Emigration

[Nox]

If one wanted to emigrate to another country, how would one go about finding a job there? Would it be best to find a job there before or after emigrating?

Speaking of which, are there any easy ways to find jobs in other countries?

[jmlima]

Too open ended question, you need to be far more specific.

[Nox]

Too open ended question, you need to be far more specific.

Well, if someone wanted to emigrate to another country, what would they need to do before they emigrated, and what would they need to do after they emigrated, and how would they get a job?

The country is not English speaking.

[black magick hustla]

there are countries where you can get a work visa for thirty bucks, and there are countries where people spend years living illegally without ever able to move in.

[citizen of industry]

Which country are you talking about and what kind of work do you want to do? It really depends a lot on the country. In Japan, you usually need a student visa or working visa. If you have a bachelor's degree you can get a specialist in humanities visa. You get a company to sponsor your visa. Once you get the visa, it is yours and you can quit the company, change jobs, whatever for the duration of the visa. If you want to renew you need another sponsor.

If you study in a university you can get a student visa. On the student visa you can work part-time. You can also get a cultural studies visa to study things like judo, I'm not sure if you can work on a cultural studies one.

If you get married you get a spousal visa, you can work anywhere you want, provided someone wants to hire you. Once you are here long enough you can apply for permanent residency, then you don't need a visa anymore.

You're basically limited to teaching English at shady, exploitative companies for low pay and little to no benefits, until you learn the language. Then you have more choices on where you want to work and can get exploited for low pay and little to no benefits in other trades.

[NoOneIsIllegal]

Depends on which country, and their laws. Some take almost anyone and fairly fast, and some only want college-graduates and/or it may take a few months/years to get in.

[tir1944]

Where exactly do you want to emigrate to?

[Rooster]

If you're in the EU then you can usually just get a job pretty easily. It depends where, of course, but you don't need a visa for most places. You may have to apply to their version of the home office so that you're able to pay taxes. You would certainly have to be able to speak the language although, again, it depends on the job, but I doubt that many foreign companies would speak English. Some jobs you may be able to get away with with a poor grasp or a rudimentary grasp of the language, such as a job that doesn't require much communication.

[tir1944]

Yep,even though the EU(especially Italy,Spain,E.Europe) is pretty fucked up right now,there's not much jobs available...

[Nox]

The country in question is Georgia.

[tir1944]

Georgia is one of the most fucked up ex-USSR countries.
Only Armenia and some some 'Stans (not all of them) are worse.
I mean,there's like 20% unemployment rate and the country is,well,rather miserable.
Just sayin'.

[Nox]

Georgia is one of the most fucked up ex-USSR countries.
Only Armenia and some some 'Stans (not all of them) are worse.
I mean,there's like 20% unemployment rate and the country is,well,rather miserable.
Just sayin'.

I'd beg to differ. It has one of highest economic growth rates of all the ex-USSR states, and has a huge demand for English-speaking people.

Anyway, money isn't the only reason I'm moving there, my choices don't revolve around money ;)

Why do you think it's miserable?

[tir1944]

I'd beg to differ. It has one of highest economic growth rates of all the ex-USSR states, and has a huge demand for English-speaking people.
Well Nigeria is in the top 10 countries in the world when it comes to ec.growth.;)
Anyway,GDP per capita there is like less than 3k $.Even Albania is better.



Why do you think it's miserable?
Well check out some photo-reports from there...

[Nox]

Well Nigeria is in the top 10 countries in the world when it comes to ec.growth.;)
Anyway,GDP per capita there is like less than 3k $.Even Albania is better.

GDP doesn't reflect the quality of life.

Even GDP-PPP is very inaccurate at doing that.

Like I said, it isn't a move motivated by money.



Well check out some photo-reports from there...

http://www.zorpia.com/forum/35930/328934

[tir1944]

Fair enough.
Have you ever been there?
Do you speak the language?

[Nox]

Nope.

I'm learning it, plan to start 'properly' learning it while I'm at university.

[tir1944]

K.Well,better visit at at least once or twice to get the "feel",right.
I'm sure it will be a nice adventure.:)

[Nox]

Yes, I've always wanted to move to the Caucasus.

I have family there, and it's a beautiful place. Although I've never been to Georgia, I was invited to a second-cousin's (or cousin's, I can't remember) wedding which was in the Russian part of the Caucasus.

[tir1944]

Hope ol' Saakash. won't get any more "ideas" about Abhazia/S.Ossetia.
:D

[farleft]

Teaching English is an excellent route out of English speaking countries, once you gain some experience in a country with next to no standards (like China) it can take you all round the world.

[the last donut of the night]

good luck with the language

[Iron Felix]

You're Georgian? Caucasians are excellent drinking buddies! Georgians are some jolly fellows. But Georgia is complete shit, and you won't get a decent job without knowing Georgian well.

[farleft]

I may have mentioned it before but when teaching English in foreign countries you don't need to be able to speak the local language!

[rundontwalk]

I may have mentioned it before but when teaching English in foreign countries you don't need to be able to speak the local language!
Speaking of which the OP might be interested in this (http://www.tlg.gov.ge/) government program they've got going there. I found out about it when looking up TEFL opportunities for my own sake, and it looks pretty good.

[farleft]

Speaking of which the OP might be interested in this (http://www.tlg.gov.ge/) government program they've got going there. I found out about it when looking up TEFL opportunities for my own sake, and it looks pretty good.

Sounds pretty good, the pay is low as it's a volunteer position but the opportunity seems sound, would make a great experience.