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Triple A
13th October 2011, 21:17
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Have a victorious laugh people.
12 DE OCTUBRE | Persecuciones y cargas policiales
Incidentes entre Mossos y antifascistas en Poblenou por un concierto 'ultra'
Vídeo: Atlas
Dos detenidos y tres heridos durante el intento de boicoteo del acto
Decenas de antifascistas tratan de entrar a la fuerza en el local del concierto
Persecuciones y cargas en el barrio para evitar enfrentamientos entre bandos
El concierto ultraderechista organizado este 12 de octubre en el barrio de Poblenou de Barcelona ha llegado acompañado de incidentes entre grupos de antifascistas y agentes de la Brigada Móvil -antidisturbios- de los Mossos d'Esquadra que se han saldado con dos detenciones.
Los alborotos han comenzado hacia las 20.00 de la tarde cuando decenas de manifestantes han acudido a las puertas del bar 'The Other Place', situado en el 226 de la calle Pujades, para boicotear las actuaciones organizadas por el partido ultra Democracia Nacional (DN) para culminar su particular "jornada patriótica" por el Día de la Hispanidad.
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/10/12/barcelona/1318435805.html
So it says antifascists forced entry into the place and faced the nazis who were having a patriotic journey in the day of Spain.
Police clashed with protesters all over the neigbourhood.
A nazi complaing here (http://www.acn.cat/acn/637705/Societat/video/concert-nazi-Sabadell-antifeixistes-Guardia-Urbana-mossos.html)
The guy says a group of antifascists not only ruined the concert but also destroyed the nazi place.
ВАЛТЕР
13th October 2011, 22:44
Awww poor Nazis :(
Jk fuck them.
Shame they didn't lock them in the place and then burn it down.
Zealot
13th October 2011, 23:11
Am I heartless, because this news made me feel good
Delenda Carthago
13th October 2011, 23:25
If you use these kind of tactics, you are becoming like them!!!
No,kiddin. Fuckem.
OHumanista
13th October 2011, 23:45
So so sad, my heart breaks everytime I hear about crying nazis. :rolleyes:
Nah, not really, I laugh hard :laugh:
Sasha
14th October 2011, 00:23
Autonomous and anti-fascist incidents between Poblenou for a concert at 'ultra'
playhttp://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundo/imagenes/2011/10/13/barcelona/1318435805_g_0.jpg
Video: Atlas
Two arrested and three wounded during the attempted boycott of the event
Dozens of anti-fascists try to enter the local force in concert
Chases and charges in the neighborhood to prevent clashes between factions
ELMUNDO.es | J. WHO | Barcelona
Updated Thursday 13/10/2011 11:08 hours
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The right-wing organized this concert October 12 in the neighborhood of Poble Nou in Barcelona has arrived accompanied by clashes between anti-fascist groups and officers from the Mobile-riot-of the Catalan police that have resulted in two arrests.
The riots have begun towards 20.00 in the afternoon when dozens of protesters have flocked to the doors of the bar 'The Other Place', located in the street 226 Pujades to boycott actions organized by the ultra party Democracia Nacional (DN) to complete their particular "Patriot Day" by Columbus Day.
After reaching the confluence of the Bilbao streets Pujades, some protesters have lashed out with kicks and stones against the door of local wounding three of the eighties 'skinhead' and right-wing activists who attended the concert of the groups 'para bellum' and Brigade 1238. "
It was then that the Autonomous Police have launched several charges that have ended with two anti-fascist arrested for assault against authority.
After several races and chases through the streets Pujades and Bilbao, the Autonomous device organized twenty vans in an attempt to protect the entrance to the premises and thus avoid clashes between both sides in the streets.
The Catalan police, despite having sought permission from the Office of Barcelona to enter the premises, could not stop the concert video or record the activities organized by the local DN being a private club.
The party, which for years has compounded the acts of Columbus Day in the Catalan capital, has kept secret the location of the concert until early afternoon, precisely to avoid the police presence and fascism.
It should be remembered that 'The Other Place' and focused police attention in 2009 when it was recorded as part of a police operation against the group of bikers' The Hells Angels investigation for arms trafficking and drugs.
considering the mention in the article, the name of the bar and the logo in the vid i'm 100% sure this was an hellsangels clubhouse, pretty hardcore, both that the barcalona fash are allowed to organise concerts there and that the local anti-fa are not afraid to attack regardless
sinplomo
14th October 2011, 04:47
3 nazis were sent to hospital and 2 antifascist arrested
The guy with the red tshit (spanish football team) is a high dirigent of a nazi organisation in Spain, the MSR
some pics and vids
http://www.grupnaciodigital.com/galeries/naciodigital/AldarullsConcertNaziPoblenouBarcelona2011/gran/Jordi_Borras_01_alderulls_concert_nazi_poblenou_20 11.jpg
http://www.grupnaciodigital.com/galeries/naciodigital/AldarullsConcertNaziPoblenouBarcelona2011/gran/Jordi_Borras_03_alderulls_concert_nazi_poblenou_20 11.jpg
http://www.grupnaciodigital.com/galeries/naciodigital/AldarullsConcertNaziPoblenouBarcelona2011/gran/Jordi_Borras_04_alderulls_concert_nazi_poblenou_20 11.jpg
http://www.grupnaciodigital.com/galeries/naciodigital/AldarullsConcertNaziPoblenouBarcelona2011/gran/Jordi_Borras_05_alderulls_concert_nazi_poblenou_20 11.jpg
http://www.ara.cat/societat/Atac-Other-Place-MANOLO-GARCIA_ARAIMA20111012_0113_1.jpg
http://www.ara.cat/societat/The-Other-Place-MANOLO-GARCIA_ARAIMA20111012_0114_1.jpg
If cops just showed up some minutes later ...
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PS: I hope that someon puts the pics and vids, because I am unable to post links (I've got less and 25 posts :( ). Take out the blank spaces and replace h**p with http
done - psycho
Yuppie Grinder
14th October 2011, 05:02
ha
nazis mad
sinplomo
14th October 2011, 05:03
And yes, it was a Hell's Angels club.
PC LOAD LETTER
14th October 2011, 05:12
I wish there were more anti-fascist actions here in the US ...
Property Is Robbery
14th October 2011, 05:22
I have a question for anybody knowledgeable about democracia nacional. What do they think about Franco?
Yuppie Grinder
14th October 2011, 05:29
I wish there were more anti-fascist actions here in the US ...
What we need is more anti-capitalist action. Fascism, Nazism, and white nationalism have no place in the American mainstream. They are not what's threatening to workerist movements.
DDR
14th October 2011, 05:37
I have a question for anybody knowledgeable about democracia nacional. What do they think about Franco?
DN? They don't speak about it, these fas are like Le Pen. The thing to ask however, is why was an inportant guy from the msr in a dn concert???
PC LOAD LETTER
14th October 2011, 05:42
What we need is more anti-capitalist action. Fascism, Nazism, and white nationalism have no place in the American mainstream. They are not what's threatening to workerist movements.
We shouldn't ignore fascism in the US. Fascist/WN/Nazi support is widespread throughout the country even though these sentiments aren't held by the majority of Americans. Racially charged murders and attacks still happen all over the place. This should not be ignored.
Consider that the KKK has 179 (ish) chapters throughout the US ... and how easy it is to find KKK symbolism and even NSDAP symbolism here in the south ...
sinplomo
14th October 2011, 05:50
DN? They don't speak about it, these fas are like Le Pen. The thing to ask however, is why was an inportant guy from the msr in a dn concert???
Nazis hanging out with nazis :huh:
Yuppie Grinder
14th October 2011, 07:17
We shouldn't ignore fascism in the US. Fascist/WN/Nazi support is widespread throughout the country even though these sentiments aren't held by the majority of Americans. Racially charged murders and attacks still happen all over the place. This should not be ignored.
Consider that the KKK has 179 (ish) chapters throughout the US ... and how easy it is to find KKK symbolism and even NSDAP symbolism here in the south ...
I'm not saying that we should be at all tolerant of white nationalism/supremecism, especially when violent. Actualy anti-racist action could be a way for socialists to undo some of the anti-left brainwashing America's had over the years. No mainstream American political group will ever call themselves Fascist or Nazi. I forgot who said after the fall of Italian Fascism that " the fascists of tommorow will not call themselves fascists", but that's an important point.
Smyg
14th October 2011, 07:22
I approve. So very, very much.
Zav
14th October 2011, 07:47
Shame they didn't lock them in the place and then burn it down.
And give FOX News enough ammo to start a militia (literally and figuratively)? Fuck no.
Delenda Carthago
14th October 2011, 10:42
http://www.ara.cat/societat/Atac-Other-Place-MANOLO-GARCIA_ARAIMA20111012_0113_1.jpg
dude attacked the nazis on his flip-flops! EPIC!
Delenda Carthago
14th October 2011, 10:49
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Iron Felix
14th October 2011, 11:22
Nice news to start a day with.
DDR
14th October 2011, 15:40
Nazis hanging out with nazis :huh:
Nazis hanging out with nazis who hate each other group, extrange.
Kornilios Sunshine
14th October 2011, 15:47
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
GatesofLenin
14th October 2011, 15:49
Good, I applaud this. I love me some left-side justice. :cool:
fionntan
14th October 2011, 15:59
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
Piss off...
An archist
14th October 2011, 16:10
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
I would say that attacking a place where nazi's are meeting and organizing a concert, makes it more difficult for those nazi's to meet and organize...
Smyg
14th October 2011, 16:18
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
You're fucking hilarious.
Die Rote Fahne
14th October 2011, 20:30
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
You call yourself a communist?
Kamos
14th October 2011, 20:44
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
Let's take that one step further: "In my country, riot police would have beat the fuck out of all communist rebels." See what I'm getting at?
This one lasted 173 posts, I suppose.
EDIT: Since everyone has already insulted you I'll do something else and try to cure you out of this idiotic viewpoint.
Stopping fascists from speaking makes you just as bad as them.
You could just as easily say that not stopping fascists from speaking—giving them the opportunity to organize to impose their agenda on the rest of us—makes you as bad as them. If you care about freedom, don’t stand idly by while people mobilize to take it away.
From the "freespeech vs antifa action" FAQ or whatever it is called. Read the whole thread - it's stickied here.
Anarchist Skinhead
15th October 2011, 02:37
Kommounistis- you are a fucking moron, now do us all a favour and crawl back in the hole you came from please you troll. Thanks in advance.
Agnapostate
15th October 2011, 04:11
Fascists or racialists that restrict themselves to espousing their ideologies shouldn't be violently opposed. Those that organize themselves into Klan-style militias and direct action groups should be opposed by parallel anti-fascist direct action.
Princess Luna
15th October 2011, 04:54
We shouldn't ignore fascism in the US. Fascist/WN/Nazi support is widespread throughout the country even though these sentiments aren't held by the majority of Americans. Racially charged murders and attacks still happen all over the place. This should not be ignored.
Consider that the KKK has 179 (ish) chapters throughout the US ... and how easy it is to find KKK symbolism and even NSDAP symbolism here in the south ...
To be fair, the KKK is pretty much dead, despite having 179 chapters nationwide it's membership is only about 5000, also the FBI did a damn good job of infecting the Klan with a incredible amount of paranoia and each chapter believes the others are infiltrated so they refuse to work together.
PC LOAD LETTER
15th October 2011, 07:06
To be fair, the KKK is pretty much dead, despite having 179 chapters nationwide it's membership is only about 5000, also the FBI did a damn good job of infecting the Klan with a incredible amount of paranoia and each chapter believes the others are infiltrated so they refuse to work together.
But they still exist. And, formal Klan membership may be falling, but WN beliefs are rampant in this country ...
Kornilios Sunshine
15th October 2011, 10:17
Yes everyone you are right. I am not a communist.I am a bastard right winger.But tell me, this "antifascist" violence taught them a lesson or made them even more angry to the extent of doing worse things?
Kornilios Sunshine
15th October 2011, 10:18
Kommounistis- you are a fucking moron, now do us all a favour and crawl back in the hole you came from please you troll. Thanks in advance.
You are very kind, thanks.
Anarchist Skinhead
15th October 2011, 12:56
Parakalo. You can leave now.
And big respect for the action to comrades in Barca, thats the way to deal with scumbags.
Kornilios Sunshine
15th October 2011, 14:33
Parakalo. You can leave now.
And big respect for the action to comrades in Barca, thats the way to deal with scumbags.
Congrats Congrats. :thumbdown:You are one of the most undecent person I've ever met.And a fellow leftist?You cannot talk normaly without swearing.(talking about your previous post.)
sinplomo
15th October 2011, 14:54
Yes everyone you are right. I am not a communist.I am a bastard right winger.But tell me, this "antifascist" violence taught them a lesson or made them even more angry to the extent of doing worse things?
yeah ... don't bother Hitler, he will get angry
don't bother Franco, he will get angry
don't bother Mussolini, he will get angry
don't bother Israel, they will get angry
don't bother Capitalism, he will get angry
blablablabla
Anarchist Skinhead
15th October 2011, 16:34
You haven't met me. And I am not your "fellow leftist". Now if you want to cry about "fascist violence" of anti-fascists i am sure you can find suitable forum for it, because you clearly got on the wrong one. See? No swearing ;)
Kornilios Sunshine
15th October 2011, 16:59
You haven't met me. And I am not your "fellow leftist". Now if you want to cry about "fascist violence" of anti-fascists i am sure you can find suitable forum for it, because you clearly got on the wrong one. See? No swearing ;)
Whatever you say.Fortunatelly, ypu are not fellow for me.Oh and if it's this way, you can also go another forum and swear people about their opinions.
Kornilios Sunshine
15th October 2011, 16:59
yeah ... don't bother Hitler, he will get angry
don't bother Franco, he will get angry
don't bother Mussolini, he will get angry
don't bother Israel, they will get angry
don't bother Capitalism, he will get angry
blablablabla
You are an idiot.
The Man
15th October 2011, 19:17
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
Does this mean that if we had a Communist revolution it would put us on the 'stupidity level' of the bourgeoisie? Now, your boasting around your nationalist pride by showing off how your pigs, armored, with deadly weapons can effectively kill men and women, some as young as 14, who are against hatred?
You call yourself a Marxist-Leninist? Bullshit. Let me say this, it's better if you just leave Marxism-Leninism as an ideology and go join something else, if you are against this type of action against Nazis.
You're no comrade of mine.
Kornilios Sunshine
15th October 2011, 19:50
Does this mean that if we had a Communist revolution it would put us on the 'stupidity level' of the bourgeoisie? Now, your boasting around your nationalist pride by showing off how your pigs, armored, with deadly weapons can effectively kill men and women, some as young as 14, who are against hatred?
You call yourself a Marxist-Leninist? Bullshit. Let me say this, it's better if you just leave Marxism-Leninism as an ideology and go join something else, if you are against this type of action against Nazis.
You're no comrade of mine.
No.But I think what happened was action,not revolution.Of course, in a revolution there would be force.I am against the violence of everyone unless he is idle. If the nazi pigs attacked for examples immigrants and antifascists went to defend the immigrants by attacking the nazis, this is called antifascist violence.I choose my ideology which is MLism and calling me a nationalist is insulting me.For this, I do not need you as a comrade and I do not care if you consider me a comrade of yours.
The Man
15th October 2011, 20:12
No.But I think what happened was action,not revolution.Of course, in a revolution there would be force.I am against the violence of everyone unless he is idle. If the nazi pigs attacked for examples immigrants and antifascists went to defend the immigrants by attacking the nazis, this is called antifascist violence.I choose my ideology which is MLism and calling me a nationalist is insulting me.For this, I do not need you as a comrade and I do not care if you consider me a comrade of yours.
Then stop boasting about how great your tools of state repression are.
This song reminds me of you:
tGDT7wKvdRk
Atleast listen to the lyrics for about 15 seconds.
Anarchist Skinhead
15th October 2011, 22:20
fucking hell, is this guy even for real ? :crying:
Commissar Rykov
15th October 2011, 23:56
People are crying about Antifa actions? Really? I think I am going to go back to drinking.
Kornilios Sunshine
16th October 2011, 07:06
Then stop boasting about how great your tools of state repression are.
This song reminds me of you:
tGDT7wKvdRk
Atleast listen to the lyrics for about 15 seconds.
And you remind me of this song..it perfectly fits to you..listen to the whole song.
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Renno
16th October 2011, 19:02
fucking hell, is this guy even for real ? :crying:
No, he is from KKE, ask any greek anarchist or anti-authorian, and they can tell you that he is real.
La Comédie Noire
16th October 2011, 19:15
Even if you aren't inclined to participate in punch ups and street brawls, there is still plenty you can do for antifa, including medical assistance and propaganda.
Kornilios Sunshine
16th October 2011, 19:37
Even if you aren't inclined to participate in punch ups and street brawls, there is still plenty you can do for antifa, including medical assistance and propaganda.
I never said I am against antifa action.I am only against violence as an action.
Kornilios Sunshine
16th October 2011, 19:39
No, he is from KKE, ask any greek anarchist or anti-authorian, and they can tell you that he is real.
Wait you say I am not real but then you say I am real? WTF? And of course,if you ask Greek anarchists about KKE members they will propably despise them.
fionntan
16th October 2011, 20:04
I never said I am against antifa action.I am only against violence as an action.
And your solution would be what a good strong talking to?:laugh:
PhoenixAsh
16th October 2011, 20:05
Yes everyone you are right. I am not a communist.I am a bastard right winger.But tell me, this "antifascist" violence taught them a lesson or made them even more angry to the extent of doing worse things?
What do you mean: "worse things"? Do you have trouble understanding the nature and goals of fascism and nazism? What is it you do not get exactly?
These guys with their concerts, rallies and demo's are trying to create a platform for organisation and recruitment to grow their organisations with the specific intend and purpose for violence. Its one of the main tennants of their political ideology.
Fascism is a movement bend on usurping power by any means necessary militarising their supporters against everybody they disagree with. And we are ranking at the top of their hit list. Giving them that opportunity is ridiculous and not only counter productive...but downright dangerous.
Do you think these fuckers are impressed by a crowd of people singing Kumbaya and waving banners saying: peace, love and kindness to all ???
Wait you say I am not real but then you say I am real? WTF? And of course,if you ask Greek anarchists about KKE members they will propably despise them.
Yes...well...that is not surprising if they act and think like you. WTF dude, seriously? :sneaky:
Kornilios Sunshine
16th October 2011, 20:59
What do you mean: "worse things"? Do you have trouble understanding the nature and goals of fascism and nazism? What is it you do not get exactly?
These guys with their concerts, rallies and demo's are trying to create a platform for organisation and recruitment to grow their organisations with the specific intend and purpose for violence. Its one of the main tennants of their political ideology.
Fascism is a movement bend on usurping power by any means necessary militarising their supporters against everybody they disagree with. And we are ranking at the top of their hit list. Giving them that opportunity is ridiculous and not only counter productive...but downright dangerous.
Do you think these fuckers are impressed by a crowd of people singing Kumbaya and waving banners saying: peace, love and kindness to all ???
Yes...well...that is not surprising if they act and think like you. WTF dude, seriously? :sneaky:
And I am telling you again,even if we beat them we do not stop them from doing nazi things.However,this does not mean we have to stop the antifascistonazi propaganda.If it was violence to shut them up, I would also support it as an action but since they obtain even more rage when they are attacked, I think it is pointless.
And I have to inform you that KKE is the only true communist and M-L Stalinist party in Greece.
Agnapostate
16th October 2011, 23:30
If they write, write back. If they fight, fight back.
Think tank intellectuals such as Jared Taylor and J. Phillipe Rushton should not be violently assaulted or forcibly prevented from expressing their ideas, not only because of the value of freedom of expression, but because it gives them an undeserved martyrdom and fosters the impression that they can't be defeated in arguments.
White power skinheads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_skinhead), on the other hand, have a history of committing hate crimes when they gain sufficient power (depicted in American History X, for example), and should not be allowed to even get off the ground.
Delenda Carthago
19th October 2011, 19:31
And I have to inform you that KKE is the only true communist and M-L Stalinist party in Greece.
Yeah...not really.
Ravachol
6th November 2011, 00:16
I never said I am against antifa action.I am only against violence as an action.
Said the Stalinist:
http://www.opusklassiek.nl/boeken/afbeeldingen/nkvd_executie.jpg
I think the NKVD will disagree with you there bro
Spets
6th November 2011, 00:27
Then stop boasting about how great your tools of state repression are.
This song reminds me of you:
tGDT7wKvdRk
Atleast listen to the lyrics for about 15 seconds.
Phil Ochs version is better, and that guy sounds like Bob Dylan after he got nut slapped.
Leftsolidarity
6th November 2011, 00:45
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
What the fuck is this?^
Renno
6th November 2011, 00:54
Wait you say I am not real but then you say I am real? WTF? And of course,if you ask Greek anarchists about KKE members they will propably despise them.
This is how real you are;
Believe it or not,this is fascist violence.Because you are showing you fell into the stupidity level of Nazis.Good to see though they were arrested.In my country,riot police would have beat the fuck out of the antifas.
And especially for you, some old skool action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTiOb35SSs0&feature=player_embedded
IndependentCitizen
6th November 2011, 22:26
I never said I am against antifa action.I am only against violence as an action.
Uh...what?
There was a video about AFA in the UK, made ages ago. A member of AFA very rightly said "The fascists have a political agenda, but they also have a physical one, which must be met".
Very true, fascists will attack - we need a defence, offence is often the best defence, therefore this attack justified.
You could stand outside all night chanting "Nazi scum, off our streets", but I can't see that being near as helpful as a pair of doc martins stamping on some scumbag.
Marxaveli
14th November 2011, 03:47
Only good Nazi is a dead one.
AntifaArnhem
14th November 2011, 07:25
KommounistisGR
I was pretty much done with you and your kind when the PAME and KKE felt it would be their jobs to stop a social uprising in the streets of Athens some time ago. If you collaborate with the system, you are the system! So please stop talking about you revolutionairy party because it simply doesn't excists, if you try to reach your goals through the parlementaire way that's okay but then stop calling yourself 'revolutionairy' or even 'communist' when you're actually social democrats!
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