Leftish vs Rightish propaganda

[Desert Fox]

Well I think leftish propaganda is always far better than rightish propaganda, due it is quit amusing and is less serious. But here you can post both leftish as rightish propaganda and say wich you find the best. Ok, I shall start ;)

EDIT: Try to find the best propaganda possible, not all rightish propaganda is bad (you can think its a bad ideology but have to admit the propaganda is sometimes good)

http://www.stickybuffalo.com/randomimages/communism.jpg

http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/library/images/humour/america_world.gif

[Bianconero]

I don't see how the first picture you posted is bad capitalist propaganda. Actually, that handsome young chap in the background looks quite friendly to me.

[Soviet power supreme]

Here a good leftist propaganda.
http://www.funet.fi/pub/culture/russian/html_pages/images/kapitalisty1.jpg
and some anti-zionist

http://www.bloodandhonour.net/finland/piirrokset/fiteisrael.gif

[Pete]

SPS, there is a difference between Anti-Zionist and Anti-Semitism.

[Soviet power supreme]

Right.im gonna change it.

[Xvall]

C'mon Fox. We both know that ours is better!

[Soviet power supreme]

Well this is the most beautiful propaganda poster i have ever seen.
http://www.funet.fi/pub/culture/russian/html_pages/images/mir.jpg

[Exploited Class]

I like this one, it says, "Homosexuals go take over france and kill them with kindness."

http://www.sdcoe.k12.ca.us/score/wwivm/BroadwayLyric.jpg

This one is good also, "The craziest of the canines, the pit bull, loves america."
http://www.nyx.net/~mbur/WWIPitWithFlag.jpg

This was made when it was okay to be insane and hear voices tell you to do bad things, because the voices were just the invisible hitler talking, and you weren't insane, well you weren't till after WWII.
http://www.johndclare.net/images/wwii4.takethem.jpg

This one makes no godamn sense, they are trying to get you to feel guilty by saying, "Are you the absent one", but the one I see being absent is the Rich Guy by not being in line with all the rest of the troops there. "Who's absent? The rich guy is absent and look he is even showing off 10 feet from the troops that are going to die. "Lookie me, I am all rich and fat and not going to die, hahahaha bet you guys wish you were rich and fat. Dead men walking. Tell me how the mustard gas went for you boys."

http://hsc.csu.edu.au/modern_history/core_study/ww1/posters/jbull.gif

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 2 2003, 10:50 PM
C'mon Fox. We both know that ours is better!
Lol, I didn't see that one yet but I have to agree it is far better. And if I have to believe the rightish version than I have been communist from the day I was 12 :P

[Xvall]

Talk about it. And SPS, I can't see the image. But I don't think I want to, considering it's from Blood and Honour.

[Funky Monk]

Are we taking into account the intended audience of the propaganda?



Most leftish propaganda we see is desinged by small groups to appeal to the intellectuals.
The right wing propaganda we see here is generally produced by a ruling power to appeal to the less intelligent masses and thus contains a much more obvious and patriotic emotional message.

[Xvall]

You mean right-wing propoganda is more like this?

[Soviet power supreme]

Well it says:Join the U.S army and fight for Israel.And there is picture of a fat jew commanding a us soldier.

[Hawker]

Here's some good ones:

http://www.dubyasworld.com/dubya-loves-free-speech.jpg

http://www.dubyasworld.com/obedience.jpg

[CubanFox]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 5 2003, 07:27 AM
You mean right-wing propoganda is more like this?
Irak is the French spelling.

Eeevil! EEEVIL!

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

Originally posted by Funky [email protected] 4 2003, 08:27 PM
Are we taking into account the intended audience of the propaganda?



Most leftish propaganda we see is desinged by small groups to appeal to the intellectuals.
The right wing propaganda we see here is generally produced by a ruling power to appeal to the less intelligent masses and thus contains a much more obvious and patriotic emotional message.
I disagree. I dont think you can generalise to that extent. I meen look at all those soviet union posters above, they are produced by a ruling power, designed to give a patriotic and in many cases emotional messege.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by El Marko+Nov 5 2003, 12:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (El Marko @ Nov 5 2003, 12:59 PM)
Funky [email protected] 4 2003, 08:27 PM
Are we taking into account the intended audience of the propaganda?



Most leftish propaganda we see is desinged by small groups to appeal to the intellectuals.
The right wing propaganda we see here is generally produced by a ruling power to appeal to the less intelligent masses and thus contains a much more obvious and patriotic emotional message.
I disagree. I dont think you can generalise to that extent. I meen look at all those soviet union posters above, they are produced by a ruling power, designed to give a patriotic and in many cases emotional messege. [/b]
True, but those soviet posters are not that recent and I think FM means the leftish propaganda used now. Since in only a few countries the leftish side is the ruling side.

[UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics]

well perhaps so, but thats only due to circumstances, its nothing to do with the actual nature of the propaganda and how it works.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by El [email protected] 5 2003, 08:28 PM
well perhaps so, but thats only due to circumstances, its nothing to do with the actual nature of the propaganda and how it works.
True, but it only proves that propaganda of the dominant force is really patriotic due the fact they have everything to gain if the people are pro their own country and pro their own goverment ;)

[Funky Monk]

I still think Audience is the important factor. All these examples of propaganda have been carefully targeted at specific groups in society.
You cant say some are worse than others just because you dont fall into or can empathise with teh target audience.

[Xvall]

Much to the fear of Exploited Class, the ghost of Hitler is on the move once again. In this poster, Americans are warned to make sure that all of the seats in their car are taken by other passesngers or destroyed. If not, hitler may hitch-hike with you on the way home:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_persuasion/use_it_up/images_html/images/ride_with_hitler.jpg

[Funky Monk]

Ironic really, considering the American government&#39;s recruitment of Nazi scientists, and their rearming of the German army in Korea, you could almost say they were riding with the Nazis....

[Al Creed]

http://cti.itc.virginia.edu/~hius202/images/lecture08/areyouhundredpercent1.jpg

God Bless America <_<

[Xvall]

That emoticon seems like terrorist-material to me, Raven.

[Al Creed]

RUT ROH&#33;&#33;

I guess I should get ready, when CSIS comes and gets me&#33;

(OH, and off the record, Call me AL;))

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 6 2003, 09:16 PM
Much to the fear of Exploited Class, the ghost of Hitler is on the move once again. In this poster, Americans are waned to make sure that all of the seats in their car are taken by other passesngers or destroyed. If not, hitler may hitch-hike with you on the way home:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/powers_of_persuasion/use_it_up/images_html/images/ride_with_hitler.jpg
LOL, this one is great. I wonder where they get their ideas. This thread is full of original propaganda :D

[Love and Respect]

I dont know if this is really leftist vs. rightist propaganda but here goes:

[Love and Respect]

I have a bunch of anti republican, bush, and just anti-U.S. policies in genreal but here is one of my favorites. I dont want to clutter the board with these but if anyone wants i can post more :D

[Kapitan Andrey]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Very-very nice&#33;

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 10:45 PM
SPS, there is a difference between Anti-Zionist and Anti-Semitism.
Actualy there is; anti-semitism is opposition to jews and anti-zionist is opposition to isreal.

[Desert Fox]

Good job Love & Respect, you contributed alot to this topic. And they are really good propaganda :P

[Love and Respect]

I will limit myself to just two more posts on this topic (maybe). Here is something one of my fellow students sent me. I hope some enjoy.

[Love and Respect]

OK this one is from an anti-bush site although I dont know if it has much value, but it is somewhat comical. It brings back memories for me though, since I remember falling to the floor laughing when I heard the speech in which he said this now famous word. :P

[Hampton]

ihtyv:

[Tiki Man]

:D The Su-47/S-37

[Kapitan Andrey]

The last image is idiotism&#33;
Tiki Man...wtf are you doing, moron&#33;? This isn&#39;t propaganda&#33;

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Kapitan [email protected] 12 2003, 11:14 AM
The last image is idiotism&#33;
Tiki Man...wtf are you doing, moron&#33;? This isn&#39;t propaganda&#33;
That is propaganda alright, it proves that russian crafts are better than western ones :P

[Intifada]

this is true...

[Intifada]

didnt come out very well.

sorry

[Love and Respect]

Here is a pic of a sticker. There are numerous different variations, but this one is one of the better ones.

[Kapitan Andrey]

Desert Fox...oh&#33; Was that flamming plane (S-37) american aircraft&#33;?
...but even if it&#39;s so...it isn&#39;t propaganda.

ihatebush...don&#39;t worry&#33; That was great&#33; :)

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Kapitan [email protected] 14 2003, 02:10 PM
Desert Fox...oh&#33; Was that flamming plane (S-37) american aircraft&#33;?
...but even if it&#39;s so...it isn&#39;t propaganda.

ihatebush...don&#39;t worry&#33; That was great&#33; :)
Well it is really, since I suspect that the craft is american and that they want to show that foreign crafts can beat a imperialistic plane anyday ;)

[Exploited Class]

I made these myself

[Exploited Class]

And this one

[Exploited Class]

Okay

[Exploited Class]

Last but not least

[Desert Fox]

LOL, they are really good. You have talent, first your nice text in the post of PMI and now these pics. Good job :P

[Exploited Class]

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 16 2003, 06:51 AM
LOL, they are really good. You have talent, first your nice text in the post of PMI and now these pics. Good job :P
Hey thank you very much Desert Fox, but I don&#39;t know what you mean with First your nice Text in the post of PMI. What is PMI?

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Exploited Class+Nov 16 2003, 02:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Exploited Class @ Nov 16 2003, 02:55 PM)
Desert [email protected] 16 2003, 06:51 AM
LOL, they are really good. You have talent, first your nice text in the post of PMI and now these pics. Good job :P
Hey thank you very much Desert Fox, but I don&#39;t know what you mean with First your nice Text in the post of PMI. What is PMI? [/b]
Your reply to the thread of ProMyIdeals, his rant about being restricted <_<

[Kapitan Andrey]

....EC...not bad...

[Exploited Class]

Thanks Kapitan Andrey

PMI... gotcha. Okay I was trying to think what that meant. Photoshop Message Insertion, Pity Mountain Image, Pretty Mean Image... Couldn&#39;t figure it out.

A couple of other people looked at them and gave me some considerations on how to improve them which I plan to.

It is the message that is so hard to think of.

[Desert Fox]

http://www.myimgs.com/data/zyhic/Lenin.jpg

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by Tiki [email protected] 12 2003, 04:27 AM
:D The Su-47/S-37
Isn&#39;t that a F-22 which is shot down?

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Non-Sectarian Bastard&#33;+Nov 23 2003, 02:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Non-Sectarian Bastard&#33; @ Nov 23 2003, 02:03 AM)
Tiki [email protected] 12 2003, 04:27 AM
:D The Su-47/S-37
Isn&#39;t that a F-22 which is shot down? [/b]
Don&#39;t ask me anything about machinary. Weaponry is more my cup of herbal tea ;)

[Kapitan Andrey]

Desert Fox...I don&#39;t like it&#33;

The real "HE4l/lCTb"(last word) is lenin&#33; :angry:

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Kapitan [email protected] 24 2003, 10:31 AM
Desert Fox...I don&#39;t like it&#33;

The real "HE4l/lCTb"(last word) is lenin&#33; :angry:
What is wrong with Lenin ???

[Guest1]

well, depends where you stand on government control. leninism relies on a "benevolent dictatorship" to work for the interests of the people. but whether or not you think lenin fit the description, stalin to most people proves pretty conclusively why you can&#39;t rely on good will. one leader may be benevolent, but who&#39;s to say the next one will be?

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 26 2003, 07:06 AM
well, depends where you stand on government control. leninism relies on a "benevolent dictatorship" to work for the interests of the people. but whether or not you think lenin fit the description, stalin to most people proves pretty conclusively why you can&#39;t rely on good will. one leader may be benevolent, but who&#39;s to say the next one will be?
True, but Stalin got his power not really by the system that Lenin created. Stalin got his power from his wits and power. Lenin was a good leader in my perspective, from what I have seen and read about the man, I don&#39;t find him a bad person.

[Guest1]

that was my point, he might not have been a bad person, but in the absence of controls against government, the following leader was unrestrained to be as corrupt and as tyrannical as he wanted. we shouldn&#39;t just rely on leaders being good, we should make sure it doesn&#39;t matter if they are good. a leader should always be accountable and subject to expulsion if the need arises. I think the need was there when stalin came to power, don&#39;t you?

[Danish]

Perhaps Stalin should have signed a Social Contract...

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 27 2003, 04:11 AM
that was my point, he might not have been a bad person, but in the absence of controls against government, the following leader was unrestrained to be as corrupt and as tyrannical as he wanted. we shouldn&#39;t just rely on leaders being good, we should make sure it doesn&#39;t matter if they are good. a leader should always be accountable and subject to expulsion if the need arises. I think the need was there when stalin came to power, don&#39;t you?
Yes, but I think Stalin was no fool or madman like most people think about him. He was a clever guy and he wasn&#39;t that bad of leader too, he deserves credit for a golden age of Russia when he assumed control of the Soviet Union. Look what Russia is now today without the Soviet Union and without Stalin <_<