Lumpen Peasants

[Agnapostate]

Are there lumpen rural peasants that form a distinct class or sub-class?

[Rusty Shackleford]

i think the peasantry is and always will be peasantry unless freed from bondage to the land and turned into 'free labor.' (i.e. proletarian) Now, with the proletariat, there is a 'sub-class' known as the lumpen proletariat that has no real meaningful connection to any end of the means of production. Their existence is on survival and/or based on 'black market' non-productive shuffling of goods and other forms of criminality like theft. Not to say lumpen proletarians are 'bad' but their preoccupations with survival make them a non revolutionary sect within the proletariat.

Individual lumpen proles may be revolutionary, but as a sub-sect it is not because if it has no relations to MoPs then it has no real class interest besides self-interest without any forethought.

I hope i explained that. If im incorrect then please correct me.


i dont really think a lumpen peasant can really exist. At best, a person may just transform into a vagrant or a lumpen prole.