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CAleftist
19th October 2011, 15:38
The East India Company (also known as the English East India Company,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_East_India_Company#cite_note-0) and, after the Treaty of Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Union), the British East India Company)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_East_India_Company#cite_note-1) was an early English joint-stock company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint-stock_company)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_East_India_Company#cite_note-2) that was formed initially for pursuing trade with the East Indies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indies), but that ended up trading mainly with the Indian subcontinent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent) and China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China). The Company was granted an English Royal Charter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Charter), under the name Governor and Company of Merchants of London Trading into the East Indies, by Elizabeth I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_I_of_England) on 31 December 1600,[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_East_India_Company#cite_note-3) making it the oldest among several similarly formed European East India Companies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company_%28disambiguation%29), the largest of which was the Dutch East India Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_India_Company).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company


The Dutch East India Company (Dutch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_language): Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie, VOC, "United East India Company") was a chartered company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_company) established in 1602, when the States-General of the Netherlands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States-General_of_the_Netherlands) granted it a 21-year monopoly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly) to carry out colonial activities in Asia. It was the second multinational corporation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_corporation) in the world (the British East India Company was founded two years earlier) and the first company to issue stock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_India_Company

And later on, in the Gilded Age....



Standard Oil was a predominant American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) integrated oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum) producing, transporting, refining, and marketing company. Established in 1870 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1870) as a corporation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation) in Ohio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio), it was the largest oil refiner in the world[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_oil#cite_note-5) and operated as a major company trust and was one of the world's first and largest multinational corporations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_corporation) until it was broken up by the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States) in 1911.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_oil


The United States Steel Corporation (NYSE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Stock_Exchange): X (http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/quickquote.html?ticker=x)), more commonly known as U.S. Steel, is an integrated steel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel) producer with major production operations in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States), Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada), and Central Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe). The company is the world's tenth largest steel producer ranked by sales (see list of steel producers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_steel_producers)). It was renamed USX Corporation in 1991 and back to United States Steel Corporation in 2001 when the shareholders of USX spun off its steel-making assets following the acquisition of Marathon Oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_Oil) in 1982. It is still the largest domestically owned integrated steel producer in the United States, although it produces only slightly more steel than it did in 1902.[/URL]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Steel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Steel#cite_note-post-1)



"Small businesses are the backbone of America's economy

-Countless politicians and pundits

Uh huh...

Pray tell, when was capitalism not dominated by large corporations?



[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock"]

RadioRaheem84
19th October 2011, 15:54
Corporatism is just a word that libertarians and liberals like to use so they do not have to smear capitalism.

They're coming from a completely idealistic pov of capitalism, not a materialist perspective.

Sinister Cultural Marxist
19th October 2011, 16:10
Corporatism refers to Mussolini's model of planned Capitalism whereby a strong fascist party tries to control both the unions and private corporations while preserving the essential Capitalist model. Liberal Capitalism today is not "Corporatism" in that respect, in part because the corporations remain in competition with each other politically and economically. In that respect I think "neoliberal" is a correct description of the current American economic model, and it is a program pushed by Democrats as well as Republicans.

Die Rote Fahne
19th October 2011, 16:28
Corporatism can also refer to the fascist belief of class collaboration.

Rooster
19th October 2011, 16:30
Corporatism doesn't refer to corporations. It means class collaboration for the good of the society, more or less, and comes from the latin word corp, meaning body.


Originally posted by Wiki

Corporatism is theoretically based upon the interpretation of a community as an organic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organicism) body.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#cite_note-Clarke.2C_Paul_A._B._2001._Pp._113-2) The term corporatism is based on the Latin root "corp" meaning "body".[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism#cite_note-Clarke.2C_Paul_A._B._2001._Pp._113-2)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism

RadioRaheem84
19th October 2011, 22:06
Liberals and libertarians are always misusing the word.

GPDP
19th October 2011, 22:41
Liberals and libertarians are always misusing the word.

Indeed. I always cringe when I hear someone say it, because I know they're most likely not referring to fascism (well, they probably are, but in the hackneyed way i.e. the government's like, fucking fascist, man). It's just another term they use to blast the status quo without actually criticizing capitalism. Other popular dance-around terms used by liberals include crony capitalism, casino capitalism, unfettered capitalism, etc.

MustCrushCapitalism
19th October 2011, 22:53
Corporatism is just a word that libertarians and liberals like to use so they do not have to smear capitalism.

They're coming from a completely idealistic pov of capitalism, not a materialist perspective.
This.

So many capitalists seem to have this utopian view of capitalism, as some kind of society where anyone can get rich if they work for it, failing to see that this... isn't happening.

RadioRaheem84
19th October 2011, 23:01
Corporatism sounds like a corporate buzz word.

Decolonize The Left
19th October 2011, 23:08
Corporatism doesn't refer to corporations. It means class collaboration for the good of the society, more or less, and comes from the latin word corp, meaning body.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism

This is true, but in common language "corporatism" generally means the corporate act of monopolizing markets for profit at the expense of the general welfare.

And as RR84 aptly noted, this meaning stems from a idealistic point of view (see the Occupy protests) of capitalism and completely ignores the materialist analysis of the economic system.

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