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ComradeRobertRiley
5th November 2003, 13:05
The case is a classic David and Goliath trial of strength between George Bush's superpower and the smallest indigenous people on earth.

Lawyers representing the Inuit claim their survival is at stake.

"I think its in the world's interest that this last surviving group of polar Eskimos cannot be allowed to disappear and perish," says lead attorney Christian Harlang.

BBC report - Inuits v USA (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3236083.stm)

Desert Fox
5th November 2003, 16:24
Yet again people exploited by the USA. What else is new, but I think that the US are cowards just to face such little amount of people as superpower of the world <_<

ComradeRobertRiley
6th November 2003, 10:26
Why hasnt any cappie wanker replied DF??

The US has its dirty bent fingers in every pie around the world

Desert Fox
6th November 2003, 16:10
Since they are probally ashamed this time, that their petty goverment has gone too far again but this is really pushing the limit. Well even tossers have some sort of feeling :lol:

Loknar
6th November 2003, 18:19
I am sure if the USSR had a base there you&#39;d say "well it&#39;s in Russia’s strategic interests".


Anyway, I am man enough to admit my country is wrong here. The base shouldn&#39;t have been built there in the first place. However some of you guys typically place a double standard on everything. USSR attacked Finland, I am sure no big deal there right? But DAMN the US for attacking Grenada.

FistFullOfSteel
6th November 2003, 18:26
U.S is pissing me of right now...

ComradeRobertRiley
6th November 2003, 20:24
Loknar if the situation was reversed and it was the USSR no I would not support the USSR, they would be wrong too. as for grenada and finland, im not shore what happened their (a bit of history im not up on) but I cannot speak for everyone just myself, and I base each act on its merits, if I think the US is in the right, I WILL say so.

Im not racist against the US, im just generally against its policies/actions.


P.S. if you have any links(as non biased in either direction) on Grenada and Finland id apreciate it.

atlanticche
6th November 2003, 21:10
the finnish don&#39;t care about the fact that the USSR attacked them as far as i can tell, since i went their wearing my red army hat with in full view the hammer and sicle, to which no one carred, i even had a connversation with a pro soviet fin-guy


also if anyones read the cuban missile crisis thing on marxists.org, you would know that American went as far as putting nuclear missiles in northern japan without japan&#39;s government even knowing and no one really complained

Soviet power supreme
6th November 2003, 21:22
the finnish don&#39;t care about the fact that the USSR attacked them as far as i can tell, since i went their wearing my red army hat with in full view the hammer and sicle, to which no one carred, i even had a connversation with a pro soviet fin-guy

You really can&#39;t compare today and 1940&#39;s.
There weren&#39;t so much communists those days here in Finland.
If you ask this question from Finnish veterans I think that they care.
After all Finland lost about 85000 in Winter war and the following war and Lappland&#39;s war.

atlanticche
6th November 2003, 21:32
their cant be that many veterans left, its so bloody cold their

Loknar
7th November 2003, 02:48
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2003, 09:24 PM
Loknar if the situation was reversed and it was the USSR no I would not support the USSR, they would be wrong too. as for grenada and finland, im not shore what happened their (a bit of history im not up on) but I cannot speak for everyone just myself, and I base each act on its merits, if I think the US is in the right, I WILL say so.

Im not racist against the US, im just generally against its policies/actions.


P.S. if you have any links(as non biased in either direction) on Grenada and Finland id apreciate it.
Sure

I have found www.onwar.com to be unbiased source of information.


http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/index.htm (Index)

http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/fax/finla...ssofinn1939.htm (http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/fax/finland/frussofinn1939.htm) (The Winter war)



State Entry Exit Combat Forces Population Losses
Finnland 1939 1940 80000 4000000 40000
Russia 1939 1940 4000000 172000000 50000

Russo-Finnish War... also called WINTER WAR (Nov. 30, 1939-March 12, 1940), war waged by the Soviet Union against Finland at the beginning of World War II, following the conclusion of the German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact (Aug. 23, 1939). After Finland had refused to grant the Soviets a naval base and other concessions in the fall of 1939, Soviet troops totaling about one million men attacked Finland on several fronts. The heavily outnumbered Finns put up a skillful and effective defense that winter, and the Red Army made little progress. In February 1940, however, the Soviets used massive artillery bombardments to breach the Mannerheim Line (the Finns&#39; southern defensive barrier stretching across the Karelian Isthmus), after which they streamed northward across the isthmus to the Finnish city of Viipuri (Vyborg). Unable to secure help from Britain and France, the exhausted Finns made peace on Soviet terms on March 12, 1940, agreeing to the cession of western Karelia and to the construction of a Soviet naval base on the Hanko Peninsula.


http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/gap/grena...grenada1983.htm (http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/gap/grenada/fgrenada1983.htm) (Grenada)




At dawn, on October 25, 1983, US Marines, Army Rangers, Navy SEal commandos and elements of the 82nd Airborne Division invaded Grenada, a member of the British Commonwealth. The announced mission of the American suprise attack, in which troops from a number of Caribbean nations took part, was to ensure the safety of some 1,000 Americans, whose presence on Grenada (most were medical students) was considered endangered by the new marxist military government that had seized power from and murdered Prime Minister Maurice Bishop (1944-83) six days earlier. The Organization of Eastern Caribbean States and Grenada&#39;s Governor-General Sir Paul Scoon (1935-) had requested US help to combat the growing influence of Cuba and other communist countries on the island. The small Grenadian army, assisted by Cuban soldiers and workers who were constructing a large airport at Point Salines, put up fierce resistance for several days, but were eventually overwhelmed by the invasion force, which had grown from about 1,200 to over 7,000. Numerous rebles fled to the interior jungles and kept fighting; within a month the leaders of the military government were arrested, and Cubans, Russians, North Koreans, Libyans, East Germans, Bulgarians and suspected Grenadian communists had been rounded up and put in a detention camp. By mid-December 1983, all US combat forces had left Grenada, and Scoon had appointed a nine-member advisory council to govern until elections could be held.

ComradeRobertRiley
7th November 2003, 10:10
Thanks Loknar, appreciate it

Desert Fox
8th November 2003, 15:57
Loknar, is probally one of the few cappies on the board that does the trouble to back up his statements ;) Therefore you have my respect ...

ComradeRobertRiley
8th November 2003, 21:00
Thats a right shit about Grenada though

Jesus Christ
8th November 2003, 21:24
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2003, 03:19 PM
I am sure if the USSR had a base there you&#39;d say "well it&#39;s in Russia’s strategic interests".


Anyway, I am man enough to admit my country is wrong here. The base shouldn&#39;t have been built there in the first place. However some of you guys typically place a double standard on everything. USSR attacked Finland, I am sure no big deal there right? But DAMN the US for attacking Grenada.
thats total bullshit
if someone is wrong, then they are wrong
the USSR had no right nor reason to invade Finland
and if they had endangered an already sparse group of people, then they would have been wrong in that aspect also

bluerev002
9th November 2003, 00:57
The US must be red in the face by now. They must have not expected anyone to rise up in such a small place. Shows that people are getting sick of it all. I love it, shows you dont need a huge mass to defy that fat ass Uncle Sam.

ComradeRobertRiley
9th November 2003, 09:11
Well said blue.

If anyone knows anything else on this subject let me know please, id love to hear how they are getting on.


Also I think the inuits future is really in Denmarks hands coz they own Greenland

Soviet power supreme
9th November 2003, 13:23
Russia 1939 1940 4000000 172000000 50000


What a hell?

50000 dead yeah right.

Bullshit.

Desert Fox
9th November 2003, 13:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2003, 01:57 AM
The US must be red in the face by now. They must have not expected anyone to rise up in such a small place. Shows that people are getting sick of it all. I love it, shows you dont need a huge mass to defy that fat ass Uncle Sam.
Nicely said, and nice avatar btw. Inuyusha is great anime ;) But america only cares about it since it is bad for their image. But you are right, nobody wants to take the bullshit of america anymore. And america can&#39;t afford to silence them all since than it would only result in WWIII <_<

Loknar
9th November 2003, 17:17
Originally posted by Soviet power [email protected] 9 2003, 02:23 PM

Russia 1939 1940 4000000 172000000 50000


What a hell?

50000 dead yeah right.

Bullshit.
why is that hard to believe?

Anarchist Freedom
9th November 2003, 17:28
who is the Us pissing off you may ask?


me&#33;

:che:

Soviet power supreme
9th November 2003, 17:41
why is that hard to believe?

Why? Because it is too small amount.

I looked a Russian document about that war and it reported at least 400000 casualties.

Desert Fox
9th November 2003, 17:53
Originally posted by Socialist [email protected] 9 2003, 06:28 PM


me&#33;

:che:
Join the family comrade ;)

Loknar
9th November 2003, 19:27
Originally posted by Soviet power [email protected] 9 2003, 06:41 PM

why is that hard to believe?

Why? Because it is too small amount.

I looked a Russian document about that war and it reported at least 400000 casualties.
Oh I see what you mean. However a casualty is not a death necessarily. 400,000 casualties probably means 350,000 wounded, 50,000 dead and missing.

ComradeRobertRiley
10th November 2003, 20:09
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2003, 12:11 PM
Well said blue.

If anyone knows anything else on this subject let me know please, id love to hear how they are getting on.


Also I think the inuits future is really in Denmarks hands coz they own Greenland
Back to the Inuits people&#33;

:D


Any new info?

Soviet power supreme
11th November 2003, 17:19
Oh I see what you mean. However a casualty is not a death necessarily. 400,000 casualties probably means 350,000 wounded, 50,000 dead and missing.

Nope.

Dhul Fiqar
11th November 2003, 17:33
I am sure there were never any inaccurate Soviet documents - nor did anyone ever hide the truth...

Glasnost, anyone? =D

--- G.

ComradeRobertRiley
12th November 2003, 18:04
huh?

Desert Fox
13th November 2003, 17:23
Originally posted by Dhul [email protected] 11 2003, 07:33 PM
I am sure there were never any inaccurate Soviet documents - nor did anyone ever hide the truth...

Glasnost, anyone? =D

--- G.
Oh I do like hyporcrits that are being sarcastic :D