Worst argument ever

[molotovcocktail]

While discussing with a libertarian, he suddenly came with the silliest argument I ever heard. I guess i cornered him, because this argument is just ridiculous.

Look, the most powerful socialist in the world, Dominique Strauss Kahn raped a girl. Do you support that? Do you support rape? Because if you support socialism, you support rape of innocent people. You know what, i don't talk with filthy rapists like you. I am disgusted.

[JFB.anon]

While discussing with a libertarian, he suddenly came with the silliest argument I ever heard. I guess i cornered him, because this argument is just ridiculous.
The IMF is the raper of nations ; ironically, by forcing them to pay large debts and follow libertarian economics. Which have been proven not to work.

[Rooster]

Isn't that bit like saying "Castro likes to eat his beans with brown sauce! Do you support that? Do you support eating beans with brown sauce? Because if you support socialism then you support eating beans with brown sauce! I don't debate with filthy brown sauce drowning bean eaters"?

[Yugo45]

lol sounds like a troll

Then again, it could be because whatever libertarians say makes no sense.

[Sputnik_1]

It's some kind of a really poor syllogism...

[Kornilios Sunshine]

FUCKING COMMIE BASTARD STRAUSS KHAN! hahaha kidding.By far,the most idiotic quote I read.Sounds really like this guy thinks that the TV and Radio say the truth.If strauss khan is a socialist then Obama is 1000% democrat.You should tell him "Well do you support the system,by telling me this bullshit?"

[Judicator]

The IMF is the raper of nations ; ironically, by forcing them to pay large debts and follow libertarian economics. Which have been proven not to work.

The IMF routinely *forgives* debt...hardly a libertarian thing to do.

[ColonelCossack]

Look, the most powerful socialist in the world, Dominique Strauss Kahn raped a girl. Do you support that? Do you support rape? Because if you support socialism, you support rape of innocent people. You know what, i don't talk with filthy rapists like you. I am disgusted.

Lol

Wut?

Yeah, I know it's a one liner. But how else could you respond to that? it's just so... So... SO....

Da Fok?

[ColonelCossack]

Isn't that bit like saying "Castro likes to eat his beans with brown sauce! Do you support that? Do you support eating beans with brown sauce? Because if you support socialism then you support eating beans with brown sauce! I don't debate with filthy brown sauce drowning bean eaters"?

Except that Strauss-Kahn isn't a socialist.

[Rooster]

Except that Strauss-Kahn isn't a socialist.

The argument fails more because it's associating a whole group of people with one person's actions. Which made me laugh a little bit.

[danyboy27]

The IMF routinely *forgives* debt...hardly a libertarian thing to do.

why is forgiving debt not in line with libertarian principles?

after all, in a libertarian world if someone owe me 10 000 dollars and i decide to forgive his debt, it would be in my god given right to forgive this individual debt amirite?

the IMF is doing a good job at promoting libertarian principle, beccause debt forgiveness is often fallowed by the continuation of non-governement interference in the world of buisness in those countries.

[ColonelCossack]

The argument fails more because it's associating a whole group of people with one person's actions. Which made me laugh a little bit.

That's true... but what made me laugh more was the assertion that one of the world's most capitalist capitalists is a socialist. So the argument fails on various levels.

It's an inception fail! :(

[Leftsolidarity]

That is the exact definition of a strawman argument.

[Kosakk]

While discussing with a libertarian, he suddenly came with the silliest argument I ever heard. I guess i cornered him, because this argument is just ridiculous.

Oh Yeah! Worst argument I've heard in a while

[Judicator]

why is forgiving debt not in line with libertarian principles?

after all, in a libertarian world if someone owe me 10 000 dollars and i decide to forgive his debt, it would be in my god given right to forgive this individual debt amirite?

the IMF is doing a good job at promoting libertarian principle, beccause debt forgiveness is often fallowed by the continuation of non-governement interference in the world of buisness in those countries.

Not when the IMF is handing out other peoples' money.

[RGacky3]

Not when the IMF is handing out other peoples' money.

Its a bank ... Thats kind of what they do.

[fra00074]

While discussing with a libertarian, he suddenly came with the silliest argument I ever heard. I guess i cornered him, because this argument is just ridiculous.

Its called Guilt by Association. (I think)

The anti racist use it all the time.

"Ohh whats that? You support people's right to have racist beliefs and express them? You must be a member of the KKK, and a Nazi. You must be in favor of killing non whites. You're a monster!"

[Robert]

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Originally Posted by molotovcocktail http://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2266749#post2266749)
While discussing with a libertarian, he suddenly came with the silliest argument I ever heard. I guess i cornered him, because this argument is just ridiculous.
Oh Yeah! Worst argument I've heard in a while


You're proud of demolishing a bad argument? Good job, man.:thumbup1:

[RGacky3]

Dominique Strauss Kahn is part of the right wing of the socialist party, he's basically the Joe Lieberman of the socialist party.

[Bud Struggle]

Dominique Strauss Kahn is part of the right wing of the socialist party, he's basically the Joe Lieberman of the socialist party.

He's what an average Socialist with money looks like: $50,000 a month apartments, First class plane tickets. Wacking off on the domestic servants.

He's no different than a Capitalist--or maybe he's worse. Capitalists don't pretend to be "for the people."

We are all the same, Gack. I'd love to see you with a million dollar expense account. :D

[Revolution starts with U]

Its called Guilt by Association. (I think)

The anti racist use it all the time.

"Ohh whats that? You support people's right to have racist beliefs and express them? You must be a member of the KKK, and a Nazi. You must be in favor of killing non whites. You're a monster!"

You're not an anti-racist?

Also... who has ever said that? :lol:

[hatzel]

I've heard worse arguments...on this site...difference is, I don't make a song and dance of it...not even in shit-chat...

[eric922]

I just have one question. Why would a socialist take a job as the head of a major capitalist organization like the IMF? Or is this a different guy? The name sounds familiar.

[RGacky3]

He's what an average Socialist with money looks like: $50,000 a month apartments, First class plane tickets. Wacking off on the domestic servants.

He's no different than a Capitalist--or maybe he's worse. Capitalists don't pretend to be "for the people."

We are all the same, Gack. I'd love to see you with a million dollar expense account. http://www.revleft.com/vb/worst-argument-ever-t162926/revleft/smilies/biggrin.gif

ANYone with money lives well, why would'nt a socialist.

But ideoligcally he's pretty far right wing, the french socialist party is hardly a single block, there are a couple of factions and he's on the right wing of that.

I'd love to see me with a million dollar expense account too.:)

[rylasasin]

That is the exact definition of a strawman argument.

Actually it's a textbook example of Guilt By Association fallacy, not a strawman.

Strawman is an oversimplification and purposeful misrepresentation of the other side's stance and then the arguer procedes to beat up the fallacious representation of their opponent's position.

GBA is a type of Ad-hominem attack Where instead of trying to prove the opponent's proposal wrong based on the character of the opponent, it instead tries to associate the opponent with someone else who had the same or a very similiar platform who does or has done questionable things.

It's the same dumb argument you get from people trying to argue that "Stalin was a communist*, Stalin was responsible for the deaths of millions. So Communism leads to mass murder." nonsense.

Same old tired arguements, same old logical falacies, ad infinitum. Same sort of tactics that Creationtards use.

*Note: Stalin was not a communist. I'm just using this as an example of captialist logical fallacies.

[Marcist]

The IMF is the raper of nations ; ironically, by forcing them to pay large debts and follow libertarian economics. Which have been proven not to work.

By whom? please do share, I would like to use it in the future.