What if your country was invaded by Communists?

[Loknar]

Obviously this is purely hypothetical.


Well I rented a movie called "Red Dawn", it's about a Soviet/Cuban invasion of America. Now, lets say some of you guys (communists) were in the occupied parts of the US (assuming you live here): What would you do? I used to believe that Communism does not advocate patriotism but Chairman mao said otherwise. So you have 3 choices, 1. Neutrality, 2. Resistance (Most Americans would follow this choice) or 3. Join the Soviets and Cubans in an effort to bring Communism to the US.

SO what would you do?

[synthesis]

Firstly, this is one of the silliest hypothetical situations ever. The movie was made to inspire anti-Communism and American patriotism even though it was the era of Gorbachov, when a Soviet invasion was about as likely as Reagan going Communist.

Secondly, in the event of any invasion, neutrality is not an option.

Thirdly, Communism is internationalist and globalist and therefore I do not believe that anyone not confined to OI would ever choose anything other than the third choice.

[synthesis]

I should add that Chairman Mao was correct in that many Leninists attempted to inspire a form of nationalism in order to generate support for the state. This is not, however, an issue until after the revolution (or, in your scenario, an invasion) that shifts society to the point that Communists would be comfortable with patriotism.

[SonofRage]

I believe in self-determination. Another nation doesn't have the right to come to the US and force Communism any more than the US has the right to force capitalism on other nations. I would resist but if things in the nation got really fucked up I would work to rebuild the nation as a socialist nation.

[apathy maybe]

If in the unlikely even my country (which ever) was invaded by communists, of cause I would support them. That is if they were true communists, not the type they had in the USSR and have now in Cuba.

[driver]

More than half of my government are members of the SACP. Its not such a bad thing, we need it in this country. But not ANC, Patricia de Lille gets my vote!

END!

[atlanticche]

you can't have a communist invasion, cause that would imply that they have an army, implying in turn a hierarchy which as i think everyone here knows isn't exactly communist

plus to make the country communist after years of socialism to make it communist they would really have to be nuetral, having no enemies

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Option #3 here, regardless wheather its Cuba or the USSR. :P

[Desert Fox]

Altough a communist regime founded by a revolution by the people of the country itself would be better but if your regime is as f*cked up as it is here, I would choose for the 3th option. But my opinion varies how the invaders would treat the natives.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 01:40 AM
I believe in self-determination. Another nation doesn't have the right to come to the US and force Communism any more than the US has the right to force capitalism on other nations. I would resist but if things in the nation got really fucked up I would work to rebuild the nation as a socialist nation.
Don't mind me saying, but that's the biggest load of bullshit that I have heard coming from a communist!
Communism is democracy.
Forcing democracy upon people is giving them freedom.
Which is not really forcing anything upon anyone.
We would be fighting to give power to power to the people of America, and you would be fighting against us?
You would be the one fighting against self-determination.
Communism goves people the right of self-determination.
You would resist beacuse most Americans don't want it?
...even though you do?
You're giving up your vote to the majority?
:(
You worry me, comrade.
I just hope there will be others who join us in the struggle.

[Bradyman]

I chose option 3 so long as I knew that their intentions were right and that they were real communists.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 04:19 PM
I chose option 3 so long as I knew that their intentions were right and that they were real communists.
Define real communist, since there are various forms of communism. And all of them are based on marxism but are different in some ways of each other. And don&#39;t forget that communism would have lot of protest of right wingers and even of some socialists, who disaprove violence. Since in my view socialism is a far weakend form of communism <_<

[elijahcraig]

I would join up with de Communists.

[YKTMX]

Firstly, Red Dawn is one of the worst, most offensively ludicrous movies ever made. Secondly, if Stalinist had invaded Britain then I would fought on the side of the resistance obviously.

[Cassius Clay]

Well given the very likely scenario that the armies in the west suddenly became so rubbish that the glourious resistance is made up purely of college jocks and their good looking girlfriends I&#39;d declare for the resistance simply because I stand a better chance of getting laid :D

Anyway YKTMX that ain&#39;t the spirit, what happened to Trotsky&#39;s defence of the USSR? Just what do you think them &#39;Stalinists&#39; are going to do? Oh yes Dr Goebbels and Conquest have informed us all that they rape our women, eat our babies, kill our priests and are generally in alliance with the Devil himself.

If your being serious ofcourse it very much depends on whether these Commies were what they said they were. Marxist-Leninist princeples are for national-self determination (spell?), that means it aint the in thing to go about invading whoever. Ofcourse given that Capitalists are usually the ones to go and start these wars it would probably be a similar situation to 1945 when the Red Army had overun Europe and parts of Asia from Fascist tyranny and agression. If that&#39;s the case I welcome the liberators not in the name of Communism (although I&#39;m a Commie) but in the name of anti-Imperialism and for national-self determination (spell?), after the nation has been freed we then set about creating a Socialist revolution.

If on the other hand it was the USSR of post 1956 then I may elect to fight as the genuine Commies did in Afghanistan. That was a case of ourtight agression. If a conentional WW3 happened in the 80&#39;s and I was there, well I would probably catch the next flight to Albania and hope it dont destroy the world.

[BuyOurEverything]

I believe in self-determination. Another nation doesn&#39;t have the right to come to the US and force Communism any more than the US has the right to force capitalism on other nations. I would resist but if things in the nation got really fucked up I would work to rebuild the nation as a socialist nation.

After we&#39;ve exploited them and starved their populations with unfair trade practices, they don&#39;t have a right to invade us? I&#39;d say they have more of a right to invade us than we do of continuing to exist.

[Don't Change Your Name]

In first place, you Loknar seem to see so many movies. Especially those yanqui movies where a bunch of white-thrash gun lover nazis create a "patriotic militia" to defend themselves from the "liberal nigger russian jewish evil communists".

No I havent seen that movie but I believe no communist will ever attack another communist, in fact most communists on the country being invaded will help their foreign comrades, and if such an imperialist communist attack happens then I assume that the invaded countries&#39; government is a group of capitalist thieves or some insane fascist dictatorship (which is almost the same).

[Saint-Just]

Since communists such as Chairman Mao are patriots, people who are Marxist-Leninists would likely invite soviet/cuban invasion as the soviets and cubans would obviously establish a sovereign regime.

[Loknar]

But doesn’t this merely force Communism on the people? In countries like Russia and China there was a revolution allowing for the general population to decide. But as in the case of Eastern Europe it is much different. To this day people living in those areas have a unfavorable opinion of Communism.

El Infiltr(A)do

Look, I was merely using it as an example. I didn’t even like the movie all that much (it was OK at the very least).

About no Communist attacking another; During the 1950&#39;s the Soviets and Chinese had many border clashes. 1 Million soviet troops were stationed with in a reasonable distance to China. Also China did invade Vietnam (thus breaking their ties to the Soviet Union). In fact I&#39;d say the Soviets and Chinese were enemies after Stalin died. Hell look at Mao&#39;s Great Leap, he depended on Russia for food and in turn China would have been the #1 steel exporter in the world. I think the Soviets didn’t want this to happen and merely wanted to keep China under their thumb.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 03:37 PM
But doesn’t this merely force Communism on the people?
Like I&#39;ve said, it&#39;s absolutely impossible to force freedom and democracy upon people. It&#39;s called liberation, something that you capies need to re-examine.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by Victorcommie+Nov 2 2003, 09:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Victorcommie @ Nov 2 2003, 09:18 PM)
[email protected] 2 2003, 03:37 PM
But doesn’t this merely force Communism on the people?
Like I&#39;ve said, it&#39;s absolutely impossible to force freedom and democracy upon people. It&#39;s called liberation, something that you capies need to re-examine. [/b]
Perhaps I should ask: Isn’t it wrong to force a different economic system on the people?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Not if it&#39;s one that gives them power.
Liberation is giving people freedom. And freedom is not only power over yourself, but also power over your society. If the interests of the people are catered to, then this is liberty, democarcy, and socialism. Giving this to the people is not at all oppressive in any sense of the word.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 08:37 PM
But doesn’t this merely force Communism on the people? In countries like Russia and China there was a revolution allowing for the general population to decide. But as in the case of Eastern Europe it is much different. To this day people living in those areas have a unfavorable opinion of Communism.
You are right to some extent. A communist country would only conceivably invade the U.S. if it was engaged in war with the U.S. In which case communism would be forced upon them.

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by Victorcommie+Nov 2 2003, 04:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Victorcommie @ Nov 2 2003, 04:18 PM)
[email protected] 2 2003, 03:37 PM
But doesn’t this merely force Communism on the people?
Like I&#39;ve said, it&#39;s absolutely impossible to force freedom and democracy upon people. It&#39;s called liberation, something that you capies need to re-examine. [/b]
so that means you agree to "liberating" iraq?

[Pro-MyIdeals]

BTW...i love red dawn...i&#39;ve had it on tape for a number of years

[(*]

Originally posted by Pro-MyIdeals+Nov 2 2003, 07:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pro-MyIdeals @ Nov 2 2003, 07:16 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 04:18 PM

[email protected] 2 2003, 03:37 PM
But doesn’t this merely force Communism on the people?
Like I&#39;ve said, it&#39;s absolutely impossible to force freedom and democracy upon people. It&#39;s called liberation, something that you capies need to re-examine.
so that means you agree to "liberating" iraq? [/b]
That&#39;s what the US called it, doesn&#39;t make it so.

As VC said, it is impossible to force freedom an democracy upon people.

[REDWARRIOR]

First off RED DAWN is a bomb movie, i watch it all the time. And i dunno what i would do. Socialism has to happen to a country through a revolution a civil war, not outsiders coming in and changing a country, that would make them no better than the US. And it would all depend on the country. If Canada was invaded by China or North Korea you fucking right i would take up arms and resist, but if it =was the USSR i would probably join them, it all depends where the invaders are coming from, what their motives are. Cause if there are just coming to take over, rule adn impose forgien concepts upon you then of course you would fight back. I think the transitin into communism has to be initiated by the citizens of your country not forced upon you by forgien armies.

[Mano Dayak]

Well I wouldn&#39;t be unhappy about Communists invading Switzerland...we need more leftists in my country anyway&#33; :ph34r:

[Invader Zim]

I would sit back and watch, after all if the resistance win, then chanses are they will set up there own dictator, if the stalinist&#39;s won, then they would set up a dictatorship. No differance.

[Sabocat]

WOLVERINES&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



3.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Victorcommie+Nov 2 2003, 09:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Victorcommie @ Nov 2 2003, 09:18 PM)
[email protected] 2 2003, 03:37 PM
But doesn’t this merely force Communism on the people?
Like I&#39;ve said, it&#39;s absolutely impossible to force freedom and democracy upon people. It&#39;s called liberation, something that you capies need to re-examine. [/b]
Well it is not like we ever got the chance to choose our political system, so why shouldn&#39;t we get the chance to change. And communism is disliked by the majority of the people of western society a big part believes in their goverment and the bourgeois don&#39;t want communism either.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 3 2003, 12:23 PM
Well it is not like we ever got the chance to choose our political system, so why shouldn&#39;t we get the chance to change. And communism is disliked by the majority of the people of western society a big part believes in their goverment and the bourgeois don&#39;t want communism either.
Giving people a choice of their political system (assuming they understand all political systems), will only result in the people choosing communism. Because communsim is where the government is necessarily subject to the rule of the people. In capitalism this is not so. Communsim gives people power. It allows the people to have power and wield it through means of their government. All politics are but a means to give power to a particular class and cater to the interests of that class. In capitalism that class is the bourgeoisie. The government in capitalism acts in fuction of the interests of the bourgeoisie. The only people who would seek this type of government are those who have something to gain from it, i.e., the bourgeoisie. This group is a minority and their interests are of no value in a democarcy. A democarcy is necessarily communist.

Americans are brainwashed into believing that the interests of the bourgeoisie are those of the people. They are constantly giving more power to the bourgeoisie by accepting religion, racism, chauvinism, nationalism, and other notions that act only to strengthen the bourgeoisie. These things act against the emancipation of the working class and are an enemy to the people.

[nezvanova]

well, if it were a revolution, rather than an invasion, i probably would support it. Then again, on the other hand, seeing as how fucked up north american politics are right now, (especially in my country--canada-- and province --british columbia) i&#39;d probably assist in the rebel movement, invasion or no invasion. But i guess it would depend. It&#39;s a very vague question to ask...too many variables.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Victorcommie+Nov 3 2003, 09:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Victorcommie @ Nov 3 2003, 09:26 PM)
Desert [email protected] 3 2003, 12:23 PM
Well it is not like we ever got the chance to choose our political system, so why shouldn&#39;t we get the chance to change. And communism is disliked by the majority of the people of western society a big part believes in their goverment and the bourgeois don&#39;t want communism either.
Giving people a choice of their political system (assuming they understand all political systems), will only result in the people choosing communism. Because communsim is where the government is necessarily subject to the rule of the people. In capitalism this is not so. Communsim gives people power. It allows the people to have power and wield it through means of their government. All politics are but a means to give power to a particular class and cater to the interests of that class. In capitalism that class is the bourgeoisie. The government in capitalism acts in fuction of the interests of the bourgeoisie. The only people who would seek this type of government are those who have something to gain from it, i.e., the bourgeoisie. This group is a minority and their interests are of no value in a democarcy. A democarcy is necessarily communist.

Americans are brainwashed into believing that the interests of the bourgeoisie are those of the people. They are constantly giving more power to the bourgeoisie by accepting religion, racism, chauvinism, nationalism, and other notions that act only to strengthen the bourgeoisie. These things act against the emancipation of the working class and are an enemy to the people. [/b]
A great example is the war on "terrorism". The company where Bush Sr is part of has gained over 1 billion dollars from 11 september. They exploit everything for their own gains. The bourgeois must be overthrown by the people and that can only be done with violence since speaking with snakes that spread their lies doesn&#39;t work <_<

[Red October]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2003, 12:17 AM
BTW...i love red dawn...i&#39;ve had it on tape for a number of years
Figures a Jew would love that movie :angry:

[Red October]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 08:37 PM
To this day people living in those areas have a unfavorable opinion of Communism.


Speak for yourself, as you do not speak for Eastern Europeans. Capitalists have wrecked our national identity with their gangsters, whores, and corrupt cronies. Thanks to globalization, patriotism no longer exists :angry:

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Red October+Nov 5 2003, 05:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Red October @ Nov 5 2003, 05:20 PM)
[email protected] 3 2003, 12:17 AM
BTW...i love red dawn...i&#39;ve had it on tape for a number of years
Figures a Jew would love that movie :angry: [/b]
What do you mean by that ? :ph34r:

[Red October]

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 5 2003, 05:26 PM
What do you mean by that ? :ph34r:
I mean that it figures that a Jew would get great pleasure from watching a pro-zionist pro-capitalist movie portaying Communism as evil.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Red October+Nov 5 2003, 05:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Red October @ Nov 5 2003, 05:34 PM)
Desert [email protected] 5 2003, 05:26 PM
What do you mean by that ? :ph34r:
I mean that it figures that a Jew would get great pleasure from watching a pro-zionist pro-capitalist movie portaying Communism as evil. [/b]
Well I don&#39;t really agree with your statement but anyway watch out what you say here or you will get flamed and/or restricted ;)

[Cassius Clay]

Redoctober.

While it may of not of been your intention to of appeared anti-semitic, and I hope it wasn&#39;t you made a comment that could well be interpreted as such. If it is the case that this is just a misunderstanding then I think you should set the record straight. There&#39;s many folkes around here who are all to eager to accuse folks of being anti-semitic.

If it is the case that you are anti-Jewish purely based on race and stereotypes then I would say that no one wants Fascist scum around here. Also Comrade Stalin was NOT IN ANYWAY ANTI-SEMITIC, the Jewish people like many others made enourmous progress in the USSR where their cultural heritage and history was promoted in the wake of years of Nationalist oppression.

Like the rest of the bourgesie the Jewish bosses are the enemy. That doesn&#39;t mean the average Jew somehow benefits from anti-Communism the opposite infact. I would gladly have every Zionist shot if need be, most of all for their crimes against among others the Jewish workers and Communists.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2003, 12:10 AM
well, if it were a revolution, rather than an invasion, i probably would support it. Then again, on the other hand, seeing as how fucked up north american politics are right now, (especially in my country--canada-- and province --british columbia) i&#39;d probably assist in the rebel movement, invasion or no invasion. But i guess it would depend. It&#39;s a very vague question to ask...too many variables.
I agree to an extent. They would have a hard time taking out the U&#036; military structure and I would aid them to some extent. After the struggle though, I would try to bring about a communist government either way. If the ruling class in the U&#036; was destroyed, we would just be better off. These invaders would be attacking may enemies of the people but still many working class people in the military could die for nothing. It really depends on how successful it could be, if it would only cause bloodshed and suffering, I would not help but if it could really help the people to bring about a better society, I would do it without hesitation.

[Marxist in Nebraska]

The well-being of the working class is what I am concerned with. I would determine who I would support or oppose by doing what is best for the workers.

[Red October]

Originally posted by Cassius [email protected] 5 2003, 08:23 PM
Also Comrade Stalin was NOT IN ANYWAY ANTI-SEMITIC, the Jewish people like many others made enourmous progress in the USSR where their cultural heritage and history was promoted in the wake of years of Nationalist oppression.
eh? I guess you missed that part where Comrade Stalin purged Trotskyist elements from the Soviet Union. Or how about when he threw hundreds of thousands of them into the Gulag to die. Or what about the Soviet and East German funded Red Army Faction? You know....the group that killed the entire 1972 Israeli Olympic team.

I don&#39;t know about you, but the evidence speaks otherwise. But the Comrade did the right thing against these counter-revolutionary elements.

But I am willing to bet there are many here that don&#39;t know much about Stalin and the Soviet Union, only what they choose to know. But that is just as well. Some are better off living in their own invented world and thereby become harmless to those that really run things.

Afterall, many here get their information from Western liberal sources. These sources were written by people with an agenda, of course. European socialism, especially eastern European, is not understood by the West. Never was. It likely never will be.

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by Red October+Nov 5 2003, 12:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Red October @ Nov 5 2003, 12:20 PM)
[email protected] 3 2003, 12:17 AM
BTW...i love red dawn...i&#39;ve had it on tape for a number of years
Figures a Jew would love that movie :angry: [/b]
and you are the reason my family could barely leave their house when they lived in your wonderful "society."

and thanx for the gangsters and whores you guys sent here...you can barely move in brooklyn without bumping into the cossack russian mob

[BuyOurEverything]

eh? I guess you missed that part where Comrade Stalin purged Trotskyist elements from the Soviet Union.

So Trotskyist somehow means Jewish?


Or what about the Soviet and East German funded Red Army Faction? You know....the group that killed the entire 1972 Israeli Olympic team.

Hate to break it to ya but Stalin was dead in 1972.


I don&#39;t know about you, but the evidence speaks otherwise. But the Comrade did the right thing against these counter-revolutionary elements.

Judaism is counter-revolutionary?

[Pro-MyIdeals]

also...one member of that team survived in 1972 by jumping out a window...my uncle was supposed to go that year for weightlifting, but he had to stay home and work in order to support his family...good thing he didn&#39;t go

[Red October]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2003, 11:03 PM
and you are the reason my family could barely leave their house when they lived in your wonderful "society."

and thanx for the gangsters and whores you guys sent here...you can barely move in brooklyn without bumping into the cossack russian mob
And what did the Communist Party of the Russian Federation have to do with that? Oddly enough, if you look at the immigration records of the majority of Russian immigrants to the USA (especially the mob), you will notice they are Jewish. They went from Russia to Israel and from there to the USA. I love that. Jews have absolutely no problem getting into the United States, but your average hard-working eastern European has to pay 10.000 USD to bribe the consul at the Embassy for a Visa.

Go ahead. Do some research on your so-called Russian neighbors. And then come back and tell me what percentage of them are Jewish. You&#39;ll be surprised.

And in case you didn&#39;t notice, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is on the forefront in the fight against prostitution, pornography, and gangsters. Don&#39;t blame us.

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by Red October+Nov 5 2003, 06:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Red October @ Nov 5 2003, 06:24 PM)
[email protected] 5 2003, 11:03 PM
and you are the reason my family could barely leave their house when they lived in your wonderful "society."

and thanx for the gangsters and whores you guys sent here...you can barely move in brooklyn without bumping into the cossack russian mob
And what did the Communist Party of the Russian Federation have to do with that? Oddly enough, if you look at the immigration records of the majority of Russian immigrants to the USA (especially the mob), you will notice they are Jewish. They went from Russia to Israel and from there to the USA. I love that. Jews have absolutely no problem getting into the United States, but your average hard-working eastern European has to pay 10.000 USD to bribe the consul at the Embassy for a Visa.

Go ahead. Do some research on your so-called Russian neighbors. And then come back and tell me what percentage of them are Jewish. You&#39;ll be surprised.

And in case you didn&#39;t notice, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is on the forefront in the fight against prostitution, pornography, and gangsters. Don&#39;t blame us. [/b]
i blame you for my family having to flee your "wonderfully free" country...you would not let us practice our religion...in the US, everyone can openly think what they want, hence the existence of websites like this and their opposites

[Red October]

So Trotskyist somehow means Jewish?

Yes, it does. Trotsky and his followers were Jewish. This is widely known in Eastern Europe and widely acknowledged by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.


Hate to break it to ya but Stalin was dead in 1972.

No need to give me a history lesson. I know this. His legacy, however, was not dead. Ever hear of the so-called Soviet "hardliners?"


Judaism is counter-revolutionary?

Yes. Technically all religion is counter-revolutionary. But I won&#39;t get into that. Even Karl Marx (himself Jew) denounced Jews.

Just how much do you think you know about Stalin and the Soviet Union?

[Red October]

in the US, everyone can openly think what they want, hence the existence of websites like this and their opposites

Yes yes. America: the land of the free and pretty smelling flowers. I love these websites that go up. "Oh I&#39;m such a big communist&#33; Ah&#33;"

Sure you are. You are a middle/upper class punk that has no clue what poverty is. You think that communism is some pretty lets-love-each-other circle jerk and think that becaue you got ass-fucked by jocks in the boy&#39;s locker room after gym class that this is your revenge against fascism.

How laughable.

If you only knew how it really was. People like my grandfather knew how it really was. He was a People&#39;s Tribune that sent people to their death for counter-revolutionary activity. He spilled blood to make Communism happen. There were no flowers and happy sing-alongs. Hate to burst your bubble.

The reality of Communism is nothing like text-book Communism.

((End Rant))

And I love how anarcho wanna-be communists sweep the Red-Brown alliance under the rug for some reason.

[BuyOurEverything]

Yes, it does. Trotsky and his followers were Jewish. This is widely known in Eastern Europe and widely acknowledged by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

Do you think the theory of relativity is inherantly Jewish because Einstein was?


Yes. Technically all religion is counter-revolutionary. But I won&#39;t get into that. Even Karl Marx (himself Jew) denounced Jews.

I agree with that but persecution of specific religions and brutality for no reason other than their religion is not revolutionary by any stretch of the imagination. Most people in western society have been brainwashed into following capitalist ideology (which is obviously counter-revolutionary.) Do you think we should kill everyone living in western society?

[synthesis]

Red October, Stalin would have had you shot.


Anti-Semitism is dangerous for the toilers, for it is a false track which diverts them from the proper road and leads them into the jungle. Hence, Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable and bitter enemies of anti-Semitism. In the U.S.S.R., anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon hostile to the Soviet system. According to the laws of the U.S.S.R. active anti-Semites are punished with death.

Stalin, January 12, 1931, to an inquiry made by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency of America

Not to mention this quote by Lenin:


There the great universally progressive features of Jewish culture have made themselves clearly felt: its internationalism, its responsiveness of the advanced movements of our times (the percentage of Jews in democratic and proletarian movements is everywhere higher than the percentage of Jews in the general population.)
...Those Jewish Marxists who join up in the international Marxist organizations with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other workers, adding their might (both in Russian and in Jewish) to the creation of an international culture of the working class movement, are continuing the best traditions of Jewry.

Lenin was Jewish, too.