Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan

[Engel]

Just seems like another bourgeois trying to shift the brunt of the economic burden on to the working class. Full story here http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/9-9-9-plan-would-almost-double-taxes-on-middle-class/ Your thoughts comrades?

:hammersickle: WORKERS OF THE WORLD-UNITE! :hammersickle:

[Ocean Seal]

So basically I have to pay for all of my social services, and pay more in taxes. Excellent, I think that every night you should put a tiger under my bed, because you know what life is too easy. I need the excitement of potential bankruptcy.

[Dimmu]

So basically I have to pay for all of my social services, and pay more in taxes. Excellent, I think that every night you should put a tiger under my bed, because you know what life is too easy. I need the excitement of potential bankruptcy.

Did you not hear the Cain when he said that if you are not rich and jobless then its only your faulth! :laugh:

[PC LOAD LETTER]

What? Are you serious?

What the hell is wrong with this jackass.

"If you're poor or unemployed it's your fault."
"Homosexuality is a choice."
"Occupy Wall Street is a ploy by the Obama campaign to distract from his failings."

Not verbatim, but paraphrased. This guy is nuts.

[Comrade_Stalin]

Did you not hear the Cain when he said that if you are not rich and jobless then its only your faulth! :laugh:

Yes, I heard that one too, and it just point out that those who are rich don't work (or have jobs for that matter). You can see that by that fact that Cain point out that being rich and have a job as two separate groups. Meaning that you if you have a job, you are not rich, and if you are rich, you don't have a job.

To me it the Pot calling the Kettle black, as many of these rich people tell us to get a job, while they don't have one themselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black

[socialistjustin]

His plan also eliminates payroll taxes which fund Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Finding new ways to abolish social programs for the muthafucking win!


Yes, that was sarcasm.

[GatesofLenin]

9% corporate tax, that's lower than Ireland and Zimbabwe. So he plans to make the USA the next rich tax haven. He's an idiot!

[molotovcocktail]

"Occupy Wall Street is a ploy by the Obama campaign to distract from his failings."

Are this guy serious? Most Wall Street occupants are protesting against Obama.

[Zealot]

Why do Americans support idiots like this? Sad

[Iraultzaile Ezkerreko]

Everyday my faith in humanity is stretched to its limit. It's a good thing I have to sleep at night, otherwise it wouldn't have any time to reset.

[انتفاضة الأقصى‎]

The attempts to shift the blame of the economic jihad on the backs of the working class people of the world is one of the most offensive crimes imaginable being done in this rhetoric war against the working class by the American and European imperialist class in the world. The working class toils endlessly to build the future that the imperialist bourgeois takes for granted they make sure that production happens, that they get their required productions and ensure that society runs in the way that the imperialist bourgeois expects it to. Without the toil of the working class there would be no parasitic bourgeois exploiting the working class. During these times of economic jihad this should be remembered and the working class should be honored to make moves against those that don't care for them and exploit them. Shame on Herman Cain for his offensive comments to the toiling people of the world.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Are this guy serious? Most Wall Street occupants are protesting against Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPiSzCDChX4

Yep, see his delusions for yourself.

[Rocky Rococo]

The only 999 that matters;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMlpqOsc2BU&feature=related

[Delenda Carthago]

I love politicians like this. They put so much fuel on our fire, that we should thank him for it. The point is to take advantage of it though. If tou let it slide, he wins. But if you attack him(through bloging, leaflets, etc)on that, we win.

[Lucretia]

Like Obama's "jobs bill," it's a campaign gimmick, ladies and gentlemen. With no chance of ever becoming law.

[Grenzer]

I wouldn't pay too much attention to Cain. He's just desperate for attention at this point, trying to distance himself from the pack so to speak. For us communists, this is irrelevant. They are all imperialistic, bourgeois scum seeking to put a boot down on the rest of the world and the working class. It doesn't matter whether they're Republican, Democrat, Green Party or whatever, it's all going to be the same.

[∞]

On a more positive note. Voices for OWS are ensuring that they will never co-opt with the democrats.

[GatesofLenin]

On a more positive note. Voices for OWS are ensuring that they will never co-opt with the democrats.

Good, we need better choices during elections than Republicans (right) and Democrat (centre-right). :thumbup:

[Bardo]

Here's an idea:

-Let's drastically cut income taxes for the wealthy, and raise them for the lowest class.
-Let's cut corporate tax in half
-Let's eliminate capital gains tax
-Let's implement a 9% national sales tax and actually encourage consumers to consume less while cutting the spending power of the working class even more.

Presto, more revenue and more jobs! :headexplodes:

Anyone who's taken 9th grade economics should be able to see through the bullshit.

[GatesofLenin]

Love this weeks Realtime with Bill Maher, they called Herman Cain Hitler due to his "9-9-9" as "Nein-Nein-Nein". :D

[MattShizzle]

Yeah, it's a terrible idea. A way to drive the middle class into poverty and the poor into the ground. And of course to make the rich even richer.

[Triple A]

As the very name says, its a plan against the 99.9%.
Its obvious.

[Revy]

I doubt the Republican Party is going to nominate a pizza CEO with no elected office experience. All of the Presidential candidates of both parties for the past 50 years have either been a Senator, Governor, or former Vice President.

[Philosopher Jay]

The fascists in the United States have found someone that makes Sarah Palin look sane by comparison.

[GatesofLenin]

I doubt the Republican Party is going to nominate a pizza CEO with no elected office experience. All of the Presidential candidates of both parties for the past 50 years have either been a Senator, Governor, or former Vice President.

You forgot one more point: Republicans love the color white ...

[Lobotomy]

Is the president even constitutionally powerful enough to enact such drastic changes? :confused:

[Impulse97]

Is the president even constitutionally powerful enough to enact such drastic changes? :confused:


Not yet, but the Bush/Obama presidency seems to have us headed in that direction.

[Bardo]

Is the president even constitutionally powerful enough to enact such drastic changes? :confused:

It's a pipe dream I think. Even Michele Bachmann and Rad Paul have stated that they oppose the plan. He would need a willing house and senate, and he's not going to get it, even from the Tea Party.

[Bronco]

That "if you don't have a job it's your own fault" statement has just received rapturous applause at the Republican Debate after he just repeated it, God knows why I'm watching

[Revy]

Hilarious.:laugh:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Herman_Cain:_SimCity_rumor_%27a_lie%27



U.S. (http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/U.S.) presidential candidate Herman Cain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain) denied a suggestion from Huffington Post (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Huffington_Post) reporter Amanda Terkel that his 9-9-9 tax plan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9-9-9_plan) derived from Maxis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxis)' 2003 computer game SimCity 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimCity_4). During an interview that aired on The Rachel Maddow Show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rachel_Maddow_Show_%28TV_series%29) Friday, Cain bluntly characterized the suggestion as "a lie".


Cain, the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfather%27s_Pizza), has risen to first place in some polls for the Republican Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29)'s presidential nomination. His campaign features the 9-9-9 plan, which calls for the implementation of a 9 percent national sales tax, and a shift of the personal and corporate income tax rates to 9 percent.


Terkel compared Cain's plan to that of the default setting on SimCity 4, which institutes a 9 percent rate for commercial, industrial and residential taxes. She contacted both Maxis and Rich Lowrie, a Wells Fargo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wells_Fargo) employee credited with helping Cain formulate the plan. Though Lowrie did not respond, Maxis producer Kip Katsarelis commented:
We encourage politicians to continue to look to innovative games like SimCity for inspiration for social and economic change. While we at Maxis and Electronic Arts do not endorse any political candidates or their platforms, it’s interesting to see GOP candidate Herman Cain propose a simplified tax system like one we designed for the video game SimCity 4
Cain maintains that the plan is original. When probed on the issue, he remarked "that's the difference when you become one or two in the polls. People make up stuff."


Cain received similar attention in August after closing a GOP debate with a quote from the theme song for Pokemon: The Movie 2000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon:_The_Movie_2000), which he referenced to an unnamed poet. It was later reported that Cain had quoted the song on previous occasions.

[Lobotomy]

This shit has been pissing me off the last couple of days. I thought conservatives were all about lowering taxes on most citizens. 9-9-9 would raise taxes on 84% of the people! If anything, the popularity of this 9-9-9 idea just proves how far into the realm of doublethink the Republicans have driven their supporters. And check this out:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_296w//WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/ezra-klein/StandingArt/Average-tax-change-from-9-9-9-plan-10-18-2011-OPT.jpg?uuid=QRY0DvpcEeCAMtfdh-994g

[Robocommie]

Holy shiiit