How will Capitalism come to and end?

[Reznov]

How will Capitalism come to an end?

[SacRedMan]

You have some people here that say it will not come to an end, or will be very weak. And there are those who say it is now coming to an end due to the crissises and so on. We can end capitalism by a revolution, violent or democratic. It will be hard, but it will be worth the price.

[Aleenik]

If we knew the exact way, we would probably have already done it and achieved Communism. I guess you could say though that Capitalism will end when class consciousness increases to a much greater level and the people act to demolish Capitalism. I honestly don't think Capitalism will destroy itself.

[SacRedMan]

If we knew the exact way, we would probably have already done it and achieved Communism.

We knew the exact way, but it was a hard and domestic way. And who says that we can archieve communism directly if capitalism collapses? There will be revolutions among the revolution of the left.

[Aleenik]

We knew the exact way, but it was a hard and domestic way. And who says that we can archieve communism directly if capitalism collapses? There will be revolutions among the revolution of the left.We've never known the exact way to demolish Capitalism. We can't know. Everyone has their own opinion. There are lots of different theories. Who knows if we can achieve Communism directly if Capitalism collapses. For all we know people could choose a different economic system than Communism.

[SacRedMan]

We've never known the exact way to demolish Capitalism. We can't know. Everyone has their own opinion. There are lots of different theories. Who knows if we can achieve Communism directly if Capitalism collapses. For all we know people could choose a different economic system than Communism.

I support the formula of "our grand-father" Marx:
1. End capitalism that is at the edge of society by a violent or democratic revolution
2. Install a socialist regime to destroy capitalism more effective
3. archieve a communist regime once all capitalist threats are wiped off the face of the earth.

[Aleenik]

I support the formula of "our grand-father" Marx:
1. End capitalism that is at the edge of society by a violent or democratic revolution
2. Install a socialist regime to destroy capitalism more effective
3. archieve a communist regime once all capitalist threats are wiped off the face of the earth.Yes, there are theories about how to bring about the end of Capitalism and install Communism, but what I meant was in relation to the question "How will Capitalism come to an end?" There are theories about how to do it, some pretty detailed theories too, but we can't know the exact way it will go down or even if Communism will be the method chosen by the people to replace Capitalism. Heck, we don't know if Capitalism will even come to an end. For all we know Capitalism could last forever or until Humanity dies off (If it does) at least.

Also, Marx isn't my "grand-father".:p

[SacRedMan]

Yes, there are theories about how to bring about the end of Capitalism and install Communism, but what I meant was in relation to the question "How will Capitalism come to an end?" There are theories about how to do it, some pretty detailed theories too, but we can't know the exact way it will go down or even if Communism will be the method chosen by the people to replace Capitalism. Heck, we don't know if Capitalism will even come to an end. For all we know Capitalism could last forever or until Humanity dies off (If it does) at least.

Also, Marx isn't my "grand-father".:p

I think, and that's my opinion, it will destroy itself.

[hatzel]

I think, and that's my opinion, it will destroy itself.

This being one of the more destructive ideas forwarded by certain strands of early century Marxism, inasmuch as it breeds a certain complacency which sees no reason to challenge the continued development of capitalism, instead leaving it to its own devices on the off chance that we may, one fine day in the future, be blessed with the opportunity to start again. If we do reach a stage, however, when capitalism merely dissolves, I doubt the blank canvas left for us will be all that desirable; capitalism would most likely only collapse by itself after the wholesale depletion of global resources, worldwide famine, ecological decimation etc...all the bad stuff that would make maintaining any kind of advanced society terribly difficult...

[Iron Felix]

Capitalism will collapse because of internal tensions, like the socialeconomic systems that preceded it and will be replaced by Socialism. This is what Marx predicted but I'm not entirely sure due to Capitalism's dynamic nature. Everytime capitalism is on the verge of collapse, it reinvents itself and becomes more rotten but the more rotten it becomes the stronger it becomes as well and this wasn't obvious in Marx's time.

[Nox]

I'm surprised nobody has said 'Revolution' yet.

[CommieTroll]

It will take great sacrifice and we need it now more than ever. The Revolution will be swift and brutal but hopefully it will be relatively peaceful (not likely). Capitalism will implode in on itself, it's even happening as we speak. When this ''revolution'' will come is hard to tell, the responsibility to act is on the working class. The best we can do is spread class consciousness and educate our fellow man.

[aristos]

I'm surprised nobody has said 'Revolution' yet.

That's too vague. Revolution doesn't just come about - it has to be engineered.
The only way to defeat capitalism is with an elaborate strategy that pools all anti-capitalist resources into one unstoppable force. One of the biggest barriers to this is a falsely principled unwillingness of revolutionary leftists to use dirty tactics. In stead of simply battling capitalism head-on we need to ambush it at every opportunity, prepare elaborate traps for it.
It would be generally useful for leftists in this day and age to read less Marx and more Sun Tzu.

[The Idler]

Capitalism will persist through boom and slump until a majority understand, want and take conscious action for a society of free access.

[SacRedMan]

I'm surprised nobody has said 'Revolution' yet.

Uh I did: "1. End capitalism that is at the edge of society by a violent or democratic revolution"

[CommunityBeliever]

I have a master plan to end capitalism, you just wait. :)

[citizen of industry]

In revolution, prompted by wide class gap, severe crisis and war.

[thefinalmarch]

That's too vague. Revolution doesn't just come about - it has to be engineered.
“…the Communists know only too well … that revolutions are not made deliberately and arbitrarily, but that everywhere and at all times they have been the necessary outcome of circumstances entirely independent of the will and the leadership of particular parties and entire classes.” – Engels


It would be generally useful for leftists in this day and age to read less Marx and more Sun Tzu.
Although it appears to me that you need to read more Marx and less Sun Tzu.

[DeBon]

We'll chain lock the doors to all of the nation's banks.
We'll light the government buildings on fire.
We'll seize the means of productions.
We'll throw Molotov cocktails at anyone who tries to stop us.
And we'll distribute cake to everyone. There's no point in a revolution without cake.

[CAleftist]

Let me get my crystal ball out and I will tell you...

[robbo203]

Perhaps more useful than ask how will capitalism come to an end is to ask what does it take for it to be brought to an end. The answer to that is 1) the technological potential to support a communist/socialist society and 2) mass understanding of what such a society broadly entails and the desire to achieve it.

We've got 1) but not 2). How to end capitalism involves figuring out how to get 2);)