Herman Cain is batshit Insane

[RGacky3]

His 999 plan is extremely regressive, HAMMERS the poor, will create wealth inequality in the United States that we have never seen in our history, and crash the economy and drive it into the ground.

But don't worry he's got a solution. (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/21/349944/herman-cains-opportunity-zones/) He literally wants to turn the United States into a third world country, its already heading there. I don't have words for how insane and frightening this guy is.

And he's got an answer to stop mass forclosures,

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The banks just wanna help people .... and the government is stopping them, and why? Because the government does'nt let them, this guy does'nt understand ANYTHING about the financial system. But they arn't helping people because there MIGHT be regulations in the future ...

Oh and the problem is that the banks should have certain cash requirements, :laugh:, so making bets on a 100/1 margain is fine, what could possibally go wrong .... Except what happened juts a couple years ago.

Also I love his abortion answer,

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He's thinks all abortion should be illigal, but he thinks its up to the family to choose.

Heres Herman Cain contradicting himself on the Mosques.

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This guy is dangerously stupid.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Yeah, this guy is dangerous as hell...

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He's a fucking tool :laugh:

[RGacky3]

There is nothing more dangerous than an idiot in power.

[ВАЛТЕР]

What the fuck?! Where in Europe is Sharia law in effect?

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Also,

I think it is safe to say that whoever is elected, there will be more war, poverty, and social problems. That is the only thing I see in for the near future of this world. At least until the masses wake themselves up and take matters into their own hands.

[RGacky3]

Chomsky said about Bush, that the presidency has been reduced to a ceremonial role, and the real power is the corporate interests, in Cains world, that means the Koch brothers, but having someone with this level of stupidity in office would be a disaster beyond what we have now.

[Nox]

There is nothing more dangerous than an idiot in power.

:georgebush:

[ВАЛТЕР]

What do you guys think? Who has the highest chance of winning the election if t were held tomorrow?

[Bardo]

He switched 9-9-9 to 9-0-9 which eliminates income tax, he claims it's to help the poor. When in reality the national sales tax coupled with the massive tax breaks for the wealthy are whats going to devastate the working class, not the 9% income tax.

[tradeunionsupporter]

I agree with the op about Herman Cain.

[Tablo]

I half-way wish Herman Cain had a chance at winning. It would be hilarious seeing him interact with foreign leaders.

[Drosophila]

He is a piece of shit, much like the other people in the Republican race.

Edit: Did I say "people?" that's giving them too much credit

[Metacomet]

What do you guys think? Who has the highest chance of winning the election if t were held tomorrow?


Obama followed by Romney

[ВАЛТЕР]

Obama followed by Romney

Think so? You think Obama can take a second term? I thought people were generally disapproving of him.

[Revolution starts with U]

Obama retains high enough support to beat out the cast of characters known as the "Republican Presidential Candidates." Republicans are going to TR themselves right out of the white house.

(R's actually have far less public support than D's, even tho the public is realy upset with all of them)

[ComradeMan]

Why doesn't that "Rent is too damn high" guy put himself forward? I'd vote for him.... :lol:

[B5C]

Why doesn't that "Rent is too damn high" guy put himself forward? I'd vote for him.... :lol:

He is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)_presidential_cand idates,_2012
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/12/now-ive-heard-it-all-from-jimmy-mcmillan-updated

[Nox]

Ron paul 2012 woooooo!!!!!

Constitution!!!!!1111111111111

[tfb]

I half-way wish Herman Cain had a chance at winning. It would be hilarious seeing him interact with foreign leaders.

*Herman Cain flies through a restaurant on one rollerskate, accidentally drops the cake he was holding on Ban Ki-Moon's head*

"HERMAAAAAAAAN!!!"

[NoOneIsIllegal]

As someone who has ate too much Godfather's pizza in his lifetime*, I can say fuck off Herman Cain. Papa John 4 prez.


* I live in Omaha, so you do the math. There's a location every fucking mile even though nobody likes it...

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Papa John 4 prez. Enact Universal Pizza Delivery now! The people demand Spicy Italian!

[MustCrushCapitalism]

When's the next flight to Venezuela?

[Skooma Addict]

according to wiki...


Cain grew up in Georgia[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain#cite_note-Green-19) and graduated from Morehouse College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morehouse_College) in 1967 with a Bachelor of Science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Science) degree in mathematics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics).
Accepted for graduate studies at Purdue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purdue_University), Cain received a Masters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Science) in computer science (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science) there in 1971,[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain#cite_note-20) while he also worked full-time in ballistics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistics) for the U.S. Department of the Navy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Navy).

If true then he must be intelligent.

[ВАЛТЕР]

All these politicians are intelligent, however they have to justify doing these things which obviously harm the working class. There is no way to sound intelligent defending some of these positions.

Also, as far as US foreign policy is concerned, it is nothing short of aggressive imperialist expansion oppressing people, murdering civilians, and destroying the infrastructure of once sovereign nations.

All the degrees in the world can't make anything said in defense of this sound reasonable.

[Che a chara]

according to wiki...



If true then he must be intelligent.

There's a fine line between genius and insanity and for the Herm it's an open and shut case -- He's a Tea Party advocate for frig sake.

[Judicator]

Asking the bottom 50% to pay a federal income tax rate over 0% is now considered "regressive"?

[Revolution starts with U]

No. It always has been considered regressive.

[Bronco]

The guy's a complete joke, even by Republican standards, it worries the hell out of me that he's currently the most popular candidate when his policies are completely incoherent and riddled with holes, I'm hoping it's just because he's currently something of a novelty. The guy even quoted the fucking Pokemon Movie in his closing statement one time and attributed the quote to "a poet"

Although that said, this is pretty awesome:

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[Revolution starts with U]

Is there something terribly ironic about a right winger parodying "Imagine" by John Lennon? :laugh:

(On a related note; John Lennon sitting in his fucking high rise penthouse apartment planning the next trip on his yacht can fuck off telling me to "imagine no possessions." Clean up your own backyard you fucking douchenozzle :cursing:)

[RGacky3]

Asking the bottom 50% to pay a federal income tax rate over 0% is now considered "regressive"?


No, the tax plan as a whole is ACTUALLY progressive, i.e. the poor end up paying a larger portion of their wealth.


If true then he must be intelligent.

If he really is intelligent someone should tell his mouth.

[Drosophila]

Going to college a lot may make one "smart" or "intelligent" but it doesn't make one wise.

[eric922]

I don't know why he is being taken seriously. He is clearly unqualified. Hell, he said that if a anti-abortion amendment came to his desk he would sign it. There's just one problem, presidents don't sign constitutional amendments. He has no clue what he is doing and the fact that he is being take seriously, shows the depth of our current crisis.

[Skooma Addict]

I'm sure if he was not black he never would have gotten this far. Whether or not people want to admit this is another story.

[Morgenstern]

I'm sure if he was not black he never would have gotten this far. Whether or not people want to admit this is another story.

Being black is a plus in the Republican Party now? Just want to make sure I am understanding what you're saying.





On a more funny note, I'm sure the last seconds of this campaign ad is what will continue his success.
http://youtu.be/qhm-22Q0PuM

On a less funny note, he is a CEO wanting to be President. If it surprises anyone that his laws would profit other Herman Cains out there then they need to think harder on these issues.

[Sugarnotch]

I'm sure if he was not black he never would have gotten this far. Whether or not people want to admit this is another story.

Yeah, let's all call his authenticity into question due to the color of his skin.

C'mon. I hate Cain, but really?

[Pretty Flaco]

I saw a short fox news segment a few days ago and they completely grilled hermain cain. They went out of their way to make him look AWFUL. The republicans are all split. Obama will be the winner next election.

[Morgenstern]

I saw a short fox news segment a few days ago and they completely grilled hermain cain. They went out of their way to make him look AWFUL. The republicans are all split. Obama will be the winner next election.

This isn't why though. In the primaries, in order to win, the GOP candidate must appeal to the base. However, when it comes time for the general election, all of the independent voters will swing to Obama if the GOP candidate appealed too much to the base. The base of the GOP are the crazy Christian "Obama is a Muslim" people. Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann appeal to the base. Romney appeals to the independents. Cain is up in the air, but he's the flavor of the week.

The GOP can't win the Presidential election in 2012. The best candidate won't be able to survive the primaries.

[Sugarnotch]

If there is one thing that'll help the neocons, it's that their base is much more likely to get off their ass and vote. However I think Obama will be able to scrounge up enough moolah from the financial sector's donations to throw together another effective campaign.

[RGacky3]

I'm sure if he was not black he never would have gotten this far. Whether or not people want to admit this is another story.


Yeah, any time a black person makes it somewhere in power it MUST be because he's black, because naturally blacks can't run shit right? The way things are supposed to be are the way things were when it was only white people doing stuff.

Also whether or not people weant to admit this??? It has nothing to do with admiting it, its a stupid and racist proposition.


I saw a short fox news segment a few days ago and they completely grilled hermain cain. They went out of their way to make him look AWFUL. The republicans are all split. Obama will be the winner next election.

I think Romney has a chance at beating Obama. Just follow the money, the most campain spending candidate wins 93% of the time.


The base of the GOP are the crazy Christian "Obama is a Muslim" people. Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann appeal to the base. Romney appeals to the independents. Cain is up in the air, but he's the flavor of the week.


Bachmann appeals to the base, Rich Perry and Cain were juts flavors of the week, Romney appeals to the rulling class.

[Skooma Addict]

Yeah, let's all call his authenticity into question due to the color of his skin.

C'mon. I hate Cain, but really?

I call his authenticity into question, but not because he is black. I don't find any politicians authentic really.


Yeah, any time a black person makes it somewhere in power it MUST be because he's black, because naturally blacks can't run shit right? The way things are supposed to be are the way things were when it was only white people doing stuff.

Also whether or not people weant to admit this??? It has nothing to do with admiting it, its a stupid and racist proposition.

Yes, the proposition you just stated above was quite racist. But we are talking about my proposition, which is completely different and not racist.

The republicans most likely just wanted a black candidate so they didn't appear to be racist or a party against minorities. These are politicians we are talking about here.

[Franz Fanonipants]

i'm voting for that fool multiple times

[USMBRefugee]

Obama.

Oh wait. You mean the nomination for R?

Romney.

And even at that, not good. They really have no one. Anybody who actually could be elected doesn't want to risk all that time and money running against the incumbent, so they're waiting for 2016.

[USMBRefugee]

This isn't why though. In the primaries, in order to win, the GOP candidate must appeal to the base. However, when it comes time for the general election, all of the independent voters will swing to Obama if the GOP candidate appealed too much to the base. The base of the GOP are the crazy Christian "Obama is a Muslim" people. Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann appeal to the base. Romney appeals to the independents. Cain is up in the air, but he's the flavor of the week.

The GOP can't win the Presidential election in 2012. The best candidate won't be able to survive the primaries.

On Monday, Pat Robertson announced that the GOP is too extreme.

Think about that. The leader of the American Extremist Party aka "The Moral Majority" is saying that the Republicans have gone too far.

I can't link my source, but Google Pat Robertson and you'll see.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Herman Cain is the perfect Tea Party candidate. He's a conduit for the Koch brother's money, is highly intelligent, narccistic and vain, and is a black guy who is a master at using coded racism.

The Republicans are far to the right of the American people right now (their debates are hilarious though, they are basically in a contest to see who can be the most bizarre or mean spirited.) There is no enthusiasm for Obama but these guys are scary. The politics of lesser evilism will get Obama in but I predict a record level of voter abstention. "You have to support us because look how batshit insane our opponents are"The formula is wearing thin though.

[USMBRefugee]

What's really wearing thin is their refusal to do anything to help America get better, because doing so would reflect well on the President.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

In a year or two there will be an alternative to the corrupt and stagnant two party system. The streets and Occupy Workplace.

[RGacky3]

I call his authenticity into question, but not because he is black. I don't find any politicians authentic really.


You said ....

"I'm sure if he was not black he never would have gotten this far. Whether or not people want to admit this is another story. "

Which is basically saying you question his authenticity BECAUSE he's black ...


But we are talking about my proposition, which is completely different and not racist.


Again, what you said is right there .... the implication is ... well ... that if he was'nt black he would'nt have gotten this far, how the hell are we supposed to read that if not as racist?


Herman Cain is the perfect Tea Party candidate. He's a conduit for the Koch brother's money, is highly intelligent, narccistic and vain, and is a black guy who is a master at using coded racism.

The Republicans are far to the right of the American people right now (their debates are hilarious though, they are basically in a contest to see who can be the most bizarre or mean spirited.) There is no enthusiasm for Obama but these guys are scary. The politics of lesser evilism will get Obama in but I predict a record level of voter abstention. "You have to support us because look how batshit insane our opponents are"The formula is wearing thin though.

Good analysis other than the intellignet part, the guy can't keep his talking points straight.

[Revolution starts with U]

I'm not racist but most black people are utterly incompetent :cool: (That's the new age racism/sexism 2.0)

I'm not sexist, I just think women are frail little creatures that need taken care of :thumbup1:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

When's the next flight to Venezuela?

Depends...are you currently enlisted in the United States Armed Service? No? Hmmm....this may take a while to process...
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Yeah,I am pretty sure Obama will win the election;the republicans are too fanatical and far too divided.

[Morgenstern]

Bachmann appeals to the base, Rich Perry and Cain were juts flavors of the week, Romney appeals to the rulling class.

I agree that Cain is a flavor of the week. Romney is the only one with any staying power. Perry appealed to the base as well. It's pretty odd seeing how the base is falling and two business candidates are leading the polls. Still, there is something to be said that Romney has remained constant. I believe he will weather the storms and come out as the nominee.



And even at that, not good. They really have no one. Anybody who actually could be elected doesn't want to risk all that time and money running against the incumbent, so they're waiting for 2016.

Besides Chris Christie I can't think of any other possible candidate that made it clear they won't run this cycle that also has national fame.


On Monday, Pat Robertson announced that the GOP is too extreme.

Think about that. The leader of the American Extremist Party aka "The Moral Majority" is saying that the Republicans have gone too far.

I can't link my source, but Google Pat Robertson and you'll see.

I wouldn't say he's the sole leader of the crazy wing. Glenn Beck is still out there. Rush Limbaugh is still out there. Yes, the GOP has become too extreme. In the mornings my TV is tuned to the MSNBC show "Morning Joe" while I get ready for my day. Joe Scarborough is an old fashioned, 90s Conservative (among the other liberal hosts of the show) who comments constantly on the state of the GOP. It's a mess right now. Like someone threw them in a blender (Tea Party) then started throwing around the mush created.

[USMBRefugee]

No. Moral Majority. Actual minister. Not tv/radio personalities.

[Skooma Addict]

"I'm sure if he was not black he never would have gotten this far. Whether or not people want to admit this is another story. "

Which is basically saying you question his authenticity BECAUSE he's black ...

Maybe we are using the word authenticity differently. I question his authenticity in the sense that I question his truthfulness and how genuine he is. But that has nothing to do with him being black, and there is no way anyone could have derived that from my previous statement.


Again, what you said is right there .... the implication is ... well ... that if he was'nt black he would'nt have gotten this far, how the hell are we supposed to read that if not as racist?

Your so called "implications" do not logically follow from what I said at all. I was just saying the republicans needed a black candidate and Herman Cain fit the bill. If he was not black he would have just been one of those obscure white guys besides Romney or Perry.

[Skooma Addict]

I'm not racist but most black people are utterly incompetent :cool: (That's the new age racism/sexism 2.0)

I'm not sexist, I just think women are frail little creatures that need taken care of :thumbup1:

Any mention of race or sex that does not involve the persecution of women/minorities is bigoted.

[Morgenstern]

No. Moral Majority. Actual minister. Not tv/radio personalities.

Pat is a minister and tv personality. However, to say the words of one man is representative of a whole wing of a party is sort of jumping the gun. If Dennis Kucinich said the workers should own the means of production does that mean the Democratic Socialist wing of the Democrats are now on our side?

[RGacky3]

But that has nothing to do with him being black, and there is no way anyone could have derived that from my previous statement.


In the sense that his president candedancy was not due to his credentials but instead his being black.


I was just saying the republicans needed a black candidate and Herman Cain fit the bill. If he was not black he would have just been one of those obscure white guys besides Romney or Perry.

They did'nt need a black guy, they needed a Koch Brothers tool, he's the Koch brothers candidate.

[Morgenstern]

In the sense that his president candedancy was not due to his credentials but instead his being black.



They did'nt need a black guy, they needed a Koch Brothers tool, he's the Koch brothers candidate.

He's more than a tool, he's their chosen one. all other candidates have political experience. The biggest title Cain has ever gotten is CEO. This is more like a scheming uncle influencing a boy king (if Cain wins.). Interesting enough, a third of Tea Partiers now support him.

[tradeunionsupporter]

I don't agree with anything Herman Cain says.

[Robert]

He's more than a tool, he's their chosen one. all other candidates have political experience. The biggest title Cain has ever gotten is CEO. This is more like a scheming uncle influencing a boy king (if Cain wins.). Interesting enough, a third of Tea Partiers now support him.

Their ... who is they? The evil corporatists that run CitiBank from Boston skyscrapers or the Illuminati?

Chosen One ... Last year they were all racists. Now they support a black guy? And they like Cain better than Romney?

(if Cain wins.) It's possible, yeah. I got 10 bucks says he doesn't win. But if he does, he won't be letting anybody tell him what to do. The dude nearly died from cancer a few years back.

Interesting enough, a third of Tea Partiers now support him. - So now the Tea Party isn't racist either?

I wish you guys would offer a little restraint every now and then. These posts are really discouraging to read.

[Bud Struggle]

Interesting enough, a third of Tea Partiers now support him. - So now the Tea Party isn't racist either? Yea, I remember WAY BACK when the Tea Party was a racist organization. They sure have come a long way toward promoting racial equality.

[RGacky3]

By picking a guy that says most black people are brainwashed.

[Bud Struggle]

By picking a guy that says most black people are brainwashed. I agree with you there. There is nothing more annoying than a Black guy who doesn't think the way he's supposed to think. :)

[Rafiq]

Chomsky said about Bush, that the presidency has been reduced to a ceremonial role, and the real power is the corporate interests, in Cains world, that means the Koch brothers, but having someone with this level of stupidity in office would be a disaster beyond what we have now.

Presidency was never 'reduced' to a ceremonial role. It has always been for show.

I am so sick of this "Corporatphobia" bullshit or whatever you like to call it. The dominance of the corporations is just a different way for the Bourgeoisie to organize themselves to stay in class power and repress the interests of the proletariat. It is not as if The United States was some 'Free" Republic in which the Bourgeoisie and the Government were two separate interests and the Bourgeoisie took over the Government.

And I wouldn't call it a "ceremonial role" either, because this is at best intellectual narrow-mindedness.

It is a position in which the Bourgeoisie decides who they want to represent them, and, that is what the role of the president has always been. Whether the power of this representative has shrunken or grown is irrelevant.

[Rafiq]

according to wiki...



If true then he must be intelligent.

He is. The Bourgeois snakes are all intelligent people.

He knowingly is aware that the shit he spews out is bullshit.

[Rafiq]

Interesting enough, a third of Tea Partiers now support him. - So now the Tea Party isn't racist either?



During the Civil war I can bet there were some Black folks who fought for the South, and carried out their interests in doing so by fighting their enemy.

Does that mean that the Confederacy wasn't Racist? Or does it mean they saw the Africans as tools to fulfill their interests?

[Robert]

During the Civil war I can bet there were some Black folks who fought for the South, and carried out their interests in doing so by fighting their enemy.

Yes, and you'd win the bet (http://blackconfederatesoldiers.com/), but your analogy is upside down.

The point made hereinabove is that the Tea Party supports Cain, not the other way around (though Cain is surely sympathetic to its fundamental goal of reducing government spending. That's what the Tea Party movement is at its core, though it surely harbors racists just as OWS harbors a lump (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat) or two.)

For your analogy to work, you'd have to show that the confederacy supported blacks.

Got any evidence of that?

[USMBRefugee]

Pat is a minister and tv personality. However, to say the words of one man is representative of a whole wing of a party is sort of jumping the gun. If Dennis Kucinich said the workers should own the means of production does that mean the Democratic Socialist wing of the Democrats are now on our side?

I didn't say he did. I must not be using enough words. I'm saying that when a radical fundamentalist Christian says "you've gone too far right" - there's your sign.

[Rafiq]

Yes, and you'd win the bet (http://blackconfederatesoldiers.com/), but your analogy is upside down.

The point made hereinabove is that the Tea Party supports Cain, not the other way around (though Cain is surely sympathetic to its fundamental goal of reducing government spending. That's what the Tea Party movement is at its core, though it surely harbors racists just as OWS harbors a lump (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat) or two.)

For your analogy to work, you'd have to show that the confederacy supported blacks.

Got any evidence of that?

The African slaves fought for the confederacy and the confederacy supported them in doing so. You fail.

[Robert]

the confederacy supported them

The confederacy wanted to keep them subjugated.

The Tea Party wants
Cain to be the President of the United States.

See the difference now?

I win.

[Rafiq]

The confederacy wanted to keep them subjugated.

The Tea Party wants
Cain to be the President of the United States.

See the difference now?

I win.

I see no difference. You fail.

[Robert]

There are a few differences between a black person in 1863 and the president of the USA today:

THE PRESIDENT:

The President has the power to receive other foreign heads of state, such as the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_United_Kingdom_of_Great_Britain_and_N orthern_Ireland) or the Bundespräsident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundespr%C3%A4sident) of Germany in official ceremonies.

Within the executive branch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_%28government%29) itself, the president has broad powers to manage national affairs and the workings of the federal government. The president can issue rules, regulations, and instructions called executive orders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order_%28United_States%29), which have the binding force of law upon federal agencies but do not require congressional approval.

As Commander in Chief (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_in_Chief) of the armed forces of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces), the president may also call into federal service the state units of the National Guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Guard). In times of war or national emergency, the Congress may grant the president even broader powers to manage the national economy and protect the security of the United States.

The President of the United States has several different appointment powers.
Before taking office, the President-elect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President-elect_of_the_United_States) must appoint more than 6,000 new federal positions. The appointments range from top officials at U.S. government agencies, to the White House Staff, and members of the United States diplomatic corps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_corps). Many, but not all, of these positions are appointed by the President with the advice and consent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advice_and_consent) of the United States Senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate).
The President also has the power to nominate federal judges, including members of the United States Courts of Appeals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Courts_of_Appeals) and the United States Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Supreme_Court).

Article II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution) of the United States Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution) gives the President the power of clemency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemency). The two most commonly used clemency powers are those of pardon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon) and commutation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutation_of_sentence).

Under the Constitution, the president is the federal official that is primarily responsible for the relations of the United States with foreign nations. The president appoints ambassadors, ministers, and consuls—subject to confirmation by the Senate—and receives foreign ambassadors and other public officials.

Over the years, Presidents have claimed to have emergency powers in times of crisis. These Inherent Powers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inherent_Powers) have been used both at home and overseas. The most common use of emergency powers is to declare a state of emergency which allows the Federal Emergency Management Agency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Emergency_Management_Agency) (FEMA) to bypass normal administrative and jurisdictional rules.

Executive privilege (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege) gives the President the ability to withhold information from the public, Congress, and the courts in matters of national security.

versus


THE BLACK UNDER THE CONFEDERACY:

Had zero powers and zero rights.


Other than that, they had were more or less the same.

[Rafiq]

The president is merely the representative of the interests of the bourgeoisie. Of course an uncle tom would be supported by the Tea Party, just as a pro-slavery or pro-segregation black person (MOHOMMAD ALI) would be supported by the Ku Klux Klan.

the KKK supported Mohammad Ali in the heavy weight championship. Is the KKK not racist? Or was MA merely carrying out their demands and interests?

[Robert]

Black during civil war ≠ President of the United States.

It'll come to ya. :thumbup1:

[Klaatu]

His 999 plan is extremely regressive, HAMMERS the poor, will create wealth inequality in the United States that we have never seen in our history, and crash the economy and drive it into the ground.

But don't worry he's got a solution. (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/21/349944/herman-cains-opportunity-zones/) He literally wants to turn the United States into a third world country, its already heading there. I don't have words for how insane and frightening this guy is.


The richer the rich get, while the poorer the working class gets, the weaker the economy (as a whole) becomes. Cain's plan would severely weaken the already-feeble US economy, by raising taxes on the poor and working class. As an example, consider some of the third-world nations that have a very small wealthy class, while 99.99% of that country's population literally goes to bed hungry. (is this what we want?)

The strongest possible economy (in theory) is where everyone is paid an equal amount. (In the US, this would be about $50,000/year) The reason is that this maximizes aggregate consumption in a demand-based economy. A lot of folks with money to spend strengthens the nation!

But if all of the nation's wealth is concentrated in just a few hands, aggregate consumption is at a minimum - therefore a very weak economy ensues (the rich can only eat so much, they can only heat their homes so hot, etc) Their excess money goes to bidding up prices on everything else (e.g. a $50 million Van Gogh painting) In fact, the rich live in their own bubble of over-priced goods and services: fine restaurants, fine clothes, expensive vacations, private jets, gated communities, etc. Everything beyond necessities are bid upwards, out-of-reach of the masses. The rich live on the workers' wealth (as parasites) and on the workers' hard-earned wealth legacy (as saprophytes)

And we thought slavery had been abolished. Go Figure.

[Skooma Addict]

Most conservatives only look at the issue on purely economic terms. Now I am not saying their economics are right or wrong, that is beside the point. The point is that conservatives mostly miss how their economic policies would affect the fabric of society, which will then indirectly change the countries economy.

For example, they often say that it is OK for the wealth gap to increase as long as the poor are getting richer as well. However, the fact that there is rising inequality could lead to all sorts of other problems.

The problem with leftists on the other hand is that they too often believe that what they wish to be true, was in fact true.

[RGacky3]

Most conservatives only look at the issue on purely economic terms.

Thats bullshit, its almost ALL a moralistic argument, i.e. "DON"T TAKE MY MONEY, its mine I worked for it." the economics comes secondary and is really just buit around that.


However, the fact that there is rising inequality could lead to all sorts of other problems.


One of which is capitalism ceasing to function.


And we thought slavery had been abolished. Go Figure.

it was, but its comming back, in private prisons.

[Bronco]

Thats bullshit, its almost ALL a moralistic argument, i.e. "DON"T TAKE MY MONEY, its mine I worked for it." the economics comes secondary and is really just buit around that.


I dunno, I do think that Conservatives tend to think of themselves as the economically "responsible" ones, with their emphasis on reducing the deficit and controlling inflation and the money supply

[Robert]

Commies evidently think all conservatives are rich.

They aren't.

[Bud Struggle]

Commies evidently think all conservatives are rich.

They aren't.

Closer to: almost none are. On the other hand working people in America are into three things: family, God and Country. Communists represent none of those things--and that's why you haven't been able to tap into the worker's psychie.

[Skooma Addict]

Closer to: almost none are. On the other hand working people in America are into three things: family, God and Country. Communists represent none of those things--and that's why you haven't been able to tap into the worker's psychie.

All of those 3 things are dying in America.

[Bud Struggle]

All of those 3 things are dying in America.

Listen to country radio.

[RGacky3]

I dunno, I do think that Conservatives tend to think of themselves as the economically "responsible" ones, with their emphasis on reducing the deficit and controlling inflation and the money supply

WHich is not economically responsible if you listen to real economists, also they have no interest in reducing the deficit, otherwise they would'nt have gone into a war AND lowered taxes, as far as inflation its the fed that controls that.


Closer to: almost none are. On the other hand working people in America are into three things: family, God and Country. Communists represent none of those things--and that's why you haven't been able to tap into the worker's psychie.

Look at the polls, I personally trust the numbers more than Buds hunch. RIght now Americans are into getting a middle class life back, and thats what leftists can tap into and the right wing desperate tries too, but is now failing.

[Robert]

Listen to country radio. Yes.

Or watch the World Series. They open with the National Anthem and sing "God Bless America" in the 7th inning stretch.

Commies smirk.

Everyone else sings.

[Skooma Addict]

Listen to country radio.

That is not popular with my generation. The trend now is less pride in ones country (people don't care, and they can easily find others in different countries who they can relate to better than many people in their own countries), less of a belief in god, and the family has been on the decline for a while now. One of the reasons being it is too risky nowadays. Another reason being that people do not view it as noble anymore.

[Robert]

Skooma, aren't you a uni student? I think most of you guys are in university or graduated already.

As such, you're only around 40% of the people age 18-24 in the USA. This may skew your view as to the popularity of country music. Especially out in the country.

http://howtoedu.org/college-facts/how-many-people-go-to-college-every-year/

But ... I see too that only about 20% of Americans live in rural areas, where country is bigger, of course. So maybe I'm wr-- wro-- wrrrrr-- damn, I can't get it out.

Must have a sore throat. :mellow:

[Bronco]

WHich is not economically responsible if you listen to real economists, also they have no interest in reducing the deficit, otherwise they would'nt have gone into a war AND lowered taxes, as far as inflation its the fed that controls that.


I'm not arguing whether it is or it isn't, just saying that most Conservatives tend to think of themselves as being fiscally responsible as oppose to the Keynesianism of the Democrats/Liberals. I'm speaking generally here, it might not necessarily apply to the policies of Bush. I just think that it's a bit simplistic to reduce Economic Conservatism down to a "moral" argument about rich people wanting to keep their money

[Che a chara]

The confederacy wanted to keep them subjugated.

The Tea Party wants
Cain to be the President of the United States.

See the difference now?

I win.

The Tea Party wants a nincompoop that wont best serve the interests of proletarian advancement and significantly in this debate, one that wont best serve the interests of the black community to be President -- regardless of the colour of that electee. Facts are facts and blacks and Latinos etc are still shown to be statistically more likely to be marginalised and subjugated in society and Herman's lunatic rhetoric and intended policies show that his election will preserve and intensify this ratio.

[NewLeft]

I like Rich Santorum's 0-0-0 plan better. No taxes on corporations!! Oops, I meant to say 'job creators', this political correctness thing is hard..