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Manic Impressive
11th October 2011, 02:35
I don't get it. Some people are like zomg that is so amazing but my reaction is just meh that's a pretty good drawing, must have taken some skill.

My appreciation for art stretches to whether it has any meaning like the popular artist of the moment Banksy but even then it's funny but doesn't really effect me in any way.

So why do you like art and am I missing out on something? I've always perceived art as something for the privileged classes maybe that's why.

Broletariat
11th October 2011, 02:36
Looks better than wallpaper/paint

Leftsolidarity
11th October 2011, 02:38
I've never been into art as in paintings on a piece of paper or anything. Most of the things people love I just think, "Wow that person was dedicated to do that. It would be cool if I had that talent."
I really find a lot of beauty in graffiti though. Maybe you just haven't found the art form that you like.

La Comédie Noire
11th October 2011, 02:40
I have Synesthesia so certain paintings or movies or books will have a "taste" to them that I like. But it also has to do with the way it makes me feel.

I don't know hard to explain.

Fun fact: the word "communism" reminds me of the taste of ice cream bars.

tfb
11th October 2011, 02:59
Have you ever liked a movie? Or a song? It's like that.

Manic Impressive
11th October 2011, 03:14
I have Synesthesia so certain paintings or movies or books will have a "taste" to them that I like. But it also has to do with the way it makes me feel.

I don't know hard to explain.

Fun fact: the word "communism" reminds me of the taste of ice cream bars.
That sounds really amazing I'm quite jealous. Any downsides to it? does anything remind you of bad tastes?

Manic Impressive
11th October 2011, 03:16
Have you ever liked a movie? Or a song? It's like that.
yeah of course, but I can make a connection to why I liked it, whereas with art I just feel nothing. Apart from admiration for the skill and patience it must have taken to create it.

I guess my question is better addressed as how can I feel something from art?

Leftsolidarity
11th October 2011, 03:21
yeah of course, but I can make a connection to why I liked it, whereas with art I just feel nothing. Apart from admiration for the skill and patience it must have taken to create it.

I guess my question is better addressed as how can I feel something from art?

It will either give you a feeling or it won't. I find graffiti beautiful because it immediately strikes me as a symbol of defiance and power of the oppressed. Then when it has a message to the graffiti it becomes all the more powerful to me.

It's like a sport too when you do it haha

tfb
11th October 2011, 03:26
Start out by learning something simple like "the rule of thirds": http://www.photo96.com/blog/?p=371

And then, whenever you see some piece of art, you can think: "Does this follow the rule of thirds?", and if it doesn't: "Would it look better if it did?", and if it does: "Would it look better if it didn't?"

Then, once you are thinking about art and deciding whether and why you like certain pieces of art, you can continue to look into aesthetic principles and stuff.

Manic Impressive
11th October 2011, 03:47
Start out by learning something simple like "the rule of thirds": http://www.photo96.com/blog/?p=371

And then, whenever you see some piece of art, you can think: "Does this follow the rule of thirds?", and if it doesn't: "Would it look better if it did?", and if it does: "Would it look better if it didn't?"

Then, once you are thinking about art and deciding whether and why you like certain pieces of art, you can continue to look into aesthetic principles and stuff.
Thanks a lot that's exactly the sort of stuff I need

Blackscare
11th October 2011, 04:03
"Art" is a lot of things, I think you're confusing it with just images.

Apoi_Viitor
11th October 2011, 04:22
http://www.abcgallery.com/C/chirico/chirico.html

La Comédie Noire
11th October 2011, 21:11
That sounds really amazing I'm quite jealous. Any downsides to it? does anything remind you of bad tastes?

Yeah, I taste burnt hamburgers whenever there is a depressing or ugly scene in a novel. The tastes resulting from Synesthesia usually result from early childhood and sure enough at least once a week during my childhood I had to brave my dad's well done hamburgers.

ericksolvi
17th October 2011, 04:33
I got an A in art class and I don't even like art. To be more precise I dislike people who call themselves artists, not because they call themselves that, but because they're horrid pretentious frauds who want to make a living producing nothing of real value (Just like entrepreneurs, who I also dislike). They play at having deep dark souls, but are more shallow then your average construction worker.

o well this is ok I guess
17th October 2011, 04:58
Fun fact: the word "communism" reminds me of the taste of ice cream bars. It's all about the free and equal distribution of ice cream bars.

Leonid Brozhnev
17th October 2011, 23:24
I've studied art most of my adult life, 99% of it make me go 'meh' unless it's technically skilled, eyecatching in someway or portrays a powerful message (particularly in political works)... then again sometime I totally bypass these principles. I generally find art irritating; if its not the bastardisation of fine art by the bourgeoisie who use it as a form of symbolic violence, its the overwhelming pretentiousness of its entirety that leaks like piss into pretty much every genre of visual art there is and probably beyond that. Artistic taste for myself is about subjectivity, if you like a piece you like it, if you don't you don't... there's no real explaining or teaching it, just enjoy what you enjoy.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/0/b/Vader_with_Parasol_by_limpfish.jpg

Sputnik_1
18th October 2011, 08:26
It's hard to explain, but if you're really into art it makes you happy, a bit like eating favorite food or listening to favorite band. I'm from an artistic environment myself, paint and stuff, but i wouldn't call that "privileged class" people. Nowadays artists mainly work in fast food to not starve to death. It's great to have passions in life, it makes life itself kinda suck less...

Sputnik_1
18th October 2011, 08:34
I got an A in art class and I don't even like art. To be more precise I dislike people who call themselves artists, not because they call themselves that, but because they're horrid pretentious frauds who want to make a living producing nothing of real value (Just like entrepreneurs, who I also dislike). They play at having deep dark souls, but are more shallow then your average construction worker.

lol. i call myself artist. so? I'm a lazy fuck? I'm a hard working person and work several jobs to earn at least a little money to somehow survive.
By artist I'd rather understand someone who in a creative way expresses something: his feeling, social discomfort, etc.
By the way, so you call someone who creates graphics for video games, graphic novels, cartoons, illustrations for books etc someone not productive? Cause you know, it's a very time-consuming work. And if you're trying to tell me that all those things would disappear in communist society then I'd rather die fighting during revolution, cause my life would become pretty empty without art.

Manic Impressive
18th October 2011, 08:38
I've studied art most of my adult life, 99% of it make me go 'meh' unless it's technically skilled, eyecatching in someway or portrays a powerful message (particularly in political works)... then again sometime I totally bypass these principles. I generally find art irritating; if its not the bastardisation of fine art by the bourgeoisie who use it as a form of symbolic violence, its the overwhelming pretentiousness of its entirety that leaks like piss into pretty much every genre of visual art there is and probably beyond that. Artistic taste for myself is about subjectivity, if you like a piece you like it, if you don't you don't... there's no real explaining or teaching it, just enjoy what you enjoy.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/0/b/Vader_with_Parasol_by_limpfish.jpg
Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. But I got to say I absolutely love that picture. It's actually making me think, my first impression was that Vader is portrayed as an almost protective figure, then I looked again and changed my mind. And why the fuck has he got an umbrella? :p
yeah that's excellent

SHORAS
18th October 2011, 08:42
Art is like well boring as a spectator in pretty much all forms I can think of. If you can interact with whatever it is in some way then it can be enjoyable but then does it/what you are doing cease to be 'art' fuck knows. Most art though is commodity though init. Apart of course from the art of doing something, as practical action or the process itself. Now those are probably where the real enjoyment is!

I seem to remember this being quite a good read on the subject...

http://libcom.org/library/closed-window-another-life

Hoipolloi Cassidy
18th October 2011, 11:39
I've studied art most of my adult life, 99% of it make me go 'meh' unless it's technically skilled, eyecatching in someway or portrays a powerful message (particularly in political works)... then again sometime I totally bypass these principles. I generally find art irritating; if its not the bastardisation of fine art by the bourgeoisie who use it as a form of symbolic violence, its the overwhelming pretentiousness of its entirety that leaks like piss into pretty much every genre of visual art there is and probably beyond that. Artistic taste for myself is about subjectivity, if you like a piece you like it, if you don't you don't... there's no real explaining or teaching it, just enjoy what you enjoy.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/0/b/Vader_with_Parasol_by_limpfish.jpg
Nice! Cindy Sherman for guys...

ZeroNowhere
18th October 2011, 12:03
Well, yes, I do find art a bit harder to appreciate, since it's both, at least at first sight, more external and less dynamic than things such as music, literature and poetry. There's also the fact that art is generally less accessible than the other forms; to actually keep it around takes quite a lot of money, while otherwise galleries and such aren't necessarily the best way to view art, especially when crowded and so on.

Still, I do like some art, mainly because I find it to have some level of dynamism, generally involving either depth or texture. For example, some paintings by Thomas Cole do very well at evoking a feeling of depth and distance, which make the painting a bit more dynamic to look at, in the sense that, though the painting is itself static, it's not static to look at. I'm quite fond of artists like Watteau, as well.

Os Cangaceiros
19th October 2011, 01:41
I don't really have an explanation for why I like the art I do. I tend to like classical pieces from antiquity, esp. ones related to Christian mythology (ie God, Satan, angels, Jesus etc.) I'm an atheist, but I've always been really impressed by the magnitude of certain works of art related to Christianity (and other religions, although my admiration of Islamic and eastern religions has more to do with architecture, not paintings. I hate ancient Chinese artwork, honestly lol).

I guess I just like seeing the philosophy of pure good vs pure evil portrayed on canvas. Interestingly enough I think that socialist realism is some of the most boring, putrid shit ever conceived by humans. :) Some Brutalist architecture is kinda cool, but it's amazing just how soul-crushingly awful "socialist realism" is.

pax et aequalitas
19th October 2011, 08:42
My favorite type of art is music :) Because you listen to it and you feel it right away. With other forms of art this can be the same though. I am not a big fan of abstract art, but some time ago I saw an abstract painting and I liked it simply because of the colors.

Then there is also the art from old times that I like not because of how it looks, but because it depicts times long gone, but that might be just me and my interest in history.

The Stalinator
27th October 2011, 01:22
I got an A in art class and I don't even like art. To be more precise I dislike people who call themselves artists, not because they call themselves that, but because they're horrid pretentious frauds who want to make a living producing nothing of real value (Just like entrepreneurs, who I also dislike). They play at having deep dark souls, but are more shallow then your average construction worker.

This is a pretty common attitude among people who don't understand art. Not everyone's mind is the same.

When your creativity acts up, you see things in funny ways. You see funny ways to interpret things, you see things that might be deeper to you than other people. Some people are lucky enough to have the talent to represent this in some way or another.

And then you just wanna share it with the world. Being able to live off what you love doing is just a bonus.

MotherCossack
8th December 2011, 23:35
Have you ever liked a movie? Or a song? It's like that.

yeah its a bit like that.... only more so... kind of. a good picture (art) makes you feel something. and more part of something. like part of a human consciousness.
or is that a heap of bourgeois bollocks....? Naa. dont think so....
we really shouldnt let the elite and the ruling arses hijack what has been ours since we lived in caves and hunted mammoths in nothing but a fur thong/jock strap.
i am no way a spoilt ,privileged, indulged ponce, but i demand the right to see art and like it and hate it and talk about it and not feel like a jumped up scab for doing so.
and for that matter, the right to have a go myself, if i feel like it.

Fawkes
9th December 2011, 20:39
When viewing an artwork, try to not think about "how", but "why". That mindset facilitates a more communicative experience. It allows for a conceptual analysis rather than a strictly formal one, which I find far more fulfilling.