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TheGodlessUtopian
15th October 2011, 05:43
A relatively simple question: do you wear openly communist/Anarchist gear/clothes to your occupy event? Why or why not?

I have considered wearing a Che T-shirt but decided against it because I didn't want to come off as too strong or alienate potential people to talk with.At the same time, however, I thought it might be a good way too attract the debaters.

thefinalmarch
15th October 2011, 07:07
Drop the commie gear. Workers would be much more comfortable around and willing to talk with other workers who clearly are in the same position and share the same interests, rather than subscribers to ideologies that are perceived to be entirely alien to them and, in fact, antithetical to their interests.

brigadista
15th October 2011, 08:22
just get yourself there

Veovis
15th October 2011, 08:44
I wouldn't deck yourself out in hammers and sickles, but maybe you could wear a little more red than usual. :)

Blackscare
15th October 2011, 08:45
I have considered wearing a Che T-shirt but decided against it because I didn't want to come off as too strong or alienate potential people to talk with.At the same time, however, I thought it might be a good way too attract the debaters.

Not because you didn't want to look goofy? Because that's what Che shirts are, fucking goofy pop-culture symbolism which no longer have any connection to who Che was.


As was said before, for fucks sake try to look normal. Stuff like this just alienates people.

Public Domain
15th October 2011, 09:12
I'm takibg a sign that says "Marx said there would be days like this" as well as a red flag. I'll be wearing a tattered old shirt that has many patches and buttons on it. Some Commie patches... Buttons for the Weather Underground and stuff that says "1,2,3,4 I declare a class war!" and "Keep warm, burn out the rich"

Too much?

Blackscare
15th October 2011, 09:17
I mean, if your point is to go there and make yourself feel better/cool for having shown up looking stylish than no, it's not too far. If you actually want to link up with other people that don't already fall into your own narrow little political niche and spread the word, then yes, it is.

VirgJans12
15th October 2011, 09:17
I'm takibg a sign that says "Marx said there would be days like this" as well as a red flag. I'll be wearing a tattered old shirt that has many patches and buttons on it. Some Commie patches... Buttons for the Weather Underground and stuff that says "1,2,3,4 I declare a class war!" and "Keep warm, burn out the rich"

Too much?

Yes

VirgJans12
15th October 2011, 09:19
Although I do feel it might be good to have *something* there to indicate our presence. To let the people know we're there. If you're not seen, you're not known.

Public Domain
15th October 2011, 09:21
There's only going to be like a dozen people at my local Occupy. They won't have much of a choice but to accept me there.

I don't think it's too much.. I'll leave the red flag but I think my sign is funny.

Blackscare
15th October 2011, 09:21
Although I do feel it might be good to have *something* there to indicate our presence. To let the people know we're there. If you're not seen, you're not known.

I agree actually, I think that if anything a plain red tshirt would be great. Also, his/her idea for the sign is very much like what I'll be carrying in NYC in a few days. Mine is even more simple; "Marx was right."

Hoipolloi Cassidy
15th October 2011, 09:41
http://zazzle.com/theorangepress

Public Domain
15th October 2011, 09:48
http://zazzle.com/theorangepress

Ha, yeah I saw it on one of their cups in a page of Google Images and kept it in mind.

Couldn't think of anything better to put on my sign.

scarletghoul
15th October 2011, 10:07
Bring red flags, of course. wtf are you people thinking. you need to give a communist presence to these things.
On a personal level yes you dont wanna alienate yourself, so maybe leave the stalin banner at home, but come on you have to have some balls. people are not gonna run away upon seeing a red flag. It is possible to be normal and be a communist at the same time

graymouser
15th October 2011, 10:54
Personally i've been dressing in short-sleeve button down shirts with jeans rather than my hammer & sickle tees (well OK I wore one of them as an undershirt but still). I think there is a degree to which it pays to look put together. OTOH we are actively selling the paper and leafleting, and pushing for contacts. We are going to have a Socialist Action banner for the table either today or in the near future as well.

Rusty Shackleford
15th October 2011, 11:15
the days that i was at my occupation i didnt wear anything that was 'communist' red flags werent unfurled because of issues. (not stored at my house) but i might start weraring a fist over wisconsin pin and a very small lenin pin on my lapelle or maybe a red piece of cloth on my wrist.


i usually dont like to wear 'radical' clothing. i refuse to put a red star or sickle and hammer on my ushanka because im not a tacky motherfucker and im not really into kitsch clothing.

its like people who show up in hippie uniforms like they are there for a goddamn Halloween party. its fucking dumb looking.

GatesofLenin
15th October 2011, 11:33
... very small lenin pin on my lapelle ...
I got 2 of those, both from the 25th international. Need to find a revolutionary hat to pin them on now.

Rusty Shackleford
15th October 2011, 11:40
I got 2 of those, both from the 25th international. Need to find a revolutionary hat to pin them on now.



first sentence: nice! a friend of mine has a very impressive collection of old pins.

second sentence: le sigh.


i know im not in any position to tell you how to dress, but like i said, i find it kind of tacky to put revolutionary insignia on a 'revolutionary' (almost always meaning a byudanovka or ushanka) hat.

GatesofLenin
15th October 2011, 15:22
first sentence: nice! a friend of mine has a very impressive collection of old pins.

second sentence: le sigh.


i know im not in any position to tell you how to dress, but like i said, i find it kind of tacky to put revolutionary insignia on a 'revolutionary' (almost always meaning a byudanovka or ushanka) hat.
I typed the second part as a joke, I can talk like a revolutionary but don't wear camo. :D

Smyg
15th October 2011, 15:29
A Red Army uniform is the best choice for any protest, obviously.

Pretty Flaco
15th October 2011, 15:35
just wear your normal clothes. this isn't a fucking dress up party...

Public Domain
15th October 2011, 16:31
So what if these are my normal clothes?

Most of my other clean clothes look like they cost money and are covered in corporate logos...

My tatters are more comfy for what I expect will be a cold day..

Hoipolloi Cassidy
15th October 2011, 16:55
Ha, yeah I saw it on one of their cups in a page of Google Images and kept it in mind.


No problem - it actually hadn't occurred to us that you'd taken "KARl MARX SAID THERE'D BE DAYS LIKE THIS" from the Orange Press, and if it had I'd have said go for it, first because nobody owns a copyright on slogans, second because we're happy if they have a useful life on the picket line or march - that's what they're there for. And, third, we really don't make any money from the t-shirts, mugs and bumper-stickers anyhow, they're just to bring folks' attention to the publications of the Orange Press, which are distributed on a pay-as-you-can, uncapitalist basis.

http://rlv.zcache.com/karl_marx_said_theres_be_days_like_this_tshirt-p235686778199879451z7kpc_325.jpg

As to what to wear to an Occupy - I guess it depends on who you want to communicate with. Definitely dress like a ragged hippie anarchist if you want the media's attention, that's who they think we all are. If you're not a media whore, then dress so that people will want to engage you, ask you what your t-shirt or sign or whatever means. The you can do some good educatin.' We're working on some pretty good t-shirt designs that go in that direction right now.

Cordially,

Quill Mike
Business Representative,
http://theorangepress.com

socialistjustin
15th October 2011, 17:29
I will wear my shirt that has Marx on it and says "I warned you that this would happen". It actually relates to this crisis. The CCCP and Che stuff just makes people want to throw up.

Decolonize The Left
15th October 2011, 19:11
Good god people.

Just wear what's most comfortable and allows for ease of movement. Good shoes in case you need to run (no sandals), good pants and a clean shirt. If you show up in your Halloween Red Brigade costume you will just alienate people from anything/everything you say and furthermore, you'll give the media a prime reason to rip you to shreds on tv later.
"And just look at this fellow here - what does he think, it's 1918? Hahahahaha. Anyway we told you these things were full of dirty commies hell-bent on destroying America and now you can see we're right."

Seriously... leave the commie gear at home. Dress practically. But banners/signs are great.

- August

ВАЛТЕР
15th October 2011, 19:18
Boots or solid shoes with good ankle support, Jeans, a T-shirt/Sweater/jacket (depending on the weather), gloves should be the basics. Bring a bandana or two as well. Just in case you don't want to be recognized.

As for signs, make what you want. I would suggest something about class-warfare. Which many people do not associate with the USSR and whatnot, yet it gets the mind rolling in the right (left) direction.

Dimitri Molotov
15th October 2011, 19:22
Well I wasn't in school today so I was going to drive on up to Occupy Buffalo but by the time I got out of work I would've been late and nobody wanted to drive me in the rain. :( I was thinking about wearing my Hammer and Sickle T-Shirt but I decided not to because the right wing media keeps trying to portray these protesters as little hippie anarchist America haters. While I'm sure a few of them are, the most important message behind this protest is that these 99% of the populations are regular people, not Anti-Americans, or crazy Anarchists, its just supposed to be regular people standing up again corporate domination and the rich 1%. So as much as I think it *Should* be okay to be like "Hey I am an Anarcho-Communist and I want to help the people!" and join in with my commie/anarchist gear, I think all it would do is attract the right wingers to take pictures. I mean come on, if like Glenn Beck for example had a camera crew down there and they caught one of us in a Hammer and Sickle shirt or a Che shirt, they would broadcast that shit like crazy. We probably shouldn't stick out as Anarchists or Commies there because with the little media coverage that these events get in the first place, we don't need any bad publicity.

socialistjustin
15th October 2011, 19:29
I would dress practically, but when you got only 2 shirts, one of which is the Marx shirt, then I am not sure what else I could do. I am guessing most here are openly Communist and wear clothing that associates themselves with it. If that's all you got then wear whatever, unless its Che or CCCP stuff for obvious reasons.

Decolonize The Left
15th October 2011, 19:32
I would dress practically, but when you got only 2 shirts, one of which is the Marx shirt, then I am not sure what else I could do. I am guessing most here are openly Communist and wear clothing that associates themselves with it. If that's all you got then wear whatever, unless its Che or CCCP stuff for obvious reasons.

I am openly communist but I most certainly don't wear clothing that associates me with it. Do you not see the commodification involved there - the pure and blatant consumerism which has been associated with an idea and sold back to you? :confused:

Also, it doesn't look good.

- August

socialistjustin
15th October 2011, 19:39
I do see it and don't really care. I liked the style of the shirt which is why I got it. If I bring a sign saying the same thing as what my shirt says then the media is going to complain and say "look at the commies" . They are already saying this so I don't see the big deal about this.

Yugo45
15th October 2011, 19:39
lol well, this is what my city's (Sarajevo) occupy protest looked like:

http://static.sarajevo-x.com/media/images/vijesti/111015031.2_mn.jpg

http://static.sarajevo-x.com/media/images/vijesti/111015031.5_mn.jpg

http://static.sarajevo-x.com/media/images/vijesti/111015031.14_mn.jpg

http://static.sarajevo-x.com/media/images/vijesti/111015031.25_xl.jpg

http://static.sarajevo-x.com/media/images/vijesti/111015031.26_xl.jpg

ВАЛТЕР
15th October 2011, 19:46
lol well, this is what my city's (Sarajevo) occupy protest looked like:


Sarajevo ljubavi moja!:)

Wish I was there :(. Serbia has yet to get mobilized and I and getting impatient and worried.

Metacomet
15th October 2011, 19:55
Occupy Boston had an occasional Red/Black flag. If I had one I'd bring it, but I don't so I might wear my EZLN t-shirt...................that is if it happens to be clean. But yea, not going out of my way to do so.

VirgJans12
15th October 2011, 23:14
Why are you all so worried about what you wear? If you can and want, bring a flag or something to show your allegiance. But just dress like a normal, everyday worker. People showing up in full-red and/or black with a temporary hammer-and-sickle tattoo across the face won't be taken seriously. I wore a tidy black shirt with an undershirt, and jeans, as I would on any normal day.

Extremism makes the people distance themselves from you. Be that one step further than them and draw them in. Then, when they're drawn in take the next step and so on. Until we're on the brink of revolution, please don't dress as stated above. Look and be a part of the 'rest'. That will make people listen to you.

Susurrus
15th October 2011, 23:44
A Red Army uniform is the best choice for any protest, obviously.

I really want to get a bunch of WWII re-enactors to do this at an counter-fascist protest sometime.

And honestly, at a political rally where tons of friendly debate goes on, I don't see any reason not to wear a modest amount of political clothing. The Ron Paul types and all the other political stripes openly wear their stuff, why can't we?

Tablo
16th October 2011, 05:24
I was going to have a sign about class warfare today, but I didn't have time to make it. Anyway, just dress normal, but I do pressure you to have flags or signs with clear socialist messages. We need to be seen and get people to ask questions.

28350
16th October 2011, 05:35
communists disdain to conceal their apparel

Os Cangaceiros
16th October 2011, 05:44
There's only one acceptable way for communists to dress, an example of which is shown below:

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tfb
16th October 2011, 05:45
So I guess this is how it goes: Communists and anarchists don't wear or carry anything that might identify them as communists or anarchists because they're worried about ruining the protest... Then everyone on RevLeft looks at the protest and says "Bah! Not a single red or black flag! Surely this protest is full of nothing but liberals, social democrats, and libertarians! I knew it!" and turns away.

Commissar Rykov
16th October 2011, 05:48
So I guess this is how it goes: Communists and anarchists don't wear or carry anything that might identify them as communists or anarchists because they're worried about ruining the protest... Then everyone on RevLeft looks at the protest and says "Bah! Not a single red or black flag! Surely this protest is full of nothing but liberals, social democrats, and libertarians! I knew it!" and turns away.
Pretty much. It is extremely stupid and backwards. The Right goes out and makes its presence known and the poor wittle Commies are scared of offending someone. This is exactly why we are getting nowhere.

Tablo
16th October 2011, 05:57
Pretty much. It is extremely stupid and backwards. The Right goes out and makes its presence known and the poor wittle Commies are scared of offending someone. This is exactly why we are getting nowhere.
We are just saying there is no reason to dress like a red army soldier or wear Stalin shirts and shit. We don't want to immediately turn people off with obnoxious Soviet imagery.

Commissar Rykov
16th October 2011, 05:59
We are just saying there is no reason to dress like a red army soldier or wear Stalin shirts and shit. We don't want to immediately turn people off with obnoxious Soviet imagery.
Which I get I have no problem saying, "Fuck the Cosplay." What I am seeing here is a people shouldn't wear anything that shows them as a Communist and that is just stupid. If we aren't showing up and making a presence how can people ask questions? I'm not saying roll out your giant Stalin Banners and march through the streets handing out icepicks but we shouldn't be fucking afraid to the point we are hiding what we are.

Tablo
16th October 2011, 06:06
Which I get I have no problem saying, "Fuck the Cosplay." What I am seeing here is a people shouldn't wear anything that shows them as a Communist and that is just stupid. If we aren't showing up and making a presence how can people ask questions? I'm not saying roll out your giant Stalin Banners and march through the streets handing out icepicks but we shouldn't be fucking afraid to the point we are hiding what we are.
Oh, then I think we are on the same page. I agree with you.

Commissar Rykov
16th October 2011, 06:10
Oh, then I think we are on the same page. I agree with you.
Indeed we are. I know once I saw some Black and Red banners at the Occupy Salt Lake City I felt a lot more comfortable talking with people about politics though I am noticing a divide already in the group with the Liberals trying to distance themselves from the more Radical Elements but that doesn't surprise me in regards to Utah. Too many Paultard, Randroids, and nutters mixed in but that is what you get with a Mass Movement. I figure someone can wear their stupid Ron Paul shirt I can wear a Che Shirt at the very least and not feel like a complete douche.:lol:

Blackscare
16th October 2011, 06:15
If we aren't showing up and making a presence how can people ask questions? I'm not saying roll out your giant Stalin Banners and march through the streets handing out icepicks but we shouldn't be fucking afraid to the point we are hiding what we are.

When Bolsheviks were giving speeches in the streets and meeting halls of Petrograd, do you think that they had to wear che shirts to get noticed (I know, I know, shut up)? Did they need little hammer and sickle head scarves or the like? No, maybe they wore a pin or something of the like, but they didn't dress up in costumes because it wasn't necessary. I'm not against wearing a pin or waving a flag, but don't pretend as if the international communist uniform is a cafepress tshirt and a mao hat.


Well, to be fair, you did say something to the effect of "fuck cosplaying" or whatever, so I guess I'm on the same side as you.

Commissar Rykov
16th October 2011, 06:19
When Bolsheviks were giving speeches in the streets and meeting halls of Petrograd, do you think that they had to wear che shirts to get noticed (I know, I know, shut up)? Did they need little hammer and sickle head scarves or the like? No, maybe they wore a pin or something of the like, but they didn't dress up in costumes because it wasn't necessary. I'm not against wearing a pin or waving a flag, but don't pretend as if the international communist uniform is a cafepress tshirt and a mao hat.


Well, to be fair, you did say something to the effect of "fuck cosplaying" or whatever, so I guess I'm on the same side as you.
We are the same side. I'm just saying to keep it simple. If you look like you just fell out of 1950s Cuba or China then you have gone too far. There is making a stance known and there is being a crazy nutbar who scares the shit out of everyone while you scream in your megaphone, "The Vanguard is here comrades never fear!" I know the types of people some are complaining about and I agree but I don't think we go so far that no one even knows we are around. I know I tweaked the nerves of some Randroids involved but then again I wasn't looking to talk to them I was looking for the people like myself who have been completely fucked by the system.

I will also admit I probably have a different view since I live in Utah aka the Mormon Curtain and thus my views piss people off just by expressing them alone thus it really doesn't matter what I do. I still think the best response I ever got was from a young undergrad student from BYU Majoring in Business. Politics for some reason came up and I started discussing my views about how the People should be in charge and capitalism needs to go the way of the dogs and the like. She then stated that I sounded like a communist to which I admitted I was. Well her head about exploded as she started screeching that I was promoting the Work of Satan, was a Antichrist, Prophet of Evil, that I had a reserved seat in Hell, etc. I then asked her why God was ok with the poor being exploited but wasn't ok with them taking the power away from their exploiters. She just walked off screaming about what an evil bastard I was.

GatesofLenin
16th October 2011, 09:46
When Bolsheviks were giving speeches in the streets and meeting halls of Petrograd, do you think that they had to wear che shirts to get noticed (I know, I know, shut up)? Did they need little hammer and sickle head scarves or the like? No, maybe they wore a pin or something of the like, but they didn't dress up in costumes because it wasn't necessary. I'm not against wearing a pin or waving a flag, but don't pretend as if the international communist uniform is a cafepress tshirt and a mao hat.


Well, to be fair, you did say something to the effect of "fuck cosplaying" or whatever, so I guess I'm on the same side as you.
The Bolshevik supporters wore red bands around their arms, was a popular thing to do in the late 1910's and 20's in the USA as well before the Red Menace trials started.

thefinalmarch
16th October 2011, 10:20
come storm the winter palace with me bro

drinks at mine to follow

Blackscare
16th October 2011, 10:49
The Bolshevik supporters wore red bands around their arms, was a popular thing to do in the late 1910's and 20's in the USA as well before the Red Menace trials started.

Which is more in line with what I was saying; "a pin or something of the like". A clear symbol that isn't overly kitschy is ideal.

GatesofLenin
16th October 2011, 12:11
Which is more in line with what I was saying; "a pin or something of the like". A clear symbol that isn't overly kitschy is ideal.

Gotcha! Well said comrade.

Susurrus
16th October 2011, 13:51
Also they had flags, and as I recall, pretty much everyone there would wear something red(armband, pin, whatever). I may be wrong about that though, though lenin did always have that little red ribbon on.

o well this is ok I guess
17th October 2011, 04:49
Why not, man? Every radical leftist seems to be making their presence well known.

wunderbar
17th October 2011, 07:28
My red IWW flag has gotten pretty good reception from the local occupy event, with quite a bit of people coming over to me with questions (usually either "what does your flag say?" or "IWW still exists?"). I've been able to give out a lot of literature and Very Little Red Songbooks.

Le Socialiste
17th October 2011, 08:11
I'm of the opinion that it's okay to wear clothing bearing communist symbols and/or slogans, but it's best kept to a minimum. I'd personally opt for a red and black armband and pin (maybe a flag, but seeing as how I don't own one at present...:rolleyes:). If you show up to these things decked out in "commie gear" you're just going to scare people away. At the same time, though, it's important that those of us who are able to participate in the OWS movement (and any protest and/or demonstration for that matter) make clear our position.

Having said that, I'm guilty of buying a POUM t-shirt as well as an IWW t-shirt and pin (both of which I bought through their online store). Honesty time - is that too much? The POUM shirt was bought just as I was getting into revolutionary leftism and I didn't want to buy your standard Che t-shirt. I feel better about the IWW items, considering they came from their online store.

Nox
17th October 2011, 08:21
Black/red flag would be good, but not a Stalin or Mao t-shirt for gods sake

Le Socialiste
17th October 2011, 08:29
Black/red flag would be good, but not a Stalin or Mao t-shirt for gods sake

Yeah, that's a big no no...

Unless your goal is to alienate the vast majority of those assembled around you, in which case go right ahead. :D

Manic Impressive
17th October 2011, 08:39
Never ask Revleft's advice on what to wear, make up your own mind.

Wanted Man
17th October 2011, 08:49
"Commie gear"? Sometimes you'd think that people are trying to sound dumb. Me and my bros went to this totally rad occupation in our commie gear...

"Commie gear" is dumb anyway. Print shirts with Che or bands on them are cool in high school (wait, they're not!), but at some point you turn 17 and you start getting your own tastes instead of wanting to be the kind of guy who says: "HEY LOOK AT ME, I'M WEARING MY POLITICS ON MY CHEST. ATTENTION PLZ!!!" Of course, there are always exceptions, just think of the old dudes showing up to every protest in hammer & sickle shirts.

Of course, this is pretty much a discussion with no winners. In the other corner, we have people who say: hey, let's leave the "commie gear" (puke) at home for one day and sell our papers while we're dressed as ordinary workers. That will fool them! Or perhaps people who want to go to a protest incognito and casually drop the subject of Marx being right.

I don't think there is a real right or wrong in this. To give a definitive opinion on how best to influence an Occupy protest, you need to be fully aware of the composition of the Occupy movement, where it's going, etc. I doubt there's anyone in the world who has that awareness right now, unless they're psychic.

Rooster
17th October 2011, 10:52
I have no idea if there is such a thing as communist gear. Normally I just try to dress for the weather. Thank fuck for long johns, man. Seriously, if it's a cold day then you should get a pair, especially if you're standing outside a lot. I agree with the posters who said that dressing all cosplay is stupid. It just makes you look like a weirdo. You should just get a big red flag. They're cheap and easy to carry around and can attract a lot of attention. Also, the flag pole can make a pretty good cosh if needs be.

Reznov
17th October 2011, 12:04
Not because you didn't want to look goofy? Because that's what Che shirts are, fucking goofy pop-culture symbolism which no longer have any connection to who Che was.


As was said before, for fucks sake try to look normal. Stuff like this just alienates people.

I second this.

I'm just going to wear a red t-shirt, nothing fancy.

Reznov
17th October 2011, 12:07
Never ask Revleft's advice on what to wear, make up your own mind.

This is a good theory to follow regardless of what the subject is about.

Pretty Flaco
17th October 2011, 21:57
And honestly, at a political rally where tons of friendly debate goes on, I don't see any reason not to wear a modest amount of political clothing. The Ron Paul types and all the other political stripes openly wear their stuff, why can't we?

Just because any other people do it doesn't make it any less stupid.

agnixie
18th October 2011, 06:53
The guy who is virtually our "always on the ground" ows.org tech team member showed up wearing a three piece suit and flying the anarcho-syndicalist flag. I think anything (except che shirts, che shirts are pretty much going to make you seem like a clueless bourgie students in many circles unless it has more than his face on it :p ) can pass if that passed.

The trick is not to overdo it; and be about the message, not the label. Screw labels, we've spent a fucking century in sectarian battles over labels.

Veovis
19th October 2011, 07:51
Go nekkid.

Commissar Rykov
21st October 2011, 04:28
Just recently got back from my local Occupy Movement and wore a Che shirt little did I know that the local Tea Party was going to come and counter-protest. I was amused by the reception I got a lot of gasping and "Oh my God the Reds!" It was amusing to say the least one fellow was actually rather polite but the rest were just ignorant as fuck. The reception from my fellow protestors was exceptionally good though giving the ability to discuss my politics and which lead to a discussion on American Imperialism. All in all good though the Teabaggers had a literally shitfit with it.

I was amused at how many Bourgeois and Petit-Bourgeois supporters there are of the Tea Party literally every last one that wanted to argue began with, "I am a business owner and I earned my way to the top." Ha.

Veovis
21st October 2011, 04:33
Bring red flags, of course. wtf are you people thinking. you need to give a communist presence to these things.
On a personal level yes you dont wanna alienate yourself, so maybe leave the stalin banner at home, but come on you have to have some balls. people are not gonna run away upon seeing a red flag. It is possible to be normal and be a communist at the same time

You know, I was surprised at how many people did not know what the red flag stood for when I brought mine to the Portland occupation when it first started. The left really does need to get its act together in this country. We need more visibility.

Commissar Rykov
21st October 2011, 04:41
You know, I was surprised at how many people did not know what the red flag stood for when I brought mine to the Portland occupation when it first started. The left really does need to get its act together in this country. We need more visibility.
I wasn't even originally going to give any support to my local Occupy Movement because it is a small clusterfuck of ideologies with Tea Party supporters and other garbage which made it awkward when we got counter-protested. I don't know whether I will show up for anymore but I did meet some people that I got along with.

Then again I never expected much from Reactionary Southern Utah this place is so fucking racist it is hella crazy. The best thing about the night was the excellent reception we got from the Hispanic Community who honked and told us to run the Tea Party the fuck out of town.:lol:

MustCrushCapitalism
22nd October 2011, 01:54
I'm takibg a sign that says "Marx said there would be days like this" as well as a red flag. I'll be wearing a tattered old shirt that has many patches and buttons on it. Some Commie patches... Buttons for the Weather Underground and stuff that says "1,2,3,4 I declare a class war!" and "Keep warm, burn out the rich"

Too much?

To summarize my reaction to this - AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAH!!!!

Agent Ducky
22nd October 2011, 02:01
I brought my new red and black flag, which brought all the socialists to the yard (I immediately made new friends over that. One of them was from Revleft (In Utero says hi to everyone on Revleft, lolz) First person I've ever met irl that I knew online first. :D It was really fun, and people asked me about my red and black flag, and I got to spread awareness of my ideas, which most people had no clue about. Also I had a sign that said "In Capitali$t Amerika, bank robs YOU."

Metacomet
22nd October 2011, 03:12
I brought my new red and black flag, which brought all the socialists to the yard (I immediately made new friends over that. One of them was from Revleft (In Utero says hi to everyone on Revleft, lolz) First person I've ever met irl that I knew online first. :D It was really fun, and people asked me about my red and black flag, and I got to spread awareness of my ideas, which most people had no clue about. Also I had a sign that said "In Capitali$t Amerika, bank robs YOU."


I can't find a flag like that anywhere, where'd you get yours?

I suppose it would be all life-stylist and crap to make one, but i'm useless at sewing.

The Jay
22nd October 2011, 03:15
Also I had a sign that said "In Capitali$t Amerika, bank robs YOU."

This is the best thing I've seen all week, thank you sir, thank you.

MustCrushCapitalism
22nd October 2011, 03:26
I can't find a flag like that anywhere
Same here. I've been looking for one for some time.

Agent Ducky
22nd October 2011, 05:27
I had my dad's coworkers make it for me out of scrap material. They do sewing and flag-making and stuff. Yeah. It's really awesome with the metal rings and everything. :lol: Sorry I'm not much help, am I?

ComradeGrant
22nd October 2011, 19:37
I brought my black flag to the first day of Occupy Portland. Good reception from other people with black flags, no one else seemed opposed to it though. One kid hugged me after my speech (which one of you was it I know you're here).

wunderbar
22nd October 2011, 23:45
I can't find a flag like that anywhere, where'd you get yours?


AK Press and RAAN both sell red and black flags. AK's is more expensive, but I got mine from them 50% off a couple months ago (I think their "Fuck the Fourth" July 4th sale).

SHORAS
23rd October 2011, 00:00
I suppose gone are the days when communists wore suits or at least tried to look their best! Now it's all people wearing 'communist fashion'!

RED DAVE
23rd October 2011, 04:54
Fabulous that the most important issue for the Occupations for some people is what they're going to wear.

RED DAVE

SHORAS
23rd October 2011, 06:22
Fabulous that the most important issue for the Occupations for some people is what they're going to wear.

RED DAVE

The Spectacle init bruv.

Metacomet
24th October 2011, 01:00
Fabulous that the most important issue for the Occupations for some people is what they're going to wear.

RED DAVE


Well it is almost Halloween

Ocean Seal
24th October 2011, 03:31
Try to wear something that identifies you or your organization so that people can get your perspective. Don't wear Che Shirts. In fact don't wear Che shirts in general.

TheGodlessUtopian
24th October 2011, 18:36
At first I didn't wear anything other than a rainbow pin and a Youth for Socialist Action pin.Then I gradually brought my che bag and che shirt (there this one other guy with a che shirt so I had to "one up him." Currently I have a soviet flag hanging on my tent entrance.

Ah,plenty of chances to "debate" people,but no real options that would lead anywhere.Will continue looking.People know I am a socialist but they haven't seem too interested in asking questions.I have been mostly formulating my responses to their idiotic one liners.

Anyways,since it is cold as fuck down here probably my che bag and my YSA pin are going to be the only real commie gear that I end up wearing on a daily basis.

*vanishes back to occupy*

The Jay
24th October 2011, 18:38
Go get em comrade.

Ele'ill
24th October 2011, 20:50
A relatively simple question: do you wear openly communist/Anarchist gear/clothes to your occupy event? Why or why not?

I don't wear openly political clothes. I have and will likely continue to make and bring banners and fliers when appropriate.