Asterix vs. Tin-Tin

[ColonelCossack]

Which is better?


I think Tin-Tin is a reactionary, fascist collaborator. For instance, once in a Tin-Tin comic, his dog (snowball), saw a black person, and was like, "He's about as bright as his skin colour!". Whoa there, snowball.

Asterix, on the other hand, is much better. No contest.

Btw; I don't know if this counts as spam or not, but if it does, whatev. It's Not supposed to.

[leftace53]

Discounting politics, Asterix. Counting politics, Asterix.

[ColonelCossack]

Discounting politics, Asterix. Counting politics, Asterix.

Have you read the Asterix & great divide? i reckon that's probably the most political one... but where it was politically, that one sort of confused me. Obelix and co. is also good, politically.

[Susurrus]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Frame_from_Breaking_Free.jpg


http://tintinrevolution.free.fr/pages/image001.html

[ColonelCossack]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Frame_from_Breaking_Free.jpg


http://tintinrevolution.free.fr/pages/image001.html

I've read that, but I hadn't thought about that till now...


I suppose, though of course (as revolutionary leftists), we like that more, it doesn't officially count as a Tin-Tin because it isn't made by Herge or the original people that made Tin-Tin. Even though that graphic novel is really awesome, I wasn't including that in the OP because it's not done by the same people as regular Tin tin.


And anyway, as a comic, I still prefer Asterix.

[EvilRedGuy]

Tin-Tin is a revolutionary communist, in the cartoons he is always joining local militias fighting some tyrannic capitalist coup.

[An archist]

Tin-Tin is a revolutionary communist, in the cartoons he is always joining local militias fighting some tyrannic capitalist coup.
Ever read 'tintin in the land of the soviets' of 'tintin in congo'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_the_Land_of_the_Soviets
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_the_Congo

[Wanted Man]

For some reason, I never read Tintin, so Asterix it is.

[Smyg]

Ever read 'tintin in the land of the soviets' of 'tintin in congo'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_the_Land_of_the_Soviets
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_the_Congo

Technically, I believe Herge was pressured into those two.

[An archist]

Technically, I believe Herge was pressured into those two.
Not really pressured, it was just more the spirit of the time, and of course he'd never been to Africa of the USSR, so he just put on paper what he was told. Doesn't change the fact that Tintin in the Congo is still pretty fucking racist.
But ok, other Tintins are pretty cool, I got all of them :D
But tintin revolution is way cooler.

[Susurrus]

From wikipedia:
As Tintinologist Benoît Peeters noted, Hergé did not have the time either to visit the Soviet Union or to analyse all the published information about it. Instead, he based his information on the country purely upon a single pamphlet, Moscou sans voiles (Moscow Unveiled), which had been written by Joseph Douillet (1878-1954), a former Belgian consul to Rostov-on-Don who had spent nine years in Russia following the 1917 revolution. Published in both Belgium and France in 1928, Moscou sans voiles sold well to a public who were eager to believe Douillet's various anti-Bolshevik claims, many of which were of doubtful accuracy. As Michael Farr noted "Hergé freely, though selectively, lifted whole scenes from Douillet's account", including "the chilling election episode portrated on page 32 of the Tintin book" which was "almost identical" to Douillet's description in Moscou sans voiles.

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When Hergé began redrawing his earlier Tintin stories for the modernised colour versions produced at Casterman's suggestion from 1942 onwards, he chose not to redraw Tintin in the Land of the Soviets, believing that the story was too crude. He was embarrassed by it, labelling it a "transgression of my youth".

[ColonelCossack]

Here's a quote from Asterix and the Great Divide:


Brothers, we are hovering on the Brink of village disaster! But the party of the left* offers full employment... Maximum productive potential for all workers... ... Shield bearers included. Don't you listen to Majestix! He'd pluck the very wings from your helmets! Workers of the village, unite!**

This is from Cleverdix, the unanimously elected chief of a village. After the election, his opponent, Majestix, decided to split the village and rule one half of it- his claim for the legitimacy of his rule was, "By divine right". Majestix then goes on to recieve the help of Rome, and Julius caesar, to try and topple Cleverdix.

Clearly, Cleverdix is shown in the more positive light in that:
A) Majestix has an illegitimate claim to rule,
B) He (Majestix) recieves the help of the Romans, the main (imperialist) antagonists of the Asterix comics.

Nuff said. Asterix is more communist. And even as a comic, it's better than tintin.

*Here referring to the side of the village that was physically to the left hand side of the village gate. But c'mon... That has to be a metaphor for left-wing.

**Undoubtedly a reference to the Communist Manifesto.

[Red Future]

"Tintin in the Congo" was Herge's tribute to Belgian Colonialism ..the congolese are shown in the most explicitly racist way.