My view on Anti Semitism.

[tradeunionsupporter]

I know that Zionism is bad but I don't think it is fair for the Anti Semites Neo Nazis and the or the Jew Haters to blame all of the World's Problems on the Jews they blame one religion one ethnic group or one ethnicity for everything that goes bad in the World they use the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to make everything look like a Jewish Conspiracy or they may blame a Zionist Conspiracy in my view the real enemy of the people is not Jews the enemy are Capitalists of all races of all religions of all nations there are Rich Jews Poor Jews and there are Working Class Jews would anyone agree with my view on Anti Semitism ? I know of Anti Semites like David Duke if you say there are powerful Rich Gentiles who do bad things too he would say that the Gentiles in power are just Puppets of the Jews or the Puppets of the Zionists. I just think saying every powerful Gentile who is evil is a Puppet of the Jews is wrong in my view.

Lenin on anti-semitism

This speech by Lenin, from 1919, shows how the Bolsheviks attacked the problem of age-old Russian anti-semitism after the workers' revolution of 1917.


"Anti-semitism means spreading enmity towards the Jews. When the accursed Tsarist monarchy was living its last days it tried to incite ignorant workers and peasants against the Jews. The Tsarist police, in alliance with the landlords and capitalists, organised pogroms against the Jews. The landowners and capitalists tried to divert the hatred of the workers and peasants who were tortured by want against the Jews. In other countries, too, we often see the capitalists fomenting hatred against the Jews in order to blind the workers, to divert their attention from the real enemy of the working people, capital...
"It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism. Among the Jews there are kulaks, exploiters and capitalists, just as there among the Russians and among people of all nations. The capitalists strive to sow and foment hatred between workers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Those who do not work are kept in power by the power and strength of capital.
"Rich Jews, like rich Russians, and the rich in all countries, are in alliance to oppress, crush, rob and disunite the workers.
"Shame on accursed Tsarism which tortured and persecuted the Jews. Shame on those who foment hatred towards the Jews, who foment hatred towards other nations. "Long live the fraternal trust and fighting alliance of the workers of all nations in the struggle to overthrow capital."

http://archive.workersliberty.org/wlmags/wl59/lenin.htm

[tradeunionsupporter]

What does everyone think ?

[tir1944]

Yea most people here agree that antisemitism is bad.

[thesadmafioso]

Punctuation is your friend, use it.

That's my first thought on the matter.

[Geiseric]

Antisemitism, or any racism for that matter is extremely bad. However nationalism is just as bad.

[Seth]

Antisemitism, or any racism for that matter is extremely bad. However nationalism is just as bad.

I don't really have a strong opinion on this, but was, say, Vietnamese anti-imperialist nationalism during the American occupation/civil war really as anti-human and enslaving as ultranationalism in the Balkans?

That's the only real issue I have with the anti-nationalism on this forum. Where one creates divisions between workers, the other destroys the connections capital in the imperialist countries creates to sustain itself. But a lot of people treat them exactly the same.

[RedRevolution1938]

I don't really have a strong opinion on this, but was, say, Vietnamese anti-imperialist nationalism during the American occupation/civil war really as anti-human and enslaving as ultranationalism in the Balkans?

That's the only real issue I have with the anti-nationalism on this forum. Where one creates divisions between workers, the other destroys the connections capital in the imperialist countries creates to sustain itself. But a lot of people treat them exactly the same.

No. In my opinion, there is a STRONG difference between the anti-imperialist nationalism of the Vietnamese, which provided cultural cohesion to help harbor successful socialism and repel the imperialist invaders and the nationalism of the bourgeoisie.

[Seth]

No. In my opinion, there is a STRONG difference between the anti-imperialist nationalism of the Vietnamese, which provided cultural cohesion to help harbor successful socialism and repel the imperialist invaders and the nationalism of the bourgeoisie.

On the other hand, aren't they essentially the same political force in two different contexts?

[MattShizzle]

Antisemitism is bad. However, equating anti-Israel with anti-semitism is nearly as bad. Israel is nearly Fascist especially how it deals with its neighbors.

[Geiseric]

Seth: If nationalism in any way excluded any minorities or ended up with the vietnamese communist movement acting against any other nationality's attempts for liberation, like what I assume more or less happened in the balkans, than it was reactionary. at points when the white working class in america was acting against the black and immigrant working class in america, which was around late 1800s through theoretically now in some cases, nationalism was and is in an increadibly reactionary role.

[RedRevolution1938]

On the other hand, aren't they essentially the same political force in two different contexts?

No.