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SidBh
11th October 2011, 02:25
I found a group on Second Life called Blue commies. What exactly is Blue Communism? The info said they were against the Red Commies.
Manic Impressive
11th October 2011, 02:28
probably a group who split from the red communists in game. AFAIK there is no such thing as blue communists
Lenina Rosenweg
11th October 2011, 02:36
I think it may be a far right/libertarian idea of commies who want to sneak collectivism in though the back door, the do-gooder liberals who wanted peaceful co-existence with the Russians even though they denied the sacraments, ate babies, and spit on every decent value which right thinking Muricans have died face down in the mud for. Something like that anyway.
The only reference to this I found here. This has to be the most confused blog I've ever seen and its hysterically funny.
http://deconstructingleftism.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/one-communist-two-communist-red-communist-blue-communist/
Warning, its racist and disgusting. Just noticed that.
Tablo
11th October 2011, 02:43
Perhaps it is an obscure term used for euro-communism?
tfb
11th October 2011, 03:01
Communists who are depressed about how long the revolution's taking.
#FF0000
11th October 2011, 03:03
just sad little communists :(
Red Commissar
11th October 2011, 03:21
Sounds like the Smurfs to me ;)
Spets
11th October 2011, 03:39
Perhaps it is an obscure term used for euro-communism?
Hipster communism? :confused:
Yuppie Grinder
11th October 2011, 04:26
Smurfs, dude.
Karl Marx = Papa Smurf. Think about it. They even have similar beards.
Red Rabbit
11th October 2011, 04:29
Definitely Smurfs.
hatzel
11th October 2011, 19:33
You know this could be a suitable thread in which to discuss hyperreality, considering a) we've been asked for details on a political tendency based on its presence in a computer game; and b) people in said computer game are actually engaging in in-game political activity...
Lenina Rosenweg
11th October 2011, 19:43
@Sidbh The next time you're on Second Life, could you ask the Blue Communists who they are and what they want? The answer should be interesting.
The name could be from Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars, Blue Mars, Green Mars series. Robinson is a Marxist. The Blue Commies could also be blue from oxygen deprivation created by too much time in an unventilated internet cafe somewhere. I'd be blue to if I spent all day in front of an LCD screen.
My adventures on Second Life ended when I drowned in the water surrounding Orientation Island. My name there was similar to my user name here, "Lenina Rosenweig". It didn't get a good reaction from people.
Maybe its different now but a few years ago SL was all clubs with nobody in them, boutiques with nothing in it, and a handful of noobies who were just as awkward with their avatar as I was.I actually bhad a "date" with someone in SL. Fun but it wierded me out a bit.
MustCrushCapitalism
11th October 2011, 20:20
Smurfs, dude.
Karl Marx = Papa Smurf. Think about it. They even have similar beards.
The Smurfs were definitely some form of left wing. :p
DarkPast
11th October 2011, 21:10
The Smurfs were definitely some form of left wing. :p
Obligatory:
Are the Smurfs Closet Communists?
By Kristen M. Sonntag, Esq.
It seems that these days Saturday morning cartoonists are taking too many artistic liberties by creating odd "realities" for children to watch. Children see what happens in cartoons and then model the carefree, imaginative games they play at recess on the behavior of cartoon characters. Early morning children's television serves up such visual delights as the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. And who could forget the always irreverent Biker Mice From Mars? Do we actually expect children to digest such desensitizing folly? What happened to the days of yore, when the Brothers Warner informed the country that "hunting wabbits" was the chief concern of the day? And what about the Hal Roach Studio's presentation of a lovable loose woman (the one and only Betty Boop of course,) who sought only happiness with the help of her little pet dog? These works remain a delight today, yet, it must be noted, whether a current 'toon or an classic, only rarely does a cartoon attempt to convey any sort of serious political message or ideological influence to its' spectator. With the exception of the occasional antifascist message in cartoons from the 1940s where Hitler, Hirohito, or Mussolini made the occasional "cameo" guest appearance, political themes in 'toons are few and far between. Or, that was the sad case until the late 1970's.
For, in those heady days a bold Belgian cartoonist by the name of Pierre Culliford first concocted some small blue creatures standing three apples high, which he called Smurfs. After the cartoon-industrial complex known as Hanna-Barbera got a hold of the rights to The Smurfs they took it upon themselves to make them an American classic, and by the early 1980's thousands of disillusioned children like myself tuned in every Saturday morning to catch their Smurfy antics. The Smurfs evolved into a phenomenon of sorts. We all sang the catchy "La la la la la la..." theme song, and many of us had Smurf paraphernalia.
I myself am guilty of having owned a complete set of Smurf drinking glasses in kindergarten, which I acquired at Pizza Hut for a mere 99 cents. We all knew their names; Papa Smurf, Handy Smurf, and Painter Smurf were most often seen, and all the girls loved Smurfette. The Smurfs were also a refreshing break from the cartoons of the 1970's. Fat Albert and Speed Racer were passé, and Scooby Doo (another Hanna-Barbera creation) had long outlived its usefulness as a tool of totalitarian social control. The Smurfs were the dawn of a new era. The Smurfs were to childhood dreams as the Beatles were to puberty. The Smurfs presented moral lessons in a facile, repetitive manner, making it comprehensible to all children with normal cranial capacity. The Smurfs were as American as apple pie. Or were they?
Upon immediate reflection, who could find any imperfections in the colony of a hundred or so blue elves? They were never violent, they never swore, and to the best of my knowledge there was never any nudity in the Smurf village. Children and parents alike were lulled into complacency by this seeming Smurf-topia, only to be blinded to a harsher reality. The Smurfs were communists. "Communists?!", you say. It's hard to believe, and trust me, it was hard for me to accept, as all of my most cherished childhood fantasies were smashed to bits. It was only quite recently, whilst I was engaged in a heated discussion about the wide variety of devious strategies Scooby Doo employs to teach children the fine art of bribery (a lesson for another day,) that I flashed back to the days when cartoons were actually more important to me than sex, and I remembered my beloved Smurfs. Once I began to ponder upon the behaviors of the Smurfs I was forced to realize the truth and the whole "Commie Smurf" theory, as I like to call it, spiralled out of control quite naturally from there.
Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto is an excellent source of supporting evidence for my "Commie Smurf" theory, although Das Kapital remains a far more entertaining bathroom book. Now, I know it can be difficult to differentiate between the philosophies of communism and socialism, for they often go hand in hand. However, we must take care not to confuse the Smurfs with the wretched victims of Stalinism, or a lumpen-proletariat attempting to overthrow the bourgeoisie through class warfare, and please perish the thought of the sickle and hammer as a Smurf icon. Rather, think of communism as a way of life, a social arrangement, if you will. Let's begin with the word "communist." What epistemological root word stands out? "Commune." The Smurfs live together in a small communal village, occasionally retiring to their mushroom huts; no Smurf ever leaves, and no new ones ever arrive. The Smurf village is an independent city-state of sorts, and every citizen is fiercely devoted to preserving the harmony of the entire community. In the Manifesto, Marx says, "In this sense the theory of the Communists may be summed up in a simple sentence: Abolition of private property." Well, all Smurf lands and territories belonged to all of the Smurfs, and there was no way in Hell that any single Smurf could even think of getting away with claiming a plot of land for himself or his own personal benefit or profit.
Land wasn't all the Smufrs shared. Food and provisions were stored in the communal mushroom-shaped huts and were distributed in equal portions to each and every Smurf throughout the year. Farmer Smurf didn't sell his crops to individual Smurfs; it was understood that whatever he grew was for everyone, not for the profit of a single individual Smurf. Each Smurf worked for the common good, another principle of Marx's: Baker Smurf was the universal chef, feeding hungry Smurf mouths, Handy Smurf was there for whoever needed a shelf built or screw tightened, etc.
Individual Smurf occupations are also an important indication that the Smurfs were indeed communists. Whatever their position in the village, be it Painter or Baker, they were allowed only that position and having multiple functions in society was completely out of the question. One episode depicted the Smurfs switching jobs. Vanity Smurf tried to paint, Poet Smurf tried to build, etc. Of course hilarity ensued, but the results were absolutely disastrous for the Smurfs. The moral of that episode was "Stick to what you do best" or to put it in more communistic terms, do the job you have been assigned and don't ask any questions. Another episode depicted the arrival of a new Smurf (Out-of-town Smurf?,) but he was promptly ousted because he had nothing of value to contribute to the common good of the village.
Now, with these incisive revelations in mind, remove yourself from the "Smurf-centric" mindset, and ponder Gargamel for a moment. Gargamel, that bitter, cranky, constipated old sorcerer who lived in the castle overlooking the Smurf village, was their archenemy. But who would be the most terrifying enemy of a village of elfin blue communists? Why a greedy capitalist, of course! Gargamel's main plan for the Smurfs was to capture them and turn them into gold. He sought only personal wealth and prosperity, the primary goal of all capitalists. He was completely indifferent to the ethical consequences of his actions, which would almost certainly result in the complete and utter destruction of the unity of the Smurf social order. Gargamel was greedy and egocentric, creating a dramatic juxtaposition to the Smurfs, who shared and were concerned with the welfare of all their brethren.
Rejection of the intelligentsia is yet another strategy for communist revolution suggested by Marx and effectively employed by the Smurf community. Brainy Smurf was the "square" Smurf, always with his blue nose buried in a book, always spouting off some confounding scientific mumbo-jumbo (note an eerie similarity to the Professor on Gilligan's Island.) Since communism stresses unity through equality, anyone with arcane knowledge of matters which are beyond the scope of comprehension of the village idiot, must be classified as a dissident with the capability to disrupt the common good of the entire social order.
Who knew that the Smurfs, those adorable blue creatures we once held so near and dear to our hearts, could actually be communists? It is a shocking truth, for if The Smurfs can no longer be considered innocent entertainment, then what can? We, the children of the future, have allowed ourselves to be brainwashed by Hanna-Barbera, innocently sitting back and being taken in by The Smurfs theme song. I hate to sully your experience of something as pure and good, dare I say as downright delightful as The Smurfs, but it is time that the wool be pulled from our eyes. May the youth who watched The Smurfs adoringly yesterday stand strong today, and let us break down the barriers that separate cartoonists from the common man. Let us breathe the air a little deeper now that we have broken the shackles binding us to the false goodness of television. Let us laugh and be free, like the Smurfs we once knew. Be gone, politics and hidden meanings. Let our children, and our children's children learn of our foolish trust in television, and allow them to learn political philosophy from something, anything, other than cartoons.
My point (and there is one) is this: Perhaps some day media manipulation of politics and taste will end, and when that day comes people will be forced to develop their own likes, dislikes, wishes, dreams, political beliefs, and ideologies without media interference. I'm not saying that The Smurfs turned my generation into communists. What I mean is simply this: the media are a powerful industry, and virtually anything can be subliminally planted into anyone's mind, particularly the impressionable minds of young children. There is no doubt in my mind that The Smurfs undeniably championed communist ideals, and in publishing this essay, it is my hope that I may enlighten a few more people to this important topic of rare consequence, and may perhaps foster greater understanding of The Smurfs evil ideology world wide.
ZeroNowhere
12th October 2011, 00:06
Droning a drowsy syncopated tune,
Rocking back and forth to a mellow croon,
I heard a Commie play.
Down on Lenox Avenue the other night
By the pale dull pallor of an old red flag
He did a lazy sway...
He did a lazy sway...
To the tune o' those Weary Blues.
With his Che-tattooed hands on each ivory key
He made that poor piano moan with melody.
O Blues!
Swaying to and fro on his rickety stool
He played that sad raggy tune like a musical fool
Or a Trotskyist.
Sweet Blues!
Coming from a commie's soul.
O Blues!
In a high strung voice with a melancholy tune
I heard that Commie sing, that old piano moan -
"This is the final struggle
Let us group together, and tomorrow,
The Internationale
Will be the human race."
Thump, thump, thump, went his foot on the floor
(And something more)
He played a few chords then he sang some more.
Joseph S.
12th October 2011, 00:27
Smurfs, dude.
Karl Marx = Papa Smurf. Think about it. They even have similar beards.
I alway's thogth that the smurfs were racist, for instance Gaggamel looks alot like the 1930 German stereotype of jew's.
Smurfin is blond and not to mention al the white hoods and the leader wearing a red one just like in the clan.
Some french writer Antoine Buéno recently wrote a book about it.
ZeroNowhere
12th October 2011, 01:51
Some french writer Antoine Buéno recently wrote a book about it.
Ah yes, the French. First the Napoleonic Wars, then post-modernism, now this.
Lenina Rosenweg
12th October 2011, 02:56
Its been a while and I'm sure there's a back story to it but isn't there only one girl Smurf and a whole lot of boy Smurfs? Is this the reverse of the "communism of women" that Marx made fun of? Do the Smurfs represent the original matriarchal communism?
Joseph S.
12th October 2011, 09:25
Ah yes, the French. First the Napoleonic Wars, then post-modernism, now this.
So you dont like the French, any reason besid's that you can think of to pas the book of as rubisch?
Im wondering why they all hated the black smurf.
tir1944
12th October 2011, 10:41
The real question is,why the hell is OP playing Second Life?
:laugh:
Lanky Wanker
12th October 2011, 23:36
This is gonna turn into the goddamn smurf thread soon.
Lenina Rosenweg
12th October 2011, 23:48
Should we declare this a Smurf free thread then? As for a tread topic, we've already established that noone knows what blue communism is, no one except the OP and to some extent myself likes Second Life, so what else really is there? Does the dialog just stop then?
Red Commissar
13th October 2011, 00:41
In the lost years of my teenage days, I had made a secondlife account. Not to seriously use, but to aid in the great crusade of the internets.
The internets had secured a special relationship with some university trying to 'study' internet culture- "Woodbury University" google tells me.
On the outside it looked like the other campuses of uni's trying to be hip and cool. But underground through a secret entrance, the internets was revealed. Just think about it- what would happen if you let the mindset that dominated places like 4chan and Somethingawful loose down there? Yeah. A hive of scum and villainy. But in a good way.
I had joined this attempt to create our little 'City on the Hill', the purest expression of the internets. We constructed a glorious hellhole, one that made people wonder how we wasted our time doing that. It was unique and humorous to me then.
At some point I stopped using the program. Maybe a week tops I was using it. Some time later (~2007) this oddity of the intertubes got purged due to complaints about what they were doing to other users in the form of raids and harassment. From what I read when the uni re-established itself, they came back and did a whole soviet and eastern bloc theme, which got some self-styled Russian emigre lobertarian butt hurt and caused another wave of drama that led to its destruction again.
SidBh
13th October 2011, 05:57
The real question is,why the hell is OP playing Second Life?
:laugh:
To meet fans of Star Wars who role-play characters from the movies and the Star Wars canon.
genstrike
13th October 2011, 06:31
I found a group on Second Life called Blue commies. What exactly is Blue Communism? The info said they were against the Red Commies.
fucking Glasman...
Joseph S.
13th October 2011, 06:37
fucking Glasman...
A very useful comment.
You really made a point.
:rolleyes:
Yuppie Grinder
13th October 2011, 21:02
second life is silly
ZeroNowhere
13th October 2011, 21:17
To meet fans of Star Wars who role-play characters from the movies and the Star Wars canon.
'I am Anakin Skywalker. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.'
SidBh
13th October 2011, 23:21
fucking Glasman...
What exactly is a Glasman?
genstrike
14th October 2011, 00:00
What exactly is a Glasman?
Maurice Glasman... the "Blue Labour" guy whose bullshit has been in vogue in some circles as of late. The guy who thinks the problem with New Labour is that it wasn't right-wing or racist enough, is so far to the right in the UK Labour Party that Tony Blair thinks he's a sellout. The joke was that apparently Glasman isn't satisfied with just fucking up Labour.
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