commies were my favorite gang and the army was serious as shit in that game. I could only last about 2 seconds without cheat codes.

Leonid Brozhnev
1st November 2011, 17:33
Russian Mafia and the Loonies, I loved their Radio Stations (KGBH and Lithium FM). GTA2 was definitely the most fun, I used to play with cheat codes quite a lot, but I remember when the Hare Krishna faction hated you, they started wielding fucking flamethrowers and despite you're supposed immortality, if they set you on fire you were fucked... if you got in a car while you were on fire it would explode so you had to walk everywhere in the city.

Sometimes I wish they would remake it, Retro-Future stylised GTA with Art-Deco cars and shit... but I know they won't, because they'll only do what gets them the most amount of money. :rolleyes:

Oh, 24 hours until the Trainer is out. Fucking stoked!

Magón
1st November 2011, 17:40
I heard/read, that GTA V is supposed to take place back on the West Coast. Does this mean they're going to be taking it back to San Andreas? (with all the places like San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Vegas on a new map?)

Rusty Shackleford
1st November 2011, 18:44
I heard/read, that GTA V is supposed to take place back on the West Coast. Does this mean they're going to be taking it back to San Andreas? (with all the places like San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Vegas on a new map?)

Eugene, Redding, and Arcata are going to be the main cities. Eugene being the biggest, Arcata being the hippie town and Redding being the po-dunk starting place. There are goign to be a million trees.

GTA V PNW!

Manic Impressive
1st November 2011, 20:40
Eugene, Redding, and Arcata are going to be the main cities. Eugene being the biggest, Arcata being the hippie town and Redding being the po-dunk starting place. There are goign to be a million trees.

GTA V PNW!
Which cities are they supposed to represent?

I heard that you get to choose your character in this one, which would be kewl.

xub3rn00dlex
1st November 2011, 20:44
Which cities are they supposed to represent?

I heard that you get to choose your character in this one, which would be kewl.

Do you mean choose as in character creation or choose as in Playing a storyline through the specific lens of one character?

Magón
1st November 2011, 20:45
Which cities are they supposed to represent?

I heard that you get to choose your character in this one, which would be kewl.

Those are all names of real life cities in California, except for Eugene, that's in Oregon.

Manic Impressive
1st November 2011, 20:47
i don't really know but I think there are set characters and you get to choose which one you want to play. Also no idea if they have separate storylines or all do the same one or have the same main storyline and different side missions. :shrugs:

Rafiq
1st November 2011, 20:49
I hated San Andreas.

I also didn't like how in GTA IV I couldn't fuck shit up. Like in SR2 I could fuck shit up.

Manic Impressive
1st November 2011, 20:52
Those are all names of real life cities in California, except for Eugene, that's in Oregon.
oh lol well I'm glad they've thought about the international market and chosen some world famous cities like Eugene, Reading and err the other one. :)

A Revolutionary Tool
1st November 2011, 21:03
oh lol well I'm glad they've thought about the international market and chosen some world famous cities like Eugene, Reading and err the other one. :)
It's okay, I live in California and I've never heard of Arcata before...

Rusty Shackleford
1st November 2011, 21:05
It was a joke :rolleyes:

Franz Fanonipants
1st November 2011, 21:07
idk if you guys have seen this:

http://www.theagencyonline.com/news.php?castingid=1472&title=Rush

there's a good chance that "rush" is a codename for GTA V

MustCrushCapitalism
2nd November 2011, 00:48
The character Clyde makes me think that it'll have a countryside. San Andreas it is?

Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2011, 01:04
I dont think that's for this game. I hope not. I really want it set in the 70s.

A Revolutionary Tool
2nd November 2011, 01:15
idk if you guys have seen this:

http://www.theagencyonline.com/news.php?castingid=1472&title=Rush

there's a good chance that "rush" is a codename for GTA V
I don't see what's their, just a bunch of things asking me to apply to view and I don't really want to apply for anything.

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 02:32
Trailer debut tomorrow!
Oakland General Strike tomorrow!

2nd November 2011, 03:45
I want to be able to kidnap people in the fifth one. Thats all I want. Holding hostages and asking for ransom would also be awesome. And the ability to make your own character.

GTA 4 is fun for me because it is realistic. There is nothing more exhilarating than creeping up slowly behind someone in an alley during midnight in my Black Emperor, get out, and beat the shit out of them with the baseball bat and drive off as if nothing happened. While I smile to myself when my favorite radio station plays me smooth Jazz. I like to make my murders realistic.

Q0ZBaZoBCaA

Magón
2nd November 2011, 05:08
I wonder if they'll have another Black protagonist, in GTAV? Maybe even a Cholo, that'd be cool. :lol:

2nd November 2011, 05:15
Or maybe a blank canvas you can make your own.

Ocean Seal
2nd November 2011, 05:38
I didn't mind Niko much, although for a GTA protagonist he was pretty meh. His seeming lust for money despite never actually getting to use any of it on anything other than weapons or food put me off him the most.

The 'friends' shit was the most annoying feature in GTAIV. You know, I'm sure we all have friends in rl but don't need to take them on dinner dates every 5 minutes to keep them happy.
Niko my cousin come play bowling with me. :laugh:

I've never been too big a fan of the GTA series especially after their last installment. It just doesn't really appeal too much to me.

Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2011, 17:02
Modern day Los Santos it is.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 17:02
Just watched the trailer... Los Santos :lol:

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 17:07
Sick, wonder if it's gonna include the whole state?

Damn it I wanted Carcer City in the 70s.

Franz Fanonipants
2nd November 2011, 17:12
As a former SoCal resident, they have those big turbines out near Joshua Tree, so it goes pretty deep throughout the southland at least.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 17:13
Probably not, that would need to come on like 6 DVD's... they seem to have included a massive chunk of countryside though. Also, looking at the silenced weapons, looks like you'll be able to customise your guns... bout time!

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 17:16
For a bunch of leftists we really enjoy rising through the ranks of the lumpen bourgeois!

Manic Impressive
2nd November 2011, 17:16
Is it Tommy Vercetti?

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 17:20
I think it's some hispanic/ latino character, which I think is fucking awesome.

A Revolutionary Tool
2nd November 2011, 17:27
I think it's some hispanic/ latino character, which I think is fucking awesome.
looks like a white guy to me.

kid communist
2nd November 2011, 17:28
Yeah,while you wait for GTA 5,I'll be playing Saints Row The Third

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 17:32
He sounds Italian American (to me anyway)... he say's he 'moved there for the weather', so he's probably from Liberty City... he'll be the next-gen Tommy Vercetti I guess.


Yeah,while you wait for GTA 5,I'll be playing Saints Row The Third

Because waiting for one game means we can't play the other?

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 17:35
looks like a white guy to me.

I'm confused if the white guy or the Hispanic guy with the tattoos you see throughout the video is supposed to be the main character?

The voice sounds kinda Spanish, but it also sounds Italian American. So confused.

Actually I'm just confusing myself the guy with the tattoos is someone totally different from the guy you see jacking the car.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 17:41
I heard a rumour that there may be multiple characters... so the voice over may be the guy in the suit but you might also be able to play from the perspective of the guy in Tats being chased by cops, or the guy in the car at 0:26 and 1:25.

Franz Fanonipants
2nd November 2011, 17:43
there's a guy in that casting sheet who's a chicano fbi agent torn between different mob bosses. sounds like a born Rockstar protagonist.

but i'm willing to bet there are different playable characters.

to get myself pumped i'm bumping tupac as loud as possible in the ga office today. all. day. long.

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 17:44
oh fuck yes im glad its not in fucking miami!


California woo!


looks like

1: theres going to be a UFW subplot. (cropdusting farmworkers)
2: a possible CJ cameo near the end
3: 90s/2000's
4: Graffiti on the side of the street a bit after the middle clearly says "Los Santos"

Los Santos
I-5 North
Sierras! (Mt. Chiliad)

I have a feeling it is either goign to be a massive So cal or another GTA SA sized map. with the Hwy 5 in game im guessing its going to be like I5 does and goes straight north through LA to Sacramento to Redding. so, that means possibly SF. The 5 logo looks an awful lot like a Las Vegas style so of course, Las Vegas too!

as for ethnicity, i couldnt make it out. if he moved for the weather, hes coming from the north. If he was being sarcastic then from FL or southwest/mexico. But, seeing as the last San Andreas character was from Liberty City, this one is going to be from Vice City.

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 17:47
there's a guy in that casting sheet who's a chicano fbi agent torn between different mob bosses. sounds like a born Rockstar protagonist.

but i'm willing to bet there are different playable characters.

to get myself pumped i'm bumping tupac as loud as possible in the ga office today. all. day. long.

:lol: I'm doing the same thing except at home. The second I realized it was SA I started playing I just don't give a fuck.

Franz Fanonipants
2nd November 2011, 17:50
it's literally going to be about the recession, see all the realtor shit and homeless.

I'm actually super pumped. If it manages to combine the Shield, Michael Mann's Los Angeles, and the better parts of San Andreas I'll be on board.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 17:57
Yeah, I noticed that... the homeless, the hooverville, the guy hammering in the Foreclosure sign. The recession is going be featuring heavily in this game... probably even a plot driver. No revenge storyline at fucking last?

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 17:59
Im still one the line about the recession plot because it seriously looked like there was a CJ from GTA:SA cameo. you know, dude in white a-shirt, blue jeans being chased by a helicopter and pigs in an alley.

Magón
2nd November 2011, 18:35
I think his voice actually sounded more like something you'd hear from Boston, not somewhere like Liberty City/New York. But it could be just the beginning when he says, "Why did I move here? I guess it was the weather..." that I think he's more Boston than LC/NYC.

Could be an older Vercetti, but wouldn't that make him like late-50s maybe even 60 something now? The character in the suit only looks like he's probably in his 40s?

Also, I don't think the guy with the tats is CJ from SA, he's too brown to be black. :p It could be that guy who CJ's sister was dating?

I also think something like the Monterey-area is going to be shown, with those migrant workers working those crops. (For those who don't know, Monterey is a big area for migrant workers who do that kind of work.)

2nd November 2011, 18:36
Los Santos! Mountains! Hiking!

As an LA boy I am extremely excited.

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 18:37
as much as i hate living in california. i love the idea of playing GTA in california. maybe, deep down inside, i truly do love this state.

2nd November 2011, 18:38
Its actually a great state and I'm happy to be a californian.

Can't wait to go on killing-sprees in what looked like Beverly Hills. Time to kill some yuppie scum.

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 18:42
my best GTA memories were in GTA:SA. i doubt they are going to bring back RPG elements like in the old one but still if there is a shit ton of stuff to do ill be happy. And whats nice is this is going to probably come out next October so there is plenty of time for Skyrim.

I just want to cruise around the city then go out into the redwoods like the old one and terrorize the country folk and then go into hippie ville.

Magón
2nd November 2011, 18:43
I wonder if they've kept the driving mechanics from GTAIV? I hope so, because I really did like those more, than the older mechanics.

Manic Impressive
2nd November 2011, 18:45
Could be an older Vercetti, but wouldn't that make him like late-50s maybe even 60 something now? The character in the suit only looks like he's probably in his 40s?

Well Vice City was mid-late 80's I think so 25 years he might be early 50's but yeah probably not. It was just the way he was saying he'd already got rich and moved there to retire and was forced back into a life of crime, it kind of seemed like we already knew him. But yeah actually I don't think it can be Vercetti because at the start of Vice City he'd just got out of jail so yeah the age wouldn't add up.

2nd November 2011, 18:45
I still wish you could go to hollywood I mean Vinewood and kidnap celebrities.
Maybe, just maybe.

But I wouldn't mind if they made generic versions of famous celebrities that I can kill and rob.

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 18:46
My best gta memory would have to be when I got 100% in Vice City, it was awesome because I worked it out so the last mission was the very last thing I had to do.

2nd November 2011, 18:48
I didn't even bother. Being a taxi-driver wasn't my concept of having fun.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 18:52
I'd like 'Home Invasions' back. I used to always go up to Vinewood and steal the rich folks stuff. Man, all this GTAV talk makes me want to re-install San Andreas, gah...

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 18:53
I didn't even bother. Being a taxi-driver wasn't my concept of having fun.

I just put in a comedy cd or book on tape for those particularly long and boring R3 missions.

I remember one time though I was on the 11th fire fighter mission and my thumb accidentally grazed the triangle button and my character got out of the truck, which automatically cancels the mission and your progress... I didn't play gta for a couple days after that

Magón
2nd November 2011, 18:59
Well apparently the release is already being guessed for May 24th 2012.

2nd November 2011, 19:00
I thought it gave you 5 seconds.

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 19:05
I thought it gave you 5 seconds.

For somethings, not for others. I think the dirt bike challenges and vigilante missions gave you a window of time, but not taxi or fire fighter missions.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 19:06
I hated those missions, I'm glad they did away with them in GTAIV. The best on was 'Brown Thunder' in the Apache... Vigilante was also okay, but the Firetruck and Taxi one were abysmal. Worst though was the Paramedic missions... not only are you timed, there's not much space in an Ambulance, you have to pick up multiple people, if you crash they might die and on top of that the Ambulance handled like crap. Yeah, those mission weren't fun.

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 19:09
Robberies, Assassinations, Kidnappings. what else could there possibly be?

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 19:15
Well apparently the release is already being guessed for May 24th 2012.

According to one of the R* guys Facebook, it's set to be released 10/09/12... I'm not sure if that's DD/MM/YY or MM/DD/YY. Can't remember the guys name either...

Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2011, 19:15
I'd like 'Home Invasions' back. I used to always go up to Vinewood and steal the rich folks stuff. Man, all this GTAV talk makes me want to re-install San Andreas, gah...

I always thought it was annoying that the van you needed to start Home Invasions was back in the hood. You had to drive all the way to the other side of Los Santos to get to mansions and then drive all the way back.

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 19:16
According to one of the R* guys Facebook, it's set to be released 10/09/12... I'm not sure if that's DD/MM/YY or MM/DD/YY. Can't remember the guys name either...
Oct. 9, 2012.

almost all GTA games are october releases.

Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2011, 19:21
I didn't even bother. Being a taxi-driver wasn't my concept of having fun.

Taxi driving wasnt even that bad but all those stupid jumps you had to do.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 19:29
Yeah, October is the usually magic month... for GTAIV it wasn't, not sure why. People are saying 24.05.12 is because of some random number on the Post truck in the trailer. If people had any sense they'd realise the 24th of May is a Thursday... nobody releases games on a Thursday (except in Japan). In the US, you release games on a Tuesday, in the UK/EU, it's Friday. 9th of October is a Tuesday so 10/09/12 is your best bet.

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 19:29
I always thought it was annoying that the van you needed to start Home Invasions was back in the hood. You had to drive all the way to the other side of Los Santos to get to mansions and then drive all the way back.

There was actually two houses in Gangton you could just go back and forth between instead of traveling all around. If you did it fast enough you could get the $10,000 in one night! :)

Bronco
2nd November 2011, 19:31
Great name for a boat

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/9/2011/11/xlarge_jetski16x9.jpg

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 19:32
Noticed that too, made me lol :lol:

Guess that R* humour wont' be lost on this game.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 20:04
Only just noticed there's a DOG in the first 9 seconds of the Trailer. So, there's going to be animals/Police-dogs/Guard-dogs/Pets in GTAV? Or I wonder if that's just cut scene material? :confused:

2nd November 2011, 20:07
Considering RDR had animals. GTA5 will probably have it to.

Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2011, 20:10
Awesome, I wanna hunt bears with a bazooka.

2nd November 2011, 20:16
In fucking RDR they run towards you in the dozens. I'm literally glancing over my shoulder every 5 seconds hoping a fucking bear doesn't trample on me.

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 20:23
In fucking RDR they run towards you in the dozens. I'm literally glancing over my shoulder every 5 seconds hoping a fucking bear doesn't trample on me.
and those fucking cougars. fuck.

Manic Impressive
2nd November 2011, 20:36
oh fuck me running! I just worked out who it could be....it could be 3......the guy from GTA3 with no name and no voice. I'm convinced that the old way of life thing and the fact he's rich alreadyis signifigant

Tim Cornelis
2nd November 2011, 21:00
In fucking RDR they run towards you in the dozens. I'm literally glancing over my shoulder every 5 seconds hoping a fucking bear doesn't trample on me.

Bird flying through the air and being able to shoot at them would be awesome though.

Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2011, 21:03
In fucking RDR they run towards you in the dozens. I'm literally glancing over my shoulder every 5 seconds hoping a fucking bear doesn't trample on me.

Hunting was cool as fuck though. I also hope GTA V will have lots of stranger missions. GTA IV had them before RDR (and technically Bully had errands before that) but RDR perfected them.

Leonid Brozhnev
2nd November 2011, 21:06
'Hey, can you give me a ride mister?........ Hahaha! Fuck you I stole your horse!'

Yeah, strangers were fun...:laugh:

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
2nd November 2011, 21:11
oh fuck me running! I just worked out who it could be....it could be 3......the guy from GTA3 with no name and no voice. I'm convinced that the old way of life thing and the fact he's rich alreadyis signifigant

He has a name. His name is Claude.

Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2011, 21:17
'Hey, can you give me a ride mister?........ Hahaha! Fuck you I stole your horse!'

Yeah, strangers were fun...:laugh:

That's random encounters. Stranger missions was stuff like I Know You or Funny Man. Random encounters in GTA V would be cool too.

La Comédie Noire
2nd November 2011, 21:20
I'd like to see businesses, both legitimate and illegitimate, make a come back.

Rafiq
2nd November 2011, 21:28
I hope it's similar to Red Dead Redeption's multiplayer. I don't just want it to be Grand Theft Auto IV in California.

Also, Los Santos is too fucking small. At least give us some other places in San Andreas, Christ.

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
2nd November 2011, 21:55
Also, Los Santos is too fucking small. At least give us some other places in San Andreas, Christ.

I wouldn't mind it if the map took 30 minutes or more to drive across, that would be awesome.

Franz Fanonipants
2nd November 2011, 22:15
basically like i said it seems like the map at least goes a few hours towards the Eastern CA stateline, RL geography status.

God I wish Tijuana was in the game.

Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 22:18
basically like i said it seems like the map at least goes a few hours towards the Eastern CA stateline, RL geography status.

God I wish Tijuana was in the game.
maybe instead of Tijuana they would skip San Diego and just do Calexico/Mexicali.

RedAnarchist
2nd November 2011, 22:40
I saw the trailer and it looks great (as for RDR, I have that game as well).

Rafiq
2nd November 2011, 22:50
I wouldn't mind it if the map took 30 minutes or more to drive across, that would be awesome.

had they limited it to los santos, than they would have to make the cars go really slow

A Revolutionary Tool
2nd November 2011, 23:29
had they limited it to los santos, than they would have to make the cars go really slow

Or just make Los Santos one giant metropolis. But it will have more than just the city, it had the mountainous region which already makes it pretty big. San Andreas was one huge map imo...

2nd November 2011, 23:29
We should all make a posse together for RDR. If you guys have PS3s. We can go fuck shit up.

Pirate Utopian
2nd November 2011, 23:35
I still need the Posse Up throphy. Of the non-DLC thropies that and The Quick And Everyone Else are the only ones I need.

Rafiq
2nd November 2011, 23:55
yeah. On Red Dead redeption we should all replicate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1907_Tiflis_bank_robbery

Magón
3rd November 2011, 00:06
That's random encounters. Stranger missions was stuff like I Know You or Funny Man. Random encounters in GTA V would be cool too.

Didn't they already have random encounters in GTAIV? One of them was like taking a chick home, and her husband or boyfriend, thinking you were the guy she was cheating on him with so you had to beat him down, and other things like that?

3rd November 2011, 00:25
Well my PSN name is "bassama" feel free to add me.

Pirate Utopian
3rd November 2011, 01:46
Didn't they already have random encounters in GTAIV? One of them was like taking a chick home, and her husband or boyfriend, thinking you were the guy she was cheating on him with so you had to beat him down, and other things like that?

I never saw that.

3rd November 2011, 02:33
I believe there was one random encounter where you got to help this guy whos knee-deep in the mafia by driving the escape car. But he gets shot and now you have to kill the mafia guys before they hurt the girl and kid you like. I'm pretty sure that happened.

Pirate Utopian
3rd November 2011, 03:14
Is this from dlc or something? It does sound vaguely familiar, maybe it was a stranger mission.

Rusty Shackleford
3rd November 2011, 03:34
just realized. there are 2 different planes in the preview!


that means only 2 things.

you can fly them.
the map will be large.


EDIT:

Second trailer is up!
Pze6mdhnBLM

Magón
3rd November 2011, 05:02
I never saw that.

Is as follows: Link (http://gta.wikia.com/Sara)

3rd November 2011, 05:07
Is this from dlc or something? It does sound vaguely familiar, maybe it was a stranger mission.

You end uP slicing the italian guy in the neck a d drive off like a boss. No money though :(

MustCrushCapitalism
3rd November 2011, 05:18
There seem to be hints at a May 24th release! We can hope so at least. :P

Pirate Utopian
3rd November 2011, 13:17
http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/19471/grand-theft-auto-v-official-announcement.html

Los Santos and surrounding nature. Supposedly the most ambitious game R* has ever released.

Leonid Brozhnev
3rd November 2011, 13:30
There seem to be hints at a May 24th release! We can hope so at least. :P

People are taking this from an obscure 4 figure number on the side on a truck in the Trailer. People really like to search for meaning in the meaningless.
Gary Foreman at R* already announced on his Facebook that the release date for GTAV is set to be the 9th of October 2012 (has since been removed). This makes more sence since it's a Tuesday (the usual day they release games in the US) and is in October (the usual month R* release games in).

RedAnarchist
3rd November 2011, 13:51
People are taking this from an obscure 4 figure number on the side on a truck in the Trailer. People really like to search for meaning in the meaningless.
Gary Foreman at R* already announced on his Facebook that the release date for GTAV is set to be the 9th of October 2012 (has since been removed). This makes more sence since it's a Tuesday (the usual day they release games in the US) and is in October (the usual month R* release games in).

Allegedly, that guy is a fake and shouldn't be trusted. I don't know for sure, though.

Leonid Brozhnev
3rd November 2011, 14:22
Well, he's taken it down, so somebody somewhere wasn't happy with him sharing the information. Again, it could be a ruse... who knows, but if you look at his friends page (fuck, I sound like some kind of stalker) he's got all kinds of different games development buddies, including people who work for R* (Anita Norfolk being notable since she is credited as an Animator in the GTAIV game manual. Yes, I looked. Yes, I am sad). Either way, 9th of October sounds like a more credible date than the 24th of May.

Rusty Shackleford
3rd November 2011, 16:17
http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/19471/grand-theft-auto-v-official-announcement.html

Los Santos and surrounding nature. Supposedly the most ambitious game R* has ever released.
just looking at all the clutter on the streets shows ambition enough. i mean fuck everything is detailed.

as for it only being in SoCal im slightly disappointed but who knows.

Nicolai
3rd November 2011, 16:51
I didn't like GTA IV cause of the storyline. The engine was new and awesome, but it missed so many part San Andreas did so amazingly good (customization,deeper character development, events in both radio and in-game so on). I don't like Niko either (worst part people, when the game came out called me Niko Belic all the freaking time >.<). He's cold, don't care for anything the revenge and honor and really didn't show any affection to much around him. But they managed this with Carl. I hope V will be more like SA + all the good parts of IV (it had it's moments that could be gold if they've gone a bit further).

Leonid Brozhnev
3rd November 2011, 17:46
just looking at all the clutter on the streets shows ambition enough. i mean fuck everything is detailed.

as for it only being in SoCal im slightly disappointed but who knows.

GTAV will be a much, much more detailed, deeper game than GTAIV. They still have all the models they can recycle from the last game which means they can focus more on adding the stuff people want instead of having to model and skin 1000 different types of trash for the sidewalk.

Magón
3rd November 2011, 18:14
as for it only being in SoCal im slightly disappointed but who knows.

Hopefully with the map, it'll be large enough that things aren't so compacted together and we get a larger SoCal experience. And hopefully they'll take from what they did with the RDR map, and just make Los Santos (and the rest) a piece of a larger map, instead of islands like GTAIV.


I didn't like GTA IV cause of the storyline . . . deeper character development

I think GTAIV actually did the storyline and character development, a lot better than SA. GTAIV was a lot darker and deeper, while SA was just really a cluster fuck of missions and wild times. Which I didn't hate, but the story to GTAIV was a lot more cohesive and together than SA. Though I do think near the end, GTAIV started to lag on with the Mafia missions.


He's cold, don't care for anything the revenge and honor and really didn't show any affection to much around him.

Well he was supposed to be a Serb who had done many terrible things during the collapse of Yugoslavia, and after the war too, so I think his cold and careless attitude was well suited for a guy who felt guilty for all he'd done.

Pirate Utopian
3rd November 2011, 19:21
If only Nico was more stoic instead of whining all the time.

SA storyline was a mess but a fun, interesting mess. GTA IV was boring and full of unlikable characters like Playboy X, that Jamaican guy, Brucie and of course Roman.

#FF0000
3rd November 2011, 19:29
i loved literally all the characters in GTA IV. I thought it was gr8.

except playboy x but I killed him anyway so

La Comédie Noire
3rd November 2011, 21:05
I though GTAIV's story line was awesome for the first half, with interesting characters, but then towards the final act it petered out because they were trying to build an anti-revenge story line, where as the last three games had been a revenge driven story line. In this light it can be argued the storyline is not supposed to be satisfying nor are the characters supposed to be likable.

Niko is a vengeful person who has a deep seated anger and an over all cynical outlook on life. He thinks that by physically destroying those who have slighted him he can lay his bitterness to rest and finally move on with his life. Throughout the story he is either getting revenge for himself (against people like Darko Brevic, Dmitri Rascalov, Jimmy Pegorino) or he is carrying out revenge for other people( for people like vlad Gebov, Derrick Mcreary, Dwayne and Dmitri Rascolov) Niko really exemplifies the Nietzche quote

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

Niko has a bleak outlook on his life that isn't going to change unless he learns to let go of the past and be at rest with himself, otherwise he will just keep finding people to be mad at or things to be angry about. It's in the subtext of the whole story, for instance the character Derrick Mcreary comes back after fighting in the IRA. The fight against British Domination has been going on for hundreds of years, it is a long and bitter struggle. The fight turned Derrick Mcreary into a desperate heroin addict and paranoid delusional. Niko is sympathetic to Derrick because he sees himself in Derrick and realizes where his life of struggle will ultimately lead. That's why he looks so freaked out when Derrick starts telling him "me and you are exactly the same."

The art design is another indicator of the bleak and minimalistic storyline. A lot of the time it is gray and rainy, and the buildings are all different variations of muted tones.

It helps if you think of GTAIV as a Russian novel. Something I think Rockstar had in mind when they made it.

Now that doesn't necessarily translate to fun game play, but the episodic content made up for that by carrying on in the spirit of previous entries.

Magón
3rd November 2011, 23:29
I though GTAIV's story line was awesome for the first half, with interesting characters, but then towards the final act it petered out because they were trying to build an anti-revenge story line, where as the last three games had been a revenge driven story line. In this light it can be argued the storyline is not supposed to be satisfying nor are the characters supposed to be likable.

Niko is a vengeful person who has a deep seated anger and an over all cynical outlook on life. He thinks that by physically destroying those who have slighted him he can lay his bitterness to rest and finally move on with his life. Throughout the story he is either getting revenge for himself (against people like Darko Brevic, Dmitri Rascalov, Jimmy Pegorino) or he is carrying out revenge for other people( for people like vlad Gebov, Derrick Mcreary, Dwayne and Dmitri Rascolov) Niko really exemplifies the Nietzche quote

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

Niko has a bleak outlook on his life that isn't going to change unless he learns to let go of the past and be at rest with himself, otherwise he will just keep finding people to be mad at or things to be angry about. It's in the subtext of the whole story, for instance the character Derrick Mcreary comes back after fighting in the IRA. The fight against British Domination has been going on for hundreds of years, it is a long and bitter struggle. The fight turned Derrick Mcreary into a desperate heroin addict and paranoid delusional. Niko is sympathetic to Derrick because he sees himself in Derrick and realizes where his life of struggle will ultimately lead. That's why he looks so freaked out when Derrick starts telling him "me and you are exactly the same."

The art design is another indicator of the bleak and minimalistic storyline. A lot of the time it is gray and rainy, and the buildings are all different variations of muted tones.

It helps if you think of GTAIV as a Russian novel. Something I think Rockstar had in mind when they made it.

Now that doesn't necessarily translate to fun game play, but the episodic content made up for that by carrying on in the spirit of previous entries.

I don't think I've ever heard/seen someone break down a GTA game like this before. I mean, I've seen it done with other games, but never a GTA game. Made me LOL a bit, even though I agree with the parts that I could and didn't get the rest. :lol:

Pirate Utopian
4th November 2011, 00:54
I have nothing against a downer ending. RDR had really well done one that doubles as anti-revenge.

Not only do we lose the great John Marston but his son, who he has fought so hard for to keep him out of a life of crime, is now an outlaw.

When you hunt for Edgar Ross, who is a jerk the whole game, you meet his family and you see a human side of him.

In the end when Jack killed Edgar Ross he looks at his gun with a look on his face of dissatisfaction.

The difference is that RDR had a better story, better characters and it's ending therefor hit me much more.
Alot of themes you see in GTA IV are done much better in RDR in my opinion. Especially with Dutch's dialogue about fighting change.

When Roman dies (I perfer that scenario because then you get rid of Roman AND Kate as she refuses to speak to you for choosing the money) I was just relieved not to see that prick again.

Comrade J
4th November 2011, 00:58
People are taking this from an obscure 4 figure number on the side on a truck in the Trailer. People really like to search for meaning in the meaningless.

It's on the kerb (maybe it is on the truck too? I never noticed).

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/03/article-1320316333152-0EA5E93F00000578-511943_466x310.jpg

Also the song playing was released on the 24th May '68, and I have heard that 24th May is Dan Houser's birthday (co-creator) although I don't know if that's true.

Btw, what's with all the Roman-hating!? He was a fantastic character, hilarious at times too. Even the "COUSIN! Let's go bowling!" phonecalls were a great idea, he was one of the best written/voice-acted characters in the game. The worst characters were Playboy X and Dwayne (what a miserable fuck). And if we count the add-ons, then Yusuf from TBOGT too.

Pretty Flaco
4th November 2011, 01:19
I have nothing against a downer ending. RDR had really well done one that doubles as anti-revenge.

Not only do we lose the great John Marston but his son, who he has fought so hard for to keep him out of a life of crime, is now an outlaw.

When you hunt for Edgar Ross, who is a jerk the whole game, you meet his family and you see a human side of him.

In the end when Jack killed Edgar Ross he looks at his gun with a look on his face of dissatisfaction.



the ending of RDR made me mad because I hated jack's voice... I kid you not. The fact he was an adult and still had the same voice as a kid just made me not want to play the single player anymore.

spoilers

Pirate Utopian
4th November 2011, 02:27
I didnt mind him as an adult, he kinda annoyed me as a kid. Overall it didnt really matter because I usually do everything I possibly need to do for 100% as John and then move on to do mission where you face Dutch.

The few things left are easily done.

And I'm talking storyline wise here anyway.

La Comédie Noire
4th November 2011, 04:16
Yeah man what I liked about RDR was it was about the end of the American Frontier myth and the civilizing influence of technology (read: control and dependence) Probably the most exemplary part is when the special agents can't get their car started when they are attacked and I think Marsten comments "you don't have to start a horse."

The time it is set was key too. The final frontier had only been settled scarcely 10 years before and America was in transition, from a somewhat democratic experiment, to a settled state with all that entails (war, class conflict, private property ect.). You can tell Twain was a big influence for them, there is even one stranger encounter that is quite similar to a Twain short story.

Men like Dutch and Marsten are outlaws in a world where you can no longer get outside the law by continuing west. The law literally chased them to the sea.

o well this is ok I guess
4th November 2011, 04:20
calling me every 10 minutes to go bowling. GTAIV in a nutshell

Pirate Utopian
4th November 2011, 04:51
-snip-

The whole modern civilisation vs. old west is most obvious in the third chapter. The whole third chapter has by far the grayest morality of the game.

Dutch is sympathetic but he's also deluted and violent, he is the old west with all of it's flaws. Ross is less sympathetic but he's more logical and focused, he's also violent and hypocritical, he is modern civilisation with all of it's flaws.

Marston also symbolizes how cowboys made themself obsolete. They can only exist in the old west but the more they achieve (in Marston's case capture his former friends) the more civilised their free land becomes and the less they are needed. Marston is the last gunslinger.

The I Know You mission is indeed similiar to The Mysterious Stranger, it's also somewhat of a tribute to the supernatural westerns Clint Eastwood made like Pale Rider and the High Plains Drifter.

The game's chapters are also the different phases of westerns;

Chapter 1 is the classic western: Black and white morality (Williamson is total scum and the law is cranky but still genuine good guys), swinging saloon doors, cacti everywhere, the storyline is sorta like Shane (drifter comes into countryside community, defeats outlaws, rides off into sunset) and the story of Wyatt Earp/Doc Holiday (lawman and outlaw teaming up).
Chapter 2 is the spaghetti western: Black and gray morality (Allende is a bastard but Reyes is deeply flawed and ends up a tyrant himself), set during the Mexican revolution, same critique of revolution as movies like Duck You Sucker! or the Professionals, story is sorta like Django or A Fistful of Dollars (drifter rides into a border town where a conflict between two groups rages and the drifter acts as a mercenary to both sides to get something he wants).
Chapter 3 is the contemperary western/neo-western: total gray morality, more modern setting/weaponry, non-arid land like snow and forrests.

Leonid Brozhnev
4th November 2011, 05:27
It's on the kerb (maybe it is on the truck too? I never noticed).

Also the song playing was released on the 24th May '68, and I have heard that 24th May is Dan Houser's birthday (co-creator) although I don't know if that's true.

Btw, what's with all the Roman-hating!? He was a fantastic character, hilarious at times too. Even the "COUSIN! Let's go bowling!" phonecalls were a great idea, he was one of the best written/voice-acted characters in the game. The worst characters were Playboy X and Dwayne (what a miserable fuck). And if we count the add-ons, then Yusuf from TBOGT too.

Hah, I always thought it was on the side of the truck.

The Ogdens Nut Gone Flake release date is an interesting one, can't confirm Dan Housers birthday. Again though, there's nothing there to confirm a release date, maybe these numbers and ONGF were chosen for a different reason... like because it's Dan Houser's birthday? 24th is still a Thursday next year, R* have only released DLC on Thursdays (since nobody gives a crap when DLC is released). The massive majority of games are released on Tuesdays... Bully, GTASA, GTAIV, RDR, LA Noire have all been released on Tuesdays, Max Payne 3 is also set for a Tuesday release. There's a reason for this, something to do with stock, but I can't stress this Tuesday-Game-release relation thing enough :lol:

I didn't mind 'fatty' Roman, if I wanted to fuck about outside of mission time I would turn my phone calls off. I didn't mind Dwayne either, he gave you a pretty decent perk when you became friends (bodyguards/meatsheilds). Most annoying character imo was Brucie... although I have to admit, he may have been topped by his brother in BOGT.

Hexen
4th November 2011, 05:38
GTA basically glamorizes the lumpen bourgeoisie (if I'm using the right word). Well I wonder if there's a Marxist analysis on crime and the mafia.

4th November 2011, 06:11
GTA basically glamorizes the lumpen bourgeoisie (if I'm using the right word). Well I wonder if there's a Marxist analysis on crime and the mafia.

Get your stupid politics outta here.

Magón
4th November 2011, 07:05
I think my favorite missions of GTAIV were the bank heist mission, and the Jacob/Bad Man missions. I just love the cutscene in the bank, where that guy tries to take everyone on with his pistol but just gets blasted to hell. (I think that Luis guy was there too?)

Also, after just re-watching the only real Tom Cruise movie I can say I enjoyed and that he was really good in, I wonder if Rockstar is taking anything from the movie Collateral? It's set in LA.

Hexen
4th November 2011, 08:01
Get your stupid politics outta here.

I thought this is a politics forum where it's discussed openly and I took the opportunity to mention whatever what's in my mind at the time which I thought it would be fitting for the discussion.

I think I might as well create another thread if it bothers anyone here.

4th November 2011, 08:38
This is chit chat, it is non political. If you want to turn every discussion into a political one whilst licking Marx's testicles go ahead. Just realize it makes you look like an ass.

Hexen
4th November 2011, 08:40
Okay I'll back down, I don't want to cause any turmoil.

Comrade J
4th November 2011, 16:33
This is chit chat, it is non political. If you want to turn every discussion into a political one whilst licking Marx's testicles go ahead. Just realize it makes you look like an ass.

It's not chit-chat, it's Lit & Film so political analysis is acceptable.

However Hexen, your post doesn't add anything particularly constructive, seeing as you're not even sure of the terminology you're using, and you're unaware of a Marxist analysis on crime. Many Marxists have written on crime and the absolute inevitability of it in capitalism, try Antoni Negri for instance, who is a well-respected Marxist writer from the Italian Autonomist school that came about in the '60s. But perhaps you should create another thread for it as you said, if you haven't already.

Politics aside for now anyway, (sure this thread will do better without) this game looks incredible. I've played every GTA since the first one came out and GTA IV was by far the best, as it did away with the whole ridiculousness of its predecessors and instead focused on creating a living, vibrant city with a more realistic plot. Don't get me wrong - I loved the other games too, I just thought they were too absurd at times, like in San Andreas when you have to drop drugs to dealers from a plane and that kinda shit. All that is fine if you're aiming for a solely ridiculous game like in Saints Row, but when you mix it up with normal life activities like working out, getting a haircut or a burger etc. (and even 'normal' missions) it seems like the creators couldn't decide what they wanted it to be.

Hopefully GTA V will have the same feel as IV in that respect, but with a little more customisation for vehicles as that was the only thing I wish they'd kept from SA. I think animals are going to be in this one, which will be awesome. Wonder how people will react when you casually saunter past and cap their dog? :laugh:

Also, anyone remember the whole yeti myth from SA, and everyone was looking for it in the woods? There were a couple of bad photoshops about too and then Rockstar announced it wasn't real and there was no yeti in the game. Well maybe things are changing - check out the police logo from the trailer -

http://c3333424.r24.cf0.rackcdn.com/99e5edf5ecbe707dc47ed85c99a55f151e0e2c69.jpg__620x 311_q85.jpg

Franz Fanonipants
4th November 2011, 16:47
good shit about rdr

rdr is the Best Game

E: did you guys like la noire?

Manic Impressive
4th November 2011, 16:53
La Noire was good but waaaay to short I completed it the day it came out

Pirate Utopian
4th November 2011, 17:15
rdr is the Best Game

E: did you guys like la noire?

I loved the atmosphere and feel. It felt just like a film noir. The face mechanics was very well done and the new game modes like interrogation and clue searching are interesting. Good storyline, well written characters.

However the game was short and sometimes it's gameplay gets repetitive.

In the end I respect it because it's a part of R*'s experimentation and they're trying new things until they make the ultimate free world game. LA Noire was vital to their evolution.

Leonid Brozhnev
4th November 2011, 21:28
Also, anyone remember the whole yeti myth from SA, and everyone was looking for it in the woods? There were a couple of bad photoshops about too and then Rockstar announced it wasn't real and there was no yeti in the game. Well maybe things are changing - check out the police logo from the trailer -

Yeah, I remember that, I had a look all over San Andreas' files for reference to a Yeti/Big Foot/Sasquatch but found nothing. I doubt there will be a Yeti in this game as well, any references to a Yeti will be to drive those internet trolls wild.

The only true video game Yeti is the Skifree Yeti...

http://twotwistedfates.com/img_uploads/1298504224.gif

Rusty Shackleford
4th November 2011, 21:32
Rumor mill time!


http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/3553/article/rumor-exclusive-gta-5-info-leaked-by-rogue-games-journalist/

Commissar Rykov
4th November 2011, 22:28
rdr is the Best Game

E: did you guys like la noire?
I really enjoyed LA Noire and enjoyed the storyline but as others said it was short and I kind of hated the ending even though it really did work with the overall story arc. I was hoping to be able to kill all the corrupt cops and run off somewhere unfortunately no dice.

Comrade J
4th November 2011, 22:30
Yeah, I remember that, I had a look all over San Andreas' files for reference to a Yeti/Big Foot/Sasquatch but found nothing. I doubt there will be a Yeti in this game as well, any references to a Yeti will be to drive those internet trolls wild.

Maybe the case. Also they did have yetis in Red Dead Redemption so in a way they have already appeased those people. Still, I'd love just a glimpse of one during a high speed chase through the woods or something, where you're unable to stop to get a closer look.


Rumor mill time!

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/3553/article/rumor-exclusive-gta-5-info-leaked-by-rogue-games-journalist/

Poorly written and full of spelling mistakes, and we're supposed to believe this guy is a journalist? Also, why would he risk getting caught and losing his entire career (and therefore many future chances to have early access to games) just to tell people for free on the GTA forum about the game?

Leonid Brozhnev
4th November 2011, 22:36
Rumor mill time!


http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/3553/article/rumor-exclusive-gta-5-info-leaked-by-rogue-games-journalist/

I'm dubious... some of that stuff seems likely, but taking a look at his spelling and grammar makes me question the fact he's a 'journalist'... as internet trolls go, this one is pretty unsuccessful.

Rusty Shackleford
4th November 2011, 22:53
i was doubting the whole gas thing for cars. i mean really?

as for barricades, i think that would be an excellent option.

Manic Impressive
4th November 2011, 23:42
we should do something like that but use it for propaganda purposes. Like when there's a game coming out release a rumour like the one Rusty posted but put in a leftist message or something. Like claim that the storyline will be about ending wage labour or something. A few people will read it and think "end wage labour :confused:" and then some might investigate it further to find out what the fuck we're on about. It'll be lulzy but also a great way to get people interested.

Comrade J
4th November 2011, 23:51
we should do something like that but use it for propaganda purposes. Like when there's a game coming out release a rumour like the one Rusty posted but put in a leftist message or something. Like claim that the storyline will be about ending wage labour or something. A few people will read it and think "end wage labour :confused:" and then some might investigate it further to find out what the fuck we're on about. It'll be lulzy but also a great way to get people interested.

I'm all for ending wage labour, but that would be the shittest rumour ever about a game.

Manic Impressive
4th November 2011, 23:56
I'm all for ending wage labour, but that would be the shittest rumour ever about a game.
well not that specifically, that was just an example. I wasn't really going to put the effort in to think up a possible future rumour for a hypothetical future game. But I feel the example served it's purpose as you got what I meant, yeah?

La Comédie Noire
5th November 2011, 01:11
Unfortunately I sat out for LA Noire because I didn't have cash at the time, which is unusual for me because I own everything else by them.

Magón
5th November 2011, 01:19
i was doubting the whole gas thing for cars. i mean really?

as for barricades, i think that would be an excellent option.

It would be cool if you had to gas up your car, but then again if you were gassing up your car, they'd probably have to add more realistic car effects, and I don't think Rockstar wants to go with a full realism/simulator effect. I doubt it'll be in, but it would be cool to just fill up.

Rusty Shackleford
5th November 2011, 01:21
it would be cool. it would add a new twist to driving missions.

though, i highly doubt anything like that would be implemented.

xub3rn00dlex
5th November 2011, 01:21
It would be cool if you had to gas up your car, but then again if you were gassing up your car, they'd probably have to add more realistic car effects, and I don't think Rockstar wants to go with a full realism/simulator effect. I doubt it'll be in, but it would be cool to just fill up.

Didn't Mafia 2 have this?

Magón
5th November 2011, 01:25
Didn't Mafia 2 have this?

Don't know, never played it. Heard it was short and too linear.

IndependentCitizen
5th November 2011, 01:25
San Andreas was so gooooood, I want a re-make. I friggin' loved drive-bying cops whilst riding on a bmx..

Pirate Utopian
5th November 2011, 02:27
I think having to fill up your car with gas will be just an annoying inconvience, I'd just steal another car all the time. I hope it's not in GTA IV.

Mafia II was a bad game, I returned it the day after I bought it. Real shame because Mafia I was a good game.


Yeah, I remember that, I had a look all over San Andreas' files for reference to a Yeti/Big Foot/Sasquatch but found nothing. I doubt there will be a Yeti in this game as well, any references to a Yeti will be to drive those internet trolls wild.

They had bigfoot in RDR Undead Nightmare as a joke and the trophy for completing the stranger mission related to bigfoot was called "Six Years In The Making" as a reference to the fact that SA was made six years before Undead Nightmare.

Dogs On Acid
5th November 2011, 02:46
My best gta memory would have to be when I got 100% in Vice City, it was awesome because I worked it out so the last mission was the very last thing I had to do.

Maaan I remember this mission in vice city when you had to race this pimped out Stallion and you drove a piece of shit with wheels. It was impossible!

So I parked a cheetah a few meters away from the mission start, hopped out my piece of shit, jumped in the cheetah, and ONLY JUST finished ahead of that MoFo :cool:

Pirate Utopian
5th November 2011, 03:09
Worst thing about that race...

You race him to prove you're a better driver so he'll be your getaway driver (which is stupid, why would I want a worse driver if I can do better myself?) and when you actually rob the bank, he dies before he can do any driving.

La Comédie Noire
5th November 2011, 05:20
About that mission:

You can increase your share of the bank loot by killing off the safe cracker, something I never knew till I was just fucking around and killed him for shit and giggles.



Maaan I remember this mission in vice city when you had to race this pimped out Stallion and you drove a piece of shit with wheels. It was impossible!

So I parked a cheetah a few meters away from the mission start, hopped out my piece of shit, jumped in the cheetah, and ONLY JUST finished ahead of that MoFo :cool:

I did the same thing, but it's fairly simple with the sentinel they give you if you keep up with him till the one point where he fucks up, I think he over shoots a turn and crashes into a wall, not sure.

Comrade J
5th November 2011, 14:03
Lol, I like how we have Vice City missions in spoiler tags...

La Comédie Noire
5th November 2011, 15:43
^ Some people were a little too busy this past decade to sit down and play one of the best PS2 games from one of the most highly acclaimed series of all time. :p

On that note, I just started San Andreas again. I'm gonna try to get 100% because my nursing classes got pushed back a week due to downed power lines and I got no responsibilities.

Dogs On Acid
5th November 2011, 16:48
^ Some people were a little too busy this past decade to sit down and play one of the best PS2 games from one of the most highly acclaimed series of all time. :p

On that note, I just started San Andreas again. I'm gonna try to get 100% because my nursing classes got pushed back a week due to downed power lines and I got no responsibilities.

Reinstalled San Andreas yesterday. Good memories, but the graphics are so terrible :unsure:

Rusty Shackleford
5th November 2011, 20:09
Reinstalled San Andreas yesterday. Good memories, but the graphics are so terrible :unsure:
everything is just comical looking. especially the guns.

there are some grapics packs for the guns that make them look a million times better. pain in the ass to install though.

Leonid Brozhnev
5th November 2011, 23:25
I might reinstall San Andreas, but I will probably have to mod it to feckery to be happy with it. I spied an nice looking SA Graphics mod on Moddb.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/gta-san-andreas-hd

Rusty Shackleford
6th November 2011, 01:15
Since RDR is in the discussion (and i dont see a reason to split since this is basically a general R:star2: Games thread)

I was playing it again and goddamn i love it. I was out beaver hunting and some bear came up on me and i was like "hell no" and went into dead eye mode with my Mauser C96 and pumped its face full of 15 little lead pieces of love and the thing did a fucking back flip while getting shot in the face. I laughed. :lol:

La Comédie Noire
6th November 2011, 15:37
Yeah man I love West Elizabeth. I remember I was playing RDR and my dad came in, he's a working class dude who sees video games as a waste of money and time, and he was so awed by it that he sat and watched me play for like an hour.

He started telling me about westerns that he used to watch as a kid that it reminded him of.

I hope you can buy a cabin and hunt in the woods in the new gta.

Rusty Shackleford
6th November 2011, 18:51
RDR is cinematic excellence. My mom doesn't really care for videogames but with RDR shell occasionally watch the scenery and cutscenes and comment on the story line and all of that.

6th November 2011, 19:37
Wow. I played RDR and my grandma started talking about how nice it looked. Then she started talking about her childhood in Kashmir and her uncle who was some kind of commando and rode horses, shot guns, and what not.

La Comédie Noire
7th November 2011, 08:19
I had quite the shock when I popped GTA:SA into the ps2, I haven't played it since 2007. The graphics looked horrendous! But now after a few days of playing it I'm hooked and even think the graphics have charm in their own way. In terms of gameplay this games still got it. I've only done two story missions and I've already sunk 10 hours into it, collecting gang tags, doing R3 missions, doing racing, bmx challenges leveling up my character and his weapons ect.

It's going to be an awesome journey to 100% :)

Magón
8th November 2011, 05:21
Why is there such a debate on whether GTAV will have all three of the cities, or just Los Santos, when I look into things on the game? I'm really leaning more towards the single city idea, but damn, some people are just insane when it comes to debating on which it's going to be.

This is probably why I'm not such a gamer, and don't get involved so heavily (and for some emotionally) into these things.

La Comédie Noire
8th November 2011, 05:28
Why is there such a debate on whether GTAV will have all three of the cities, or just Los Santos, when I look into things on the game? I'm really leaning more towards the single city idea, but damn, some people are just insane when it comes to debating on which it's going to be.

This is probably why I'm not such a gamer, and don't get involved so heavily (and for some emotionally) into these things.

It gets really insane when you consider that Rockstar made a statement a day after the trailer was released that made it perfectly clear that Los Santos would be the only city.


We are very proud to officially announce that Grand Theft Auto V is in full development.

Developed by series creator Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches in the largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created.

A bold new direction in open-world freedom, storytelling, mission-based gameplay and online multiplayer, Grand Theft Auto V focuses on the pursuit of the almighty dollar in a re-imagined, present day Southern California.

They obviously did that so the more die hard fans wouldn't be disappointed when the two other cities didn't make an appearance. To be honest even though I'm a huge fan, I'm perfectly fine with one city.

Vendetta
8th November 2011, 15:37
It gets really insane when you consider that Rockstar made a statement a day after the trailer was released that made it perfectly clear that Los Santos would be the only city.



They obviously did that so the more die hard fans wouldn't be disappointed when the two other cities didn't make an appearance. To be honest even though I'm a huge fan, I'm perfectly fine with one city.

Los Santos was the best city anyway, IMHO.

(though I did enjoy car chases through those boonie towns, where you meet that one crazy lady).

Magón
8th November 2011, 22:33
It gets really insane when you consider that Rockstar made a statement a day after the trailer was released that made it perfectly clear that Los Santos would be the only city.



They obviously did that so the more die hard fans wouldn't be disappointed when the two other cities didn't make an appearance. To be honest even though I'm a huge fan, I'm perfectly fine with one city.

Yeah, it's all pretty stupid. I guess some people just can't comprehend a GTA game being set in San Andreas, minus two of the cities. But whatever, I think Los Santos was the best city anyway, and would be for a GTA story. The San Francisco part and Las Vegas parts weren't that great anyway, they were boring for me. And there's really not much I don't think they could do in both cities, unlike LA which has a lot of crime diversity. :lol:

La Comédie Noire
9th November 2011, 04:08
Yeah man Los Santos definitely had the strongest storyline and theme. I mean wearing the grove street colors, doing drive bys, getting gang tattoos, taking territory. It was just perfect. You even had the dramatic storyline with Brian's death and Carl's Mom's death. But then you go to the countryside and things just get silly and wacky.

tachosomoza
9th November 2011, 04:37
I don't know why people find GTA so fun...

The game literally solely consists of hijacking, killing people and blowing shit up.

What do you think the revolution is going to be, comrade? It's practice. :cool:

Rusty Shackleford
9th November 2011, 06:06
GTA:SA just has 'that feel' Maybe it was because you had both urban and rural environments. That and a damn good story and music. (GTA IV music sucked)


I really hope GTA V improves on it.

smellincoffee
10th November 2011, 00:50
Interested, but I still haven't played GTA IV because of the social club/online requirements. Looks like most games are going that way, though -- instead of paying for a finish product, we have to depend on some online service that may not be around a couple of years from now. That's not an attractive option to someone like me -- I'm still playing GTA3, Civ3, and even older games. :lol:

Leonid Brozhnev
10th November 2011, 23:15
The actor 'Ned Luke' may be providing the voice/face of the GTAV protagonist... or at least the suit guy in the video. Must say, this is the first 'rumour' I've heard that could prove to be true.

http://media.gtanet.com/gta-5/images/news/gta-v-ned-luke-protagonist.jpg

Magón
11th November 2011, 02:10
Interested, but I still haven't played GTA IV because of the social club/online requirements. Looks like most games are going that way, though -- instead of paying for a finish product, we have to depend on some online service that may not be around a couple of years from now. That's not an attractive option to someone like me -- I'm still playing GTA3, Civ3, and even older games. :lol:

What Social Club/Online requirements? I played GTAIV without any requirements but the system. :confused:

Anyway, never heard of this Ned Luke guy, but looks like he could be it. They must have used the same tech from LA Noire, for GTAV.

A Revolutionary Tool
11th November 2011, 05:29
I don't know if it's been said yet but we should all exchange our gamertags so we can fuck shit up together :D.

I got a PS3, I'm "itstewelltime", if you're going to add me at least accompany it with a PM saying who you are on here so I know. Just got RDR yesterday and Fallout New Vegas so I'm going to be living on my PS3 for a while :)

A Revolutionary Tool
11th November 2011, 05:30
Interested, but I still haven't played GTA IV because of the social club/online requirements. Looks like most games are going that way, though -- instead of paying for a finish product, we have to depend on some online service that may not be around a couple of years from now. That's not an attractive option to someone like me -- I'm still playing GTA3, Civ3, and even older games. :lol:
I don't think that stuff is mandatory. Like I just got Red Dead Redemption and it gave me the option to join the Social Club or not.

Pirate Utopian
13th November 2011, 15:01
Wow. I played RDR and my grandma started talking about how nice it looked. Then she started talking about her childhood in Kashmir and her uncle who was some kind of commando and rode horses, shot guns, and what not.


RDR is cinematic excellence. My mom doesn't really care for videogames but with RDR shell occasionally watch the scenery and cutscenes and comment on the story line and all of that.


Yeah man I love West Elizabeth. I remember I was playing RDR and my dad came in, he's a working class dude who sees video games as a waste of money and time, and he was so awed by it that he sat and watched me play for like an hour.

He started telling me about westerns that he used to watch as a kid that it reminded him of.

My dad bought me some PS store money for some DLC (I have all RDR dlc) and he was curious to game I showed it and he was really impressed too.

We talked for like half an hour about the game and westerns and shit.

Franz Fanonipants
13th November 2011, 21:38
basically RDR is set during the middle of my master's thesis.

i don't necessarily think there's an easy correlation there, but, you know.