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Nicholas Popov
23rd October 2011, 13:47
The king, the president, secretary general of the KP ...
The one-man-rule: it's Democracy or Monarchy?

http://www.modelgovernment.org/images/thumbnails/thumb_democracy_or_monarchy_.jpg

The ‘Russian October’, José Martí, Comandante Che are shrouded by an aura of heroics and romanticism, … but the outdated governance paradigm dooms freedom fighters to failure initially. And the all has returned full circle … Why?


The chronic error of the revolutionaries and freedom fighters: http://www.modelgovernment.org/en/

ComradeMan
23rd October 2011, 14:23
Hey, Привет .... Рад тебя видеть.....glad to see you back..... Как поживаешь?

Palace coups.... indeed..... ;)

Nicholas Popov
23rd October 2011, 15:07
Привет, привет ComradeMan! ... I am also extremely happy to see a kindred spirit! As you can see, I don't surrender! :):):)

Thug Lessons
23rd October 2011, 16:22
Sorry man that's all practically incoherent. Is that actually you? Did you really make this picture of yourself?

http://i.imgur.com/OYy6u.jpg

Nicholas Popov
23rd October 2011, 17:23
I do not Pol Pot to hide my face. It is necessary to see eyes of the person. But you have increased an avatar till the size of an icon in vain.
Unfortunately, the person understands true sense near to gate of Auschwitz only. It's better when earlier.

ComradeMan
23rd October 2011, 17:25
Как ваша идея развивается?


I do not Pol Pot to hide his face.

Don't mention that name.....! LOL!!! It will be homed in on by the pesky Maoists.... :D

ComradeMan
23rd October 2011, 19:35
Nicholas,

You're site is looking good- and interesting too.

I have a few "questions" though.

You talk a lot about government from the top-down, which is interesting however I'd like to ask what the "vision" is for these areas (in no particular order as such):



worker control of means of production
property rights
environmental sustainability
social responsibility
crime and punishment
technological advance

Nicholas Popov
23rd October 2011, 19:43
Old chap ComradeMan,
Idea of Consolidation is moving slower than we would like. Direct work is time-consuming uselessly. I experience capitalism 'delights' on an own back.
Nevertheless I continue to communicate with professors and journalists from the different countries. The new website is almost ready also. It is necessary not to struggle against separate displays of an arbitrariness, but it is necessary to change a very paradigm of the UNCONTROLLED POWER. The advance of new concept will bring more benefit.
It is the shortest way. :star2:

ComradeMan
23rd October 2011, 19:45
Hmmm.... well, what's your own personal view anyway?

But you hit the nail on the head with the word "power". :thumbup1:

Nicholas Popov
23rd October 2011, 20:34
We should talk about multi-polarity decision-making and protectability of each social group. State, private and collective property should coexist as an equal.
It would be dishonest for my part to give preference to any one ideology.
I would remind that a new governance system is self-balancing in interests of the majority.

ComradeMan
24th October 2011, 10:23
State, private and collective property should coexist as an equal.

Do you not see a potential conflict of interests here?


in interests of the majority.

Are majority interests necessarily the best interests?

Nicholas Popov
24th October 2011, 18:06
Howdy ComradeMan,

Only dead men have no conflicts, sorry for black humour. The question is whether how they are solved.
The private sector is necessary as more enterprising and movable. It is pathfinder.
But the basic sector of economy remains behind the state and collective that develop the initiative further. If the private sector begins to dominate, the society's priorities will shift to the left and the self-balancing power will be adequately compelled to react owing to self-preservation. Inactivity will reduce their chance to next period of power, especially for small parties, and the new government will become more leftist.

Each party in power protects interests of its segment of electorate. Together they forms the overwhelming majority of a society.

Pay attention that leadership floats between leaders of 2 largest parties and the final decision is the compromise of several participants (3,4 or 5). This solution isn't ideal but it is necessary to talk about the most complete and optimal solution to the conflicting parties and whole society under current conditions.

Nicholas http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/images/smilies/beer.gif

RGacky3
25th October 2011, 08:53
The private sector is necessary as more enterprising and movable. It is pathfinder.


Bullshit, the private sector generally juts takes innovation from non-profit insitutions or state institutions and uses them for profit.

ComradeMan
25th October 2011, 09:37
Bullshit, the private sector generally juts takes innovation from non-profit insitutions or state institutions and uses them for profit.

I think he means entrepreneurship...

Nicholas Popov
25th October 2011, 09:55
Bullshit, the private sector generally juts takes innovation from non-profit insitutions or state institutions and uses them for profit.I worked at large factory as the designer and well know tragedy of many individual inventors in the absence of funds. E.g. the rain sensor, the plasma engine for rockets, hybrid vehicle etc. The Russians looks to the West in a bum now. It is shameful and sad.

Blackscare
25th October 2011, 10:00
What is going on in this thread? Comrademan, I mean no offence to the OP but could you verify that he actually makes sense in Russian? I mean, is it just a case of incomplete ESL (which, of course, no one here should discriminate against) or is he genuinely incoherent?

RGacky3
25th October 2011, 10:24
I think he means entrepreneurship...

I'm glad you said that http://www.revleft.com/vb/ha-joon-chang-t163190/index.html


I worked at large factory as the designer and well know tragedy of many single inventors in the absence of funds. The rain sensor, the plasma engine for rockets, hybrid vehicle etc. Russian looks in the West bum now.

... Are you talking about under invenstment?

ComradeMan
25th October 2011, 10:31
What is going on in this thread? Comrademan, I mean no offence to the OP but could you verify that he actually makes sense in Russian? I mean, is it just a case of incomplete ESL (which, of course, no one here should discriminate against) or is he genuinely incoherent?

I think the OP directly translates from his native Russian at times, and he himself has asked for help with English before (when he was posting previously). I do manage to follow what he's saying though, even though, albeit with some degree of interpreting involved. Perhaps the OP could write in Russian and then provide his translation underneath. Also if you look at his site, it explains his ideas more clearly.

Nicholas Popov
25th October 2011, 15:25
I think the OP directly translates from his native Russian ... Also if you look at his site, it explains his ideas more clearly. A sense of commonality and shared vision is more important than the language barrier. COMRADE, thanks for your understanding and constructivity. The intelligence defines Human.

Nicholas Popov
25th October 2011, 16:03
I'm glad you said that http://www.revleft.com/vb/ha-joon-chang-t163190/index.html

... Are you talking about under invenstment?

I speak about Russian inventors who hasn't found state support.
Thanks for a reminder about Ha-Joon Chang. My idea is universal and can be used not only in the politician but also in collective factories with a considerable quantity of workers/co-owners.