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Warpolicy
30th October 2011, 04:51
a simple thread, "what quote sums up your political position or what drives you on?"

Broletariat
30th October 2011, 04:58
"Das Kapital Vols 1-4"

It wouldn't fit in one post, so I shortened it.

Leftsolidarity
30th October 2011, 05:16
My own quote that is in my signature. It makes me feel cool quoting myself.

Property Is Robbery
30th October 2011, 05:38
"Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - though they are quite numerous - is no freedom at all" - Rosa Luxemburg

"It's class warfare, my class is winning, but they shouldn't be." - Warren Buffet.

Apoi_Viitor
30th October 2011, 05:58
Humanity won’t be happy till the last capitalist is hung with the guts of the last bureaucrat.

30th October 2011, 05:59
"Shimmy shimmy yah, shimmy yam shimmy yay, gimme the mic so I can take it away."
-Ol Dirty Bastard

Black_Rose
30th October 2011, 06:45
"I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth."

- Revelation 3:15-16

It sums up my thoughts on lukewarm liberal leftists.

rundontwalk
30th October 2011, 07:12
''And if there's any hope for America, it lies in a revolution, and if there's any hope for a revolution in America, it lies in getting Elvis Presley to become Che Guevara.'' - Phil Ochs

:lol:

GatesofLenin
30th October 2011, 07:15
V.I Lenin:

Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.

Revolution starts with U
30th October 2011, 07:20
"Get off my back damnit" ~The cries of the oppressed everywhere and everywhen. :thumbup1:

Os Cangaceiros
30th October 2011, 07:54
"foward through the shit!" - sergei nechayev

Art Vandelay
30th October 2011, 08:52
the freedom to all is essential to my freedom - bakunin

pert
13th November 2011, 16:42
"Don't be deceived when they tell you that things are better now.Even if there is no poverty to be seen; because the poverty’s been hidden, even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which industries foist upon you, and even if it seems to you that you never had so much. That is the slogan of those who still have much more than you.
Don't be taken in when they pat you paternally on the shoulder and say that there is no inequality worth speaking of and no more reason to fight, because if you believe them they will be completely in charge in their marble homes and granite banks from which they rob the people of the world under the pretence of bringing them culture.
Watch out! For soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces." The Marat Sade

Ocean Seal
14th November 2011, 22:09
End capitalism and replace it with the economic rule of the working class.
-Idk if anyone has said this before, but it doesn't seem to catchy so I'm going to claim it.

Also
"Most of the world is capitalist, most of the world is poor"

SocialistTommy
14th November 2011, 22:13
"Bollocks to [David] Cameron !, Bollocks to [Nick] Clegg and yes....Bollocks to you too [George] Osborne !!!!'

I think it goes well with some aggression :)

Tim Cornelis
14th November 2011, 22:20
"If the individual has the right to govern himself, all external governance is tyranny"

Susurrus
14th November 2011, 22:34
"From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

W1N5T0N
14th November 2011, 22:39
"Take with 5 ounces of salt and no degree of seriousness".

dont remember who said it, but it was a cool person on this forum. forgive me.


oh, and that iron felix guy (look in signature). ::thumbup1:

The Douche
14th November 2011, 22:40
"Let every dirty, lousy tramp arm himself with a revolver or knife on the steps of the palace of the rich and stab or shoot their owners as they come out. Let us kill them without mercy, and let it be a war of extermination and without pity."

Lucy Parsons.

Azraella
14th November 2011, 22:42
Veita hinn er vćttki veit margr verđr af aurum api mađr er auđigr annarr óauđigr skylit ţann vítka vár.

Translation: He does not know, he who knows nothing: many a man becomes a fool through ores [money]; one man is rich, another poor; he must not blame his woe on him.

W1N5T0N
14th November 2011, 22:42
"Let every dirty, lousy tramp arm himself with a revolver or knife on the steps of the palace of the rich and stab or shoot their owners as they come out. Let us kill them without mercy, and let it be a war of extermination and without pity."

Lucy Parsons.

sorry to intervene, but replace "tramps" with "jews" and that could be verbatim Hitler. just dont like the whole "extermination" thing.

The Douche
14th November 2011, 23:30
sorry to intervene, but replace "tramps" with "jews" and that could be verbatim Hitler. just dont like the whole "extermination" thing.

If we replaced "tramp" with "jew" then Hitler would be advocating that the jews kill all the capitalists?

I assume you meant that we replace "owners" with "jews".



You could replace lots of things with lots of things and change their meaning. Personally, I am all in favor of the extermination of the bourgeoise.

tir1944
14th November 2011, 23:38
Personally, I am all in favor of the extermination of the bourgeoise. You can physically exterminate every capitalist in the world but that wouldn't neccessarily/automatically bring about socialism...:laugh:
The point is that the working class must rise up and exterminate the bourgeoisie as a class,if we want to have socialism.

Ocean Seal
15th November 2011, 00:28
sorry to intervene, but replace "tramps" with "jews" and that could be verbatim Hitler. just dont like the whole "extermination" thing.
No, it would be more akin to replacing rich with Jew, but the label is objectively different. Rich is a changeable property and the rich necessarily oppress us, the Jews do not oppress us and ethnic Judaism isn't a changeable property. And yes, I agree that extermination isn't only bad as propaganda, but it's also generally bad. We liquidate the ruling class as a class not as people. In doing so we take their property and capital and leave them to do proletarian labor.

Also the quote you had earlier is from the user Fawkes.

Pretty Flaco
15th November 2011, 00:42
"In the social production of their life, men enter into definite relations that are indispensable and independent of their will; these relations of production correspond to a definite stage of development of their material forces of production. The sum total of these relations of production constitutes the economic structure of society — the real foundation, on which rises a legal and political superstructure and to which correspond definite forms of social consciousness. The mode of production of material life determines the social, political and intellectual life process in general. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness."

I like what Marx has to say about class and social relations.

eyeheartlenin
15th November 2011, 08:09
"The world political situation as a whole is chiefly characterized by a historical crisis of the leadership of the proletariat." L.D. Trotsky, The Transitional Program (1938)

It was true in '38, it's true today.

* * *

"Marx deduced from the whole history of socialism and the political struggle that the state was bound to disappear, and that the transitional form of its disappearance (the transition from state to non-state) would be the 'proletariat organized as the ruling class'....

"The Commune is the first attempt by a proletarian revolution to smash the bourgeois state machine; and it is the political form 'at last discovered,' by which the smashed state machine can and must be replaced."

Lenin, State and Revolution, 1917

dodger
15th November 2011, 08:23
" Could Having More Women On Financial Boards Have Stopped Occupy Wall Street?"
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God give me strength....sweet Jesus.....if I get enough "THANKS" ....I will start a new thread...and permanently ban myself from REVLEFT!!!!

Sputnik_1
15th November 2011, 08:28
The great appear great in our eyes only because we kneel. Let us rise!
- Loustalot's motto (1789)

Coyote
15th November 2011, 08:29
“Let me say, at the risk of seeming ridiculous, that the true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love.” - Che Guevara

"The most important thing when ill is to never lose heart." - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Blake's Baby
15th November 2011, 09:44
For the international power of the workers' councils.



That's as close as anything to summing up my political views in a sentence. The two in my sig - 'No War but the Class War' and 'destroy all nations' also address pretty central concerns.

Zostrianos
15th November 2011, 10:16
A few of my favourite quotes (in addition to the ones in my signature):

"Property is theft. Nobody 'owns' anything. When you die, it all stays here." - George Carlin

"Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible." - Einstein

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free" - Goethe

"Our object in the construction of the state is the greatest happiness of the whole, and not that of any one class. " - Plato

Lanky Wanker
15th November 2011, 13:52
"Smoke that shit."

Am I allowed to post that here?

Nah but for real, the Mark Twain one in my signature basically sums up everything in my head. Another one my dad's friend gave me was "never get your hopes up and that way you'll never be disappointed", which I bear in mind every time I get excited about something that's about to happen (...hey hey).

Искра
15th November 2011, 13:59
The point is that the working class must rise up and exterminate the bourgeoisie as a class,if we want to have socialism.
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii200/pistalengyel/kapela/stalin.jpg
You fucking liberal!

ClearlyChrist
15th November 2011, 14:25
'For A Bureaucrat, The World Is Just An Object To Be Manipulated By Him' - Karl Marx

ZeroNowhere
15th November 2011, 14:39
"And in the same manner, which is as simple as it is splendid, Herr Heinzen has resolved all economic conflicts. He has regulated property according to the rational principles corresponding to an honest bourgeois equity. And please do not object that the “rational rules” of property are precisely the “economic laws” on whose cold-blooded inevitability all well-meaning “measures” will necessarily founder, though they be recommended by Incas and Campe’s Books for Children and cherished by the stoutest patriots!"

- Karl Marx.

"The decontamination to which we dedicate 90% of our humble work will be continued a long time after us and be realised only in the distant future. This decontamination combats the epidemic - always and everywhere dangerous, of those who - in all places and at all times - innovate, bring up to date, renovate and revise."

- Amadeo Bordiga.

Rafiq
15th November 2011, 15:00
The one where marx talks about communism being a process and not a state of affairs which is to be achieved

hatzel
15th November 2011, 15:07
"I work in the field of art, and you know how during a period of Marxist ideology, fewer people are inclined to believe in the power of the culture as a whole: they believe in the revolutionary potential of economics, class struggle theory [...] Therefore it’s time to show that art means the power of creativity, and it’s time to define art in a larger way, to include science and religion too." - Beuys.

Sean
15th November 2011, 15:10
Many great people have said many things much more succinctly than others could ever attempt to. It's brilliant shorthand and nothing pumps me up than a few rousing words that fit a moment. That does not mean you shouldn't try to explain your feelings and ideas (and not just explain a quote you like and think sums you up) yourself.

A quick and memorable line, said by someone well known can be - if not a lazy argument to authority - a cheap way of conferring on yourself another person's wisdom: he said it, I agree, therefore I am as wise as he. Younger people mainly do this and it causes a lot of embarrassment and skin crawling, the perfect example being the Nietzsche "God is dead" quip used to show how stone cold and smart you are.

What I'm saying is, if you come across a famous line and say "wow, took the words right out of my mouth" don't let it take the words right out of your mouth. Parables and anecdotes are made for recycling, a one liner is at best the summation of someone else you're aping.

Here's the litmus test. If you love a quote because of its meaning, and not because of what it says about you, then when you recite it be prepared to give complete context. What was said before, what was said after. What did it mean then? What does it still mean now?

Otherwise you might as well be running around in a Darth Vader mask telling strangers they need back-paid on your child support!

ZeroNowhere
15th November 2011, 15:31
Many great people have said many things much more succinctly than others could ever attempt to. It's brilliant shorthand and nothing pumps me up than a few rousing words that fit a moment. That does not mean you shouldn't try to explain your feelings and ideas (and not just explain a quote you like and think sums you up) yourself.

A quick and memorable line, said by someone well known can be - if not a lazy argument to authority - a cheap way of conferring on yourself another person's wisdom: he said it, I agree, therefore I am as wise as he. Younger people mainly do this and it causes a lot of embarrassment and skin crawling, the perfect example being the Nietzsche "God is dead" quip used to show how stone cold and smart you are.

What I'm saying is, if you come across a famous line and say "wow, took the words right out of my mouth" don't let it take the words right out of your mouth. Parables and anecdotes are made for recycling, a one liner is at best the summation of someone else you're aping.

Here's the litmus test. If you love a quote because of its meaning, and not because of what it says about you, then when you recite it be prepared to give complete context. What was said before, what was said after. What did it mean then? What does it still mean now?

Otherwise you might as well be running around in a Darth Vader mask telling strangers they need back-paid on your child support!
So is that your chosen quote? Who said it?

W1N5T0N
15th November 2011, 20:45
haha i want to see the person who said
"we must exterminate the bourgeoisie".
So does that mean you would exterminate me?
for fucks sake this is an internet forum, not some kind of shitty hate breed place for social outcasts with delusions of grandeur.

El Louton
15th November 2011, 20:48
'The first rule of fight club....

The Douche
15th November 2011, 20:50
haha i want to see the person who said
"we must exterminate the bourgeoisie".
So does that mean you would exterminate me?
for fucks sake this is an internet forum, not some kind of shitty hate breed place for social outcasts with delusions of grandeur.

Do you not understand that communism does away with the bourgeoise as a class?

I'm pretty sure you do. Lucy Parsons' husband was one of the Haymarket martyrs, her statement is perfectly in line with communist thought (the extermination of the bourgeoise as a class), and makes perfect sense considering the man she loved was framed and lynched by the state.


And what sort of delusions of grandeur are you referring to? Class warfare is a delusion of grandeur in your eyes?

A social outcast? Bro, I'm alienated as fuck, just like most proletarians are. But I'm not surprised you don't understand that, or the quote, given your statement of being bourgeois and seemingly proud of it.

Book O'Dead
15th November 2011, 21:13
a simple thread, "what quote sums up your political position or what drives you on?"

This is one of many that I have etched to memory but possibly my favorite:

To address the workingman without a strictkly scientific idea and a positive doctrine ammounts to playing an empty and dishonest preaching game in which it is assumed, on the one hand, an inspired prophet and on the other nothing but asses listening to him with gaping mouths. Ignorance never helped anyone!

Karl Marx

Book O'Dead
15th November 2011, 21:18
"Smoke that shit."

Am I allowed to post that here?

Nah but for real, the Mark Twain one in my signature basically sums up everything in my head. Another one my dad's friend gave me was "never get your hopes up and that way you'll never be disappointed", which I bear in mind every time I get excited about something that's about to happen (...hey hey).

Reminds me of this one:

I never eat asparragus, it make my urine smell.

Babe Ruth

Iron Felix
15th November 2011, 21:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1XxSBDemcs&feature=player_embedded

W1N5T0N
16th November 2011, 20:10
im not proud of any fucking class. Because some of the stuff i see here does not see bourgeoisie as people, but as some homogenous group of devils. i recall a certain communist saying "the capitalists are trapped in the system just as much as the workers."
now, see, you have never seen me face to face, had a actual conversation with me, you dont know if im "bourgeois" or "prole" or maybe something inbetween.
you judge pretty quickly.
also "alienated as fuck" is different from trying to be a "tough communist" on an internet forum.

:rolleyes:

Parvati
16th November 2011, 20:25
My classical one should be Mao's
"Dare to fight, dare to win!"

More specifically, one quote from one of my comrades :
"If you want to do something, you will find 1000 ways. If you don't want to do something, you will find 1000 excuses"

CommieTroll
16th November 2011, 21:18
"Four walls are three too many for a prison — you only need one for an execution."
Juan Domingo de Monteverde

hatzel
16th November 2011, 21:46
"Four walls are three too many for a prison — you only need one for an execution."

Seriously? That's the quote that:


sums up your political position or what drives you on?

Fuck.

The Douche
16th November 2011, 22:34
im not proud of any fucking class. Because some of the stuff i see here does not see bourgeoisie as people, but as some homogenous group of devils. i recall a certain communist saying "the capitalists are trapped in the system just as much as the workers."
now, see, you have never seen me face to face, had a actual conversation with me, you dont know if im "bourgeois" or "prole" or maybe something inbetween.
you judge pretty quickly.
also "alienated as fuck" is different from trying to be a "tough communist" on an internet forum.

:rolleyes:

I'm pretty proud to be working class, I'm proud that I and those who came before me are the ones who have built the world, I'm proud that we are the ones who will create a new and better world.

Capitalists trapped in this system? Ok. Yeah I guess, some in certain ways are, and they may side with the proletariat when the time comes. But you'll have to forgive me if I'm not inclined to shed tears over the oppression of the bourgeoisie.

No I don't know your class background. But you did imply that you were bourgeois here:


"we must exterminate the bourgeoisie".
So does that mean you would exterminate me?

I am not trying to be a "tough communist on an internet forum". In this thread we were asked to post quotes which are inspirational to us as communists. I happen to find that quote inspirational and I happen to identify with it.

As a broke ass young adult, who has been forced into really shitty conditions by the ruling class, the idea of us dirty lousy tramps exterminating the class which makes us dirty and lousy strikes a chord with me. Sorry if you don't get it, maybe you just haven't seen what I've seen, or maybe, I dunno, you just don't get the quote...

9
16th November 2011, 22:36
cliche overload

ZeroNowhere
16th November 2011, 22:36
Capitalists trapped in this system? Ok. Yeah I guess, some in certain ways are, and they may side with the proletariat when the time comes. But you'll have to forgive me if I'm not inclined to shed tears over the oppression of the bourgeoisie.
I'd forgive you if you're not inclined to shed tears over the oppression of the proletariat either. In fact, I'm wholly unconcerned about tears.

The Douche
16th November 2011, 22:46
I'd forgive you if you're not inclined to shed tears over the oppression of the proletariat either. In fact, I'm wholly unconcerned about tears.

Now whos the internet tough guy?;)

ZeroNowhere
16th November 2011, 22:48
Now whos the internet tough guy?;)
Not me, I'm the mechanical Marxist. I would only be an internet tough guy if I said that, if you cried, I would defenestrate your rectum.

VivaCastro
16th November 2011, 23:13
One about the police

Bullied as children, bullies as adults.

CommieTroll
16th November 2011, 23:22
Seriously? That's the quote that:



Fuck.

To a small extent but I posted it mostly as a joke:laugh:
I don't really think there is a quote that sums up my political philosophy

S.Artesian
16th November 2011, 23:24
Just 1 of many:

This is a chance

to dance

Our way

Out of our constrictions.

--George Clinton, Parliament-Funkadelics, "One Nation Under a Groove"

Marxaveli
17th November 2011, 00:51
"Democracy is the road to Socialism"

Cencus
17th November 2011, 01:18
Power attracts the corruptable.

the Left™
17th November 2011, 01:36
There must be Expropriation. The well-being of all—the end; expropriation—the means. --Kropotkin

S.Artesian
17th November 2011, 01:50
Another one;

Ripley, Aliens: All right, I'm in.

Spets
17th November 2011, 02:04
Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. MLK

S.Artesian
17th November 2011, 18:02
And another one from Blade Runner:

Tyrell: "More human than human" is our motto.

Lanky Wanker
17th November 2011, 23:33
Reminds me of this one:

I never eat asparragus, it make my urine smell.

Babe Ruth

I can honestly say that asparagus piss is one of the worst smells I've ever come across in my life.

NewLeft
18th November 2011, 06:10
"If I can't dance, I don't want to be in your revolution."

S.Artesian
18th November 2011, 06:11
Or this:

"Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?"

W1N5T0N
18th November 2011, 20:35
Lt. Aldo Raine: You probably heard we ain't in the prisoner-takin' business; we in the killin' Nazi business. And cousin, business is a-boomin'.

black magick hustla
18th November 2011, 20:50
"at daggers drawn with the existent"

"we are not afraid of the abyss. water is the most beautiful when precipitating"

"nothing human is alien to me"

The Douche
18th November 2011, 20:52
"at daggers drawn with the existent"

You done stole this off my facebook profile picture!

19th November 2011, 00:28
I have many actually.

"Please nigga, I'm immune to all viruses; I get that cocaine, it cleans out my sinuses"
-Ol Dirty Bastard

"Keep it good kids. Cause you know I love you. I'ma always love you, foreva!"
-Ol Dirty Bastard

"Hop up off my car, then I pop my roof, thats just how I do, eat that Wonton soup."
-Based God.

"Y’all know they had the ODB locked down, right? Well, I’m here to tell you that they can’t keep me down. Now I’m free, and I’m out there like a bird flying around, so y’all better leave some birdseed on your windowsills, because I may be flying by your house"
-Ol' Dirty Bastard

W1N5T0N
19th November 2011, 11:37
This city is dying of rabies. The best I can do to wipe random flecks of foam away from its mouth?"
-Rorschach

fuck yeah. :cool:

Mr. Natural
19th November 2011, 14:59
"We shall have an association, in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all." (Manifesto)

This quotation aptly summarizes the organization of life, anarchism, and communism, and opposes capitalist relations. Marx and Engels composed the lyrics to my song!

Misanthrope
19th November 2011, 15:00
"Fuck the world, don't ask me for shit And everything you get ya gotta work hard for it " - Christopher Wallace

9
19th November 2011, 17:07
"at daggers drawn with the existent"

What is this even supposed to mean

Manic Impressive
19th November 2011, 17:40
"Fuck the world, don't ask me for shit And everything you get ya gotta work hard for it " - Christopher Wallace
That sounds more like Ayn Rand to me.

black magick hustla
20th November 2011, 03:50
What is this even supposed to mean

http://anti-politics.net/distro/text/daggers.html

meaningless insurrecto sloganneering

Os Cangaceiros
20th November 2011, 04:16
"the people" and the working class have nothing in common - Joe Hill

we are not interested in a universal humanism which finds origin and justification in the French bourgeois revolution of 1789. The declaration of the rights of man, a banner waved by all of the democratic governments in power today, deals with an abstract man who is identified with the bourgeois ideal. - alfredo bonanno

^Two I used to have as a signature.

Rocky Rococo
20th November 2011, 04:31
Because even the greatest loss can be the ultimate victory:

"If it had not been for these things, I might have lived out my life talking at street corners to scorning men.

I might have died, unmarked, unknown, a failure. Now we are not a failure. This is our career and our triumph.

Never in our full life could we hope to do such work for tolerance, for justice, for man's understanding of man, as now we do by accident
.
Our words - our lives - our pains - nothing! The taking of our lives - lives of a good shoemaker and a poor fish peddler - all! That last moment belong to us - that agony is our triumph."

~Bartolomeo Vanzetti

mrmikhail
20th November 2011, 05:37
Life is not an easy matter... You cannot live through it without falling into frustration and cynicism unless you have before you a great idea which raises you above personal misery, above weakness, above all kinds of perfidy and baseness. -Leon Trotsky

This quote reminds me that no matter how bad life gets, you can always get through it by having a clear goal that drives you forward and gives you strength.

CommieTroll
22nd November 2011, 16:31
'The first rule of fight club....

The first rule of Thesaurus Club is, you don't talk about, mention, speak of, discuss or chat about Thesaurus Club.

Inner Peace
22nd November 2011, 16:41
Death To Capitalism freedom of the people

Smyg
22nd November 2011, 16:46
V is awesome, no point in denying it.

No. This is only the land of take-what-you-want. Anarchy means "without leaders", not "without order". With anarchy comes an age of ordnung, of true order, which is to say voluntary order... this age of ordung will begin when the mad and incoherent cycle of verwirrung that these bulletins reveal has run its course... This is not anarchy, Eve. This is chaos.



Anarchy wears two faces, both Creator and Destroyer. Thus Destroyers topple empires; make a canvas of clean rubble where creators can then build a better world. Rubble, once achieved makes further ruins' means irrelevant. Away with our explosives, then! Away with our Destroyers! They have no place within our better world. But let us raise a toast to all our bombers, all our bastards, most unlovely and most unforgivable, let's drink their health, then meet with them no more.


There's no flesh or blood within this cloak to kill. There's only an idea. Ideas are bulletproof.


The flames of Freedom, how lovely, how just. Ahh, my precious Anarchy... "O beauty, 'til now I never knew thee".


Sweet, sweet comic version V.

Zostrianos
23rd November 2011, 06:42
And how could I forget:

"There will be no end to the troubles of states, or of humanity itself, till philosophers become kings in this world, or till those we now call kings and rulers really and truly become philosophers, and political power and philosophy thus come into the same hands." - Plato

Die Rote Fahne
23rd November 2011, 06:53
The death moan if capitalism will be celebrated with the birth cry of socialism - A DRF lame and original

RebelDog
23rd November 2011, 07:24
We will ask nothing. We will demand nothing. We will take, occupy.

May 68 slogan

Red Noob
28th November 2011, 09:07
"Time is the room of human development. A man who has no free time to dispose of, whose whole lifetime, apart from the mere physical interruptions by sleep, meals, and so forth, is absorbed by his labour for the capitalist, is less than a beast of burden. He is a mere machine for producing Foreign Wealth, broken in body and brutalised in mind." - Marx

thriller
28th November 2011, 17:16
"A new discussion of an age old question, an age old method towards a new direction. When the goings tough, we'll bite the hand that feeds break the fist that abuses, be the voice of truth in a world so truthless. So juvenile, a stab in the back with a smile." - Dillinger Four. Pretty much sums up the way current politics are dealt with, and how I deal with them myself.

Rooster
28th November 2011, 17:31
Dum spiro spero! [While there's life, there's hope!]...If I were one of the celestial bodies, I would look with complete detachment upon this miserable ball of dust and dirt....I would shine upon the good and the evil alike....But I am a man. World history which to you, dispassionate gobbler of science, to you, book-keeper of eternity, seems only a negligible moment in the balance of time, is to me everything! As long as I breathe, I shall fight for the future, that radiant future in which man, strong and beautiful, will become master of the drifting stream of his history and will direct it towards the boundless horizon of beauty, joy and happiness!...


The nineteenth century has in many ways satisfied and has in even more ways deceived the hopes of the optimist....It has compelled him to transfer most of his hopes to the twentieth century. Whenever the optimist was confronted by an atrocious fact, he exclaimed: What, and this can happen on the threshold of the twentieth century! When he drew wonderful pictures of the harmonious future, he placed them in the twentieth century.


[...]



--Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope! thunders the twentieth century in salvos of fire and in the rumbling of guns.


--Surrender, you pathetic dreamer. Here I am, your long awaited twentieth century, your "future".


--No, replies the unhumbled optimist: You--you are only the present.


Trotsky 1901


Sorry, mines is kinda long... I'm not one for catchy catechisms.

The Young Pioneer
30th November 2011, 21:26
"Is it not possible to eat me without insisting that I sing praises of my devourer?"
-Fyodor Dostoevsky

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
-Mohandas Gandhi

Azraella
30th November 2011, 22:56
We, mankind, contain the possibilities of the earth, immense future, and can realise more and more of them on condition that we increase our knowledge and our love. That, it seems to me, is the distillation of The Phenomenon of Man. -- Teilhard

Tim Finnegan
30th November 2011, 23:10
"We want bread, and roses too!"

Not a particularly original one, but damn near perfect.

1st December 2011, 06:08
"We want bread, and roses too!"

LaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAaaame.

Tim Finnegan
1st December 2011, 13:41
LaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAaaame.
Not sufficiently steeped in irony?

Meridian
1st December 2011, 13:53
And how could I forget:

"There will be no end to the troubles of states, or of humanity itself, till philosophers become kings in this world, or till those we now call kings and rulers really and truly become philosophers, and political power and philosophy thus come into the same hands." - Plato

And what good would that accomplish? It seems to me near true already. A ruling class even more aloof and distanced from people's daily struggle for survival?

Meditation
1st December 2011, 13:54
If you die in an elevator, be sure to push the Up button.

2nd December 2011, 03:04
Not sufficiently steeped in irony?

yup.

Geiseric
2nd December 2011, 05:26
"The end justifies the means, as long as something justifies the end."

That's a Trotsky quote that I joke around with people about, saying that he was pretty methodical, kinda like a serial killer.

"Lenin was sent into Russia by the Germans in the same way that you might send a phial containing a culture of typhoid or cholera to be poured into the water supply of a great city, and it worked with amazing accuracy."
-Chuchill on Lenin

"If I had been an Italian, I am sure I would have been entirely with you from the beginning to the end of your victorious struggle against the bestial appetites and passions of Leninism."
-Chuchill on Mussolini

Apparently there's a bunch that are also pretty funny where churchill says that he more or less loves hitler, so i'd recommend looking those up if you need to persuade people that Churchill was a huge dick.

Kadir Ateş
2nd December 2011, 05:53
"I tried to pay attention but attention paid me"

- Drake, "She Will"

MarxSchmarx
3rd December 2011, 02:42
As I have in my sig (in English):



The light of the Red dawn
Already proclaims
The life that is to come

CommieTroll
3rd December 2011, 03:10
''There go the people. I must follow them for I am their leader.'' Alexandre Ledru-Rollin

3rd December 2011, 05:55
Ok for serious this time:

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and capital."

-Benito Mussolini