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Seth
12th October 2011, 03:33
Remember Joe from the 2008 elections? Well, he's back:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/joe-the-plumber-may-be-joe-the-candidate/?partner=rss&emc=rss


Joe the Plumber May Be Joe the Candidate

By ASHLEY SOUTHALL (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/author/ashley-southall/)http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/10/us/politics/10caucus-joe-plumber/10caucus-joe-plumber-blog480.jpgStephen Crowley/The New York TimesSamuel J. Wurzelbacher, known as Joe the Plumber, left, appeared at a campaign rally for Senator John McCain during the 2008 presidential campaign in Mentor, Ohio.
Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber from the 2008 presidential campaign (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/joe-in-the-spotlight/), has filed papers to run for a House seat in northern Ohio.
Mr. Wurzelbacher filed papers on Friday to run as a Republican in Ohios Ninth Congressional District, a seat altered in redistricting that will pit two longtime Democratic lawmakers Dennis Kucinich and Marcia Kaptur against each other in the Democratic primary. For now, he is the lone Republican in the race.
Roman Schroeder, a consultant to Mr. Wurzelbacher, said that the campaign was in an exploratory phase and that Mr. Wurzelbacher would make a final decision on Oct. 25.
People are looking for jobs, and theres a certain amount of desperation in this part of the country, Mr. Schroeder said in a phone interview from Mr. Wurzelbachers home. Joe thinks he can do a better job and wants to know if other people feel the same way.
Mr. Wurzelbacher, a suburban father, was anointed the proxy for the middle class during the 2008 presidential campaign after an encounter with the Democratic nominee, Barack Obama, in which he asked him whether his tax policy would hurt Mr. Wurzelbachers plumbing business.
Mr. Obamas answer was, essentially, maybe. He told Mr. Wurzelbacher that he wanted to spread the wealth.
The moment became a flash point in the debate over tax policy in the 2008 campaign. Mr. Obamas Republican opponent, Senator John McCain of Arizona, seized on the encounter as proof that Mr. Obamas tax plan would be damaging to the middle class. Mr. Wurzelbacher said he was concerned that Mr. Obamas plan bordered on socialism and later appeared on the campaign trail with Mr. McCain and his running mate, former Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.
His celebrity was quickly tainted by revelations that he was not a licensed plumber and owed back taxes. Analysts said the premise of his tax question was flawed. Still, activists tried unsuccessfully to recruit him to run against Ms. Kaptur in 2010. Though he passed on the run, Mr. Wurzelbacher reincarnated himself as Joe the Author and Joe the Motivational Speaker. He has also appeared on the presidential campaign trail this year with Herman Cain.
Mr. Schroeder said the Wurzelbacher campaign would use his Joe the Plumbers Twitter account, @JoeWurzelbacher. He also has a Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/TheRealJoethePlumber)

NoOneIsIllegal
12th October 2011, 05:47
Kucinich will crush him. He has nothing to offer really bad slogans about taking 'murica back, hurr hurr hurr. don't tax me, bro!

I hate how these people who had their 15 minutes of fame (for what, one famous sentence or two?) think they should make a living out of politics.

Sendo
12th October 2011, 06:16
Kucinich will crush him. He has nothing to offer really bad slogans about taking 'murica back, hurr hurr hurr. don't tax me, bro!

I hate how these people who had their 15 minutes of fame (for what, one famous sentence or two?) think they should make a living out of politics.

Kucinich's days with the Dems are numbered. If they think they can get an election winner with another candidate he's gone. It could be the best thing. He wouldn't have to repress his rants every November.

Then again, he'd have even less of a platform from which to speak. As it stands he's got Democracy Now! and C-Span 2 at 11:00 AM playing congressional debates in a room with only five people because American democracy is so bankrupt that every bill is decided in a backroom deal.

Look at McKinney. She got the boot because she got uppity about disenfranchisement, and wouldn't shut up when Gore asked her to. The Dems care far more for the status quo than short-term gains. They let Bush steal two elections (more?) with Diebold and disenfranchisement. The other alternative would be too democratic (pardon the pun), like citizen management of elections, direct elections, election day made a federal holiday, etc.

If Kucinich is to survive the primaries (remember he has to re-apply for his job every two years!) it has to be on his own.

Die Rote Fahne
12th October 2011, 14:17
Kucinich should go the route of Sanders and just be an independent, or start a social democratic party.

A Marxist Historian
12th October 2011, 17:08
Kucinich should go the route of Sanders and just be an independent, or start a social democratic party.

He isn't a social democrat. Back when he was mayor of Cleveland I think it was, he was no better than any other union-busting white racist local pol, except in his rhetoric.

If the Dems ace him out, quite possibly, he should join the Greens, where he can be a left-talking union busting white racist like any other Green, except of course for the idiotic socialist infiltrators.

In Germany, where the Greens have been a big success and they've dropped the phony left rhetoric, you see the Greens in action.

-M.H.-

KurtFF8
12th October 2011, 18:57
Hmm do you have any sources or reasons to call Kucinich a racist, A Marxist Historian?

NoOneIsIllegal
13th October 2011, 00:14
^ Interested to hear as well. I'm not supportive of liberals, but I've never seen Kucinich say anything racist. If you're going to slander him, at least do it on his liberal politics, rather than making stuff up.

eyeheartlenin
13th October 2011, 03:35
Kucinich once described his role as drawing leftists (back) into the Democratic Party, so Kucinich is the antiwar face/figleaf of the thoroughly pro-war Democrats.

What Marxist Historian says about the Greens is right on target. IIRC, the German Foreign Minister during NATO's war on Serbia was from the Green Party and played a big role in getting Germany involved. That war was such an obscenity; the Serbs, who had helped downed US aviators survive during World War 2, got bombed by German planes in NATO's war. NATO also bombed the Serb broadcasting center, while there were journalists inside, and NATO bombed the Chinese Embassy, in a Belgrade neighborhood.

KurtFF8
13th October 2011, 17:06
Was Kucinich responsible for the German Greens actions in the 90s? :confused: