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KurtFF8
10th October 2011, 15:43
Source (http://news.yahoo.com/democrats-seek-own-occupy-wall-street-movement-222048239.html;_ylt=AtoW6yMvmlxcsxiZDlbqUnWs0NUE;_ ylu=X3oDMTNtOHQ5aGc0BG1pdANKdW1ib3Ryb24gRlAEcGtnA2 YwODY1ODUwLTk2ODEtM2Y3Mi1hZDg5LWM4ZWE1MTRkMDBiZARw b3MDMgRzZWMDanVtYm90cm9uBHZlcgNkNTUxNGY1YS1mMzQwLT ExZTAtOGQ3Ni1mM2NmYWVhZTk5ZGE-;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3)


Occupation can lead to ownership, whether or not you want it. The spread of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement was met with initial hesitation in both the Democratic and Republican parties. That might be an appropriate response to any protests that aim themselves squarely at the establishment, particularly those with goals that are diverse and diffuse as the current protesters' are.
But a consensus is emerging among Democrats that the "Occupy" movement is worth tapping into (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/gop-rep-broun-occupy-wall-street-is-attack-upon-freedom/), even helping along and joining with in some instances.
"I support the message to the establishment," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said on ABC's "This Week." "Change has to happen. We cannot continue in a way that does not -- that is not relevant to their lives. People are angry."
To Democrats eager for a liberal antidote to the Tea Party energy that lifted Republicans to power last year, the "Occupy" rallies that started in New York last month and have spread to cities nationwide are tempting to embrace.
In their broadest focus, the protesters channel the indignation Democrats are trying to stir up in the year before the presidential election. The Obama White House is seeking to rally the public for a jobs package and deficit-reduction ideas that argue for the rich and corporate America to pay more -- goals the protesters largely share.
"The protesters are giving voice to a more broad-based frustration about how our financial system works," President Obama said last week when asked at a news conference about the "Occupy Wall Street" events.
It may be that occupiers wind up playing a role for the political left that tea partiers did for the right. But Republicans had one significant advantage in taking ownership of the Tea Party phenomenon: they were entirely out of power in Washington when the movement took root.




To occupiers, at least some of the blame for their perceived lack of accountability in corporate America rests with the current Democratic administration. A persistent liberal critique of Obama administration has been its coziness with Wall Street, and the lack of more drastic actions to repair the economy after eight years under George W. Bush.
In that sense, the protests may highlight divisions inside the Democratic Party even more than they motivate the party faithful.
The tea party faced major internal rifts -- including some that almost certainly cost Republicans Senate seats last year -- in its infancy. But most of those divisions have long since healed, as tea partiers work almost entirely in concert with Republicans, with the prospect of defeating Obama next year serving as a unifying influence.
The movement has some Republicans concerned -- worried enough to start swinging back.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., has expressed concern about the "growing mobs" that are engaged in "the pitting of Americans against Americans."
Cantor's condemnation of members of Congress who are rooting the protesters on echoes conservative commentators who are belittling and delegitimizing the protests. "Occupy Wall Street" hasn't matched the Tea Party when it comes to numbers, or to concrete goals, though neither movement could ever boast of being monolithic.
Others have gone farther in denouncing the current round of protests. Tea Party Rep. Paul Broun, R-Ga., last week labeled the "Occupy" protests as an "attack upon freedom," and suggested that labor unions have hijacked the movement to boost the president's reelection prospects.
"They don't know why they're there. They're just mad," Broun said of the protesters, on ABC's "Top Line." (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/gop-rep-broun-occupy-wall-street-is-attack-upon-freedom/)
Anger, of course, respects no political boundaries these days. Many of the Republicans who are now critical of "Occupy" were cheering the Tea Party movement on.
Now it's Democrats who get to learn the lesson: Channeling the emotions of anger in politics is seldom as simple as it seems.


We shall see I suppose

thefinalmarch
10th October 2011, 15:51
Liberal wankers.

tfb
10th October 2011, 15:56
Nancy Pelosi is really sticking it to the establishment!

RadioRaheem84
10th October 2011, 16:34
Fuck the Democrats. Like always they're jumping on the bandwagon after they see the popularity of the movement and will try to co-opt it in order to moderate the more radical elements.

Typical stuff.

I hope the movement is smarter than to let them in.

KurtFF8
10th October 2011, 16:36
Someone should write a piece "Occupy Wall Street Movement" Seeks to own the Democrats

Vladimir Innit Lenin
10th October 2011, 16:44
Nancy Pelosi really is the worst kind of person. I hate the 'liberal elite' shit that right-wingers spew, but she really is the stereotype. What a wanker.

Sasha
10th October 2011, 16:58
Fuck the Democrats. Like always they're jumping on the bandwagon after they see the popularity of the movement and will try to co-opt it in order to moderate the more radical elements.

Typical stuff.

I hope the movement is smarter than to let them in.

"Wer hat uns immer verraten? die sozial-demokraten!"

RadioRaheem84
10th October 2011, 17:07
Wer hat uns immer verraten? die sozial-demokraten!"

My German is a bit shoddy. Care to translate plz?

Where have I been? The Social Democrats????

thriller
10th October 2011, 17:11
I heard Ed Schultz talking about it. All he could say is "ARE THESE OBAMA SUPPORTERS?!?! I understand there are fringe anarchists, but they are not true Americans" Liberals only care about the ballot box.

tfb
10th October 2011, 17:15
My German is a bit shoddy. Care to translate plz?

Where have I been? The Social Democrats????

Google translate says it's something like "who has betrayed us?"

Lenina Rosenweg
10th October 2011, 17:26
Google translate says it's something like "who has betrayed us?"

I believe its a quote from the German Communist folksinger Ernst Busch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBhbqAxcXTI

The mere existence of the Occupy movement is an implicit criticism of the Dems since they are the party in power. The Dems are being very careful and coy in how they are handling this. It could morph into something threatening to the system or it could be absorbed into the mainstream like the anti-war movement.I'm sure Dem Party strategists have spent quite a lot of time thinking about this.

Nancy "Impeachment Is Off The Table" Pelosi's use of the term "establishment" sounds 60ish. Either she is out of touch or it may be deliberate, an attempt to portray the protesters as out of the mainstream hippies while still "respecting" their sentiments.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it. The movement seems to have a similar trajectory
as that of the JFK era disillusioned boomers becoming radicals. The Obama as JFK analogy may turn out to be true in more ways than one.The 2010s as the new 60s?

Because the left is marginal in the US there is little or no historical memory and every generation has to learn this shit all over again for themselves.

wunderbar
10th October 2011, 17:43
I heard Ed Schultz talking about it. All he could say is "ARE THESE OBAMA SUPPORTERS?!?! I understand there are fringe anarchists, but they are not true Americans" Liberals only care about the ballot box.

I made the mistake of watching Ed Schultz on TV last week and he asked someone (I don't remember who) "WERE THESE PROTESTERS THE ONES WHO ALLOWED THE REPUBLICANS TO TAKE OVER THE HOUSE IN 2010?!"

Zealot
10th October 2011, 17:46
I keep hearing about this, comrades need to take this shit over, it's hitting my rage nerve

Revy
10th October 2011, 18:01
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/186467-dccc-asks-supporters-to-sign-petition-in-support-of-occupy-wall-street



The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is asking supporters to sign a petition in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement.


"Protestors are assembling in New York and around the country to let billionaires, big oil and big bankers know that we’re not going to let the richest 1% force draconian economic policies and massive cuts to crucial programs on Main Street Americans," the DCCC email sent out Monday reads.



:rolleyes:

MustCrushCapitalism
10th October 2011, 19:43
The Occupy Wall Street thing is okay and all, but the US has no real left, so people are just going to see it as liberal anyways. The only way things will ever get really hot is if some moron like Ron Paul is elected and fucks things up enough where some actual left protests happen.

RadioRaheem84
10th October 2011, 20:47
Protestors are assembling in New York and around the country to let billionaires, big oil and big bankers know that we’re not going to let the richest 1% force draconian economic policies and massive cuts to crucial programs on Main Street Americans," the DCCC email sent out Monday reads.


Do they not see that this protest is against them too?

GatesofLenin
10th October 2011, 23:40
The great illusion of the US electorate. Both parties: Republicans are right-wing and Democrats are centre-right. Some choice there? :D

Comrade Funk
10th October 2011, 23:44
The great illusion of the US electorate. Both parties: Republicans are right-wing and Democrats are centre-right. Some choice there? :DEven if the Democrats were a center-left party, it really wouldn't matter at all. Just look at the so-called "democratic socialist" Labour Party in the UK.

Anyways, I love how the Dems actually believe Occupy Wall Street will support them. What idiots. :lol:

eric922
10th October 2011, 23:58
Good luck with that one democrats. News flash: Even your former liberal base is sick of you all.