The Political Compass

[Franz Fanonipants]

Why is this thing used here?

To my knowledge, the political compass is actually a libertarian recruiting tool and is a pretty bad measure of someone's relative position on any actual Leftist spectrum.

[ВАЛТЕР]

The Political compass is a crap way of measuring what peoples political views are. I would rather state my views than to rely on a test. That, as you said is a Libertarian device.

They put "Communism" on the authoritative side of the scale, that should speak for itself as to how seriously that test needs to be taken.

[NewLeft]

The Political compass is a crap way of measuring what peoples political views are. I would rather state my views than to rely on a test. That, as you said is a Libertarian device.

They put "Communism" on the authoritative side of the scale, that should speak for itself as to how seriously that test needs to be taken.

No, "communism" is on the left side of the compass..

[ВАЛТЕР]

No, "communism" is on the left side of the compass..


Yeah, but it is on the top left. Implying authoritarianism. Or did I look at a wrong compass? and now I feel like an idiot...:blushing:

[Franz Fanonipants]

I'm p. sure different philosophies track to different ends of the chart depending on who is doing the deployment of the chart.

[ZeroNowhere]

To be fair, I think that it usually is criticized a fair bit when people ask about it. It is quite useless for anyone outside capitalist politics, though, since there's no real continuum between the 'left' there and us.

[GPDP]

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Nolan Chart aka The World's Smallest Political Quiz or some shit like that. That one actually is unashamed lolbertarian propaganda.

The Political Compass doesn't explicitly favor any ideology. However, I have noticed it does tend to lump people either to the lower left, or the upper right. I've seen very, very few people get results on the top left and the bottom right. And that's not even getting into its troublesome characterization of communism as being represented by the upper left, since EVERYONE I've ever seen take the test here scores on the far lower left, including hardcore MLs and their ilk.

Also, what ZeroNowhere said. It's almost always criticized when it gets brought up here (not least of all by yours truly), as it is pretty much only useful in terms of liberal capitalist ideology, despite its pretenses of encompassing communism and anarchism.

[Franz Fanonipants]

Question answered.

[Black_Rose]

Does anyone have a similar test that can distinguish between different leftists, especially the revolutionary left?

[Franz Fanonipants]

Does anyone have a similar test that can distinguish between different leftists, especially the revolutionary left?

Revleft

[DarkPast]

Does anyone have a similar test that can distinguish between different leftists, especially the revolutionary left?

http://c4ss.org/quiz

It measures your political opinions along the following lines:

1. Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist
2. Anarchist / Statist
3. Anti-Militarist / Militarist
4. Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative
5. Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian

[Commissar Rykov]

It seems to be popular all over the net and I have never understood it as it is beyond anything useful. It just puts you on some slapped together chart and you have to use divining rods or something to get further information.

[Catmatic Leftist]

I always get max Left and max Libertarian on these kinds of political tests.

The fact that people with irreconcilable political differences such as M-L's and Anarchists can have similar, if not identical, scores demonstrates the sheer lack of explanatory power of the Political Compass test.

[Black_Rose]

It measures your political opinions along the following lines:

1. Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist
2. Anarchist / Statist
3. Anti-Militarist / Militarist
4. Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative
5. Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian

Thanks

For what's its worth:



71% Economic Leftist(Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
3% Statist(Anarchist / Statist)
68% Anti-Militarist(Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
44% Socio-Cultural Liberal(Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
3% Civil Libertarian(Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)


I always considered myself more social conservative than most secular, revolutionary leftists, but I am most certainly not as socially conservative than the American Right, nor do I think the state should restrict access to abortion.

I am somewhat disappointed that I am not more economically left, although I don't know how this test was standardized. Was it standardized on the general population?

I took the test a second time to maximize my economic leftism, although I did it quickly, and added "strongly agree" or "strong disagree" to some of the questions I thought were "loaded" with the economic factor, and I got a 90% economically left.

[ZeroNowhere]

http://c4ss.org/quiz

It measures your political opinions along the following lines:

1. Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist
2. Anarchist / Statist
3. Anti-Militarist / Militarist
4. Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative
5. Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian
I think that any quiz with the dimension 'anarchist/statist' undermines its own authority a bit.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Meh, I got this on the c4ss test.


100% Economic Leftist
100% Anarchist
71% Anti-Militarist
90% Socio-Cultural Liberal
60% Civil Libertarian

I still think relying on a test to place you in a category is stupid. I think nobody can explain their beliefs effectively through a test.

[Nox]

The Political Compass really doesn't work for Communists, all Communists theoretically should score -10,-10 regardless of tendency.

[DarkPast]

I don't think one should take online quizzes (of any sort) seriously. I consider them a fun diversion, nothing more.

Just for the record, my results:
88% Economic Leftist
44% Anarchist
71% Anti-Militarist
67% Socio-Cultural Liberal
53% Civil Libertarian

On political compass I got something like -9 economic left, -6.5 social liberal

[The Stalinator]

http://c4ss.org/quiz

It measures your political opinions along the following lines:

1. Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist
2. Anarchist / Statist
3. Anti-Militarist / Militarist
4. Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative
5. Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian

92% Economic Leftist
59% Anarchist
100% Anti-Militarist
90% Socio-Cultural Liberal
73% Civil Libertarian

I am the biggest hippie ever.

[Franz Fanonipants]

That test is ultra-problematic, but I am

56% Economic Leftist/Economic Rightist
0% Statist/Anarchist
54% Anti-Miltarist/Militarist
35% Social Liberal/Social Conservative
33% Civil Libertarian/Civil Authoritarian

[∞]

http://i.imgur.com/QcbHO.png

[RedAnarchist]

I got -

81% Economic Leftist
82% Anarchist
100% Anti-Militarist
92% Socio-Cultural Liberal
53% Civil Libertarian

[thefinalmarch]

They put "Communism" on the authoritative side of the scale, that should speak for itself as to how seriously that test needs to be taken.
Broadly speaking, communism is the most authoritarian ideology I can think of; it advocates for an entire class to exert its authority over, and expropriate, all the other classes.

Of course, this is not how the political compass understands authoritarianism.

[Black_Rose]

I took the test again, but I put in answers that were opposite of my political attitudes:



68% Economic Rightist(Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
26% Anarchist(Anarchist / Statist)
89% Militarist(Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
77% Socio-Cultural Conservative(Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
33% Civil Authoritarian


Are there actual people who would score > 68% as an economic rightist and > 77% on social conservatism? I still have some respect for free market libertarians (who are actual anarchists and not socially conservative) though.

My actual results on the first try:



71% Economic Leftist(Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
3% Statist(Anarchist / Statist)
68% Anti-Militarist(Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
44% Socio-Cultural Liberal(Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
3% Civil Libertarian(Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)

[Comrade_Stalin]

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Nolan Chart aka The World's Smallest Political Quiz or some shit like that. That one actually is unashamed lolbertarian propaganda.

The Political Compass doesn't explicitly favor any ideology. However, I have noticed it does tend to lump people either to the lower left, or the upper right. I've seen very, very few people get results on the top left and the bottom right. And that's not even getting into its troublesome characterization of communism as being represented by the upper left, since EVERYONE I've ever seen take the test here scores on the far lower left, including hardcore MLs and their ilk.

Also, what ZeroNowhere said. It's almost always criticized when it gets brought up here (not least of all by yours truly), as it is pretty much only useful in terms of liberal capitalist ideology, despite its pretenses of encompassing communism and anarchism.

I most know what is a "ilk"?

[Sam Varriano]

I still have some respect for free market libertarians (who are actual anarchists and not socially conservative) though.


Actual anarchists

Free market libertarians

pick one.

[Void]

where s that test ?

[pax et aequalitas]

72% Economic Leftist (Economic Leftist / Economic Rightist)
74% Anarchist (Anarchist / Statist)
75% Anti-Militarist (Anti-Militarist / Militarist)
77% Socio-Cultural Liberal (Socio-Cultural Liberal / Socio-Cultural Conservative)
63% Civil Libertarian (Civil Libertarian / Civil Authoritarian)

[Black_Rose]

Actual anarchists

Free market libertarians

pick one.

I was being too lazy. I meant to say that some ideological consistent libertarians do not want the state to legislate morality and are actually opposed to imperialist war. Justin Raimando seems to be one example and I respect him.

[Azraella]

My economic compass is economically -9.26 and socially -9.75