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Nox
7th October 2011, 13:05
Just curious.

Dumb
7th October 2011, 13:33
Moderates.

thefinalmarch
7th October 2011, 13:39
right-wing internationalists

fuck those guys

eyedrop
7th October 2011, 14:21
Politicians, especially those who make a career out of it.

People who think an organisation with piss poor internal democracy can make society democratic.

tracher999
7th October 2011, 14:28
cops and all complaining shit

Smyg
7th October 2011, 14:31
Nazis, who sadly aren't an option.

The Stalinator
7th October 2011, 14:32
Conservatives and left-wing nationalists give me a good laugh now and then, but libertarians are snooty dickholes and they just piss me the fuck off. I would have to say I hate them the most.

Iron Felix
7th October 2011, 14:52
Everyone that disagrees with my opinions.

Right?

Revolutionair
7th October 2011, 14:58
Everyone that disagrees with my opinions.

Right?

Left! :hammersickle:

The Jay
7th October 2011, 15:19
Could somebody give me an example of a left-wing nationalist group?

La Comédie Noire
7th October 2011, 15:31
Libertarians because they engage in sophistry the most, but it's fun to constantly make them clarify what they mean because eventually you burn through the fat they gleamed from pamphlets and get straight to the ignorant bone.

Rafiq
7th October 2011, 15:32
Moderates.



This

Die Rote Fahne
7th October 2011, 15:36
Could somebody give me an example of a left-wing nationalist group?

Irish Republicans.

Nox
7th October 2011, 16:09
Nazis, who sadly aren't an option.

I specifically didn't make them an option, because I know that everyone would vote for them.

The question isn't 'who do you hate the most', it's 'who do you hate the most out of these three'.

Nox
7th October 2011, 16:11
Could somebody give me an example of a left-wing nationalist group?

National Bolsheviks

Ba'ath Party

Zanu-PF

National Socialism is technically left-wing economically

Ballyfornia
7th October 2011, 16:16
National Socialism is technically left-wing economically

"I absolutely insist on protecting private property... we must encourage private initiative" Hitler.

Although the Strasserist brothers were economically left wing.

Smyg
7th October 2011, 16:50
I specifically didn't make them an option, because I know that everyone would vote for them.

The question isn't 'who do you hate the most', it's 'who do you hate the most out of these three'.

Exactly. I'm on the same scale of hatred towards all three.

#FF0000
7th October 2011, 17:17
National Bolsheviks

Ba'ath Party

Zanu-PF

National Socialism is technically left-wing economically

literally none of this is correct except maybe zanu-pf

Nazi Germany had a p. typical keynesian thing going on. Lets not muddy the waters with this "technically left-wing" stuff

#FF0000
7th October 2011, 17:21
Could somebody give me an example of a left-wing nationalist group?

Irish Republicans, Basque Seperatists etc. etc. etc.

tir1944
7th October 2011, 17:26
Libertarians.
Also why would you have Irish Republicans?:confused:

OHumanista
7th October 2011, 17:32
I am voting libertarians because most of those who follow it (not the leaders) are deluded fools who can't even understand how their own ideas applied into practice would work.(they imagine a free hippie world as oposed to the corporate tyranny it would be)

But really any of these can piss me off :D

Nox
7th October 2011, 18:04
literally none of this is correct except maybe zanu-pf

Nazi Germany had a p. typical keynesian thing going on. Lets not muddy the waters with this "technically left-wing" stuff

The National Bolshevik movement is left-wing and nationalist.

The Ba'ath Party was and is left-wing and nationalist.

National Socialism, although not in practice, on paper was left-wing economically.

If you want sources for these, just ask.

By 'left-wing', I don't mean Socialist/Communist. I mean 'left-wing'.

Manic Impressive
7th October 2011, 18:12
literally none of this is correct except maybe zanu-pf

Nazi Germany had a p. typical keynesian thing going on. Lets not muddy the waters with this "technically left-wing" stuff
He's a Marxist-Leninist to him state capitalism is left wing

Nox
7th October 2011, 18:21
He's a Marxist-Leninist to him state capitalism is left wing

State Capitalism IS left-wing...

Awkward moment...

Do you even know what the economic left wing is? Didn't think so.

Manic Impressive
7th October 2011, 18:25
In a capitalist sense perhaps but it ain't socialism, the clue I think you'll find is in the name State CAPITALISM

#FF0000
7th October 2011, 18:42
The National Bolshevik movement is left-wing and nationalist.

WHAT?

No it is not. It's a "fascist" movement that uses left-wing idolatry and symbols.


The Ba'ath Party was and is left-wing and nationalist.
Again, no. The Ba'ath Party was (like the Nazi party) one of those "syncretic" political movements, which usually translates to using left-ish rhetoric while being decidedly right wing in most other aspects.


National Socialism, although not in practice, on paper was left-wing economically.
I don't know if being Keynesian or having a war economy is enough to say "yeah that's left wing". Like I said, it's muddying the waters. Would you say Churchill or Reagan were left wing too for using Keynesian ideas?


By 'left-wing', I don't mean Socialist/Communist. I mean 'left-wing'.

Fair enough. Then to answer Liquidstate's question we can point out groups like the INC, the ANC, etc. etc. etc.

A Revolutionary Tool
7th October 2011, 18:43
Conservatives and left-wing nationalists give me a good laugh now and then, but libertarians are snooty dickholes and they just piss me the fuck off. I would have to say I hate them the most.
This, fuck libertarians.

EvilRedGuy
7th October 2011, 18:56
Moderators.


Fixed.

Rodrigo
7th October 2011, 19:22
Irish Republicans.

The communist Romanians could be considered left-wing nationalism? I was reading about protochronism.

"Protochronism (anglicized from the Romanian: Protocronism, from the Ancient Greek terms for first in time) is a Romanian term describing the tendency to ascribe, largely relying on questionable data and subjective interpretations, an idealised past to the country as a whole. While particularly prevalent during the regime of Nicolae Ceauşescu, its origin in Romanian scholarship dates back more than a century. The term refers to perceived aggrandizing of Dacian and earlier roots of today's Romanians. This phenomenon is also pejoratively labelled Dacomania or sometimes Thracomania, while its proponents prefer Dacology."

"In this context, the term makes reference to the trend (noticed in several versions of Romanian nationalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_nationalism)) to ascribe a unique quality to the Dacians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacians) and their civilization."


"The ideas have been explained as part of an inferiority complex present in Romanian nationalism"

"After World War I and throughout Greater Romania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Romania)'s existence, the ideology increased its appeal."

"Ceauşescu's ideologues developed a singular concept after the 1974 11th Congress of the Communist Party of Romania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Romania), when they attached Protochronism to official Marxism, arguing that the Dacians had produced a permanent and "unorganized State". The Dacians had been favored by several communist generations as autochthonous insurgents against an "Imperialist" Rome (with the "Stalinist" -- cough revisionists cough -- leadership of the 1950s proclaiming them to be closely linked with the Slavic peoples); however, Ceauşescu's was an interpretation with a distinct motivation, making a connection with the opinions of previous protochronists."

28350
7th October 2011, 19:29
The ostensibly-communist-but-not-actually-cadre-in-the-broad-historical-sense.
I mean, what's their deal?

RedZezz
7th October 2011, 19:37
I dont really like to whitewash an entire ideology, since libertarians and conservatives come in all shapes and sizes. I know people who subscribe to libertarian and conservative ideology who are thoughtful, intelligent, and compassionate about the plights of the poor.

However, on the internet (that wretched hive of scum and villiany), you generally run into the more... less sophisticated wing of these groups. Internet libertarians have a tendency to come off as arrogant and callous ("The poor should get a job and stop expecting handouts").

However, as I said, the internet has a concentration of these people, and this rule certainly applies to others on the political spectrum. Therefore, I cannot say I "hate" libertarians, but I do hate a good number of internet libertarians.

Nox
7th October 2011, 20:14
In a capitalist sense perhaps but it ain't socialism, the clue I think you'll find is in the name State CAPITALISM

I repeat the question once more, do you even know what the economic left-wing is?

The left-wing ranges from economic Liberalism all the way to Communism.


WHAT?

No it is not. It's a "fascist" movement that uses left-wing idolatry and symbols.

I used it as an example because its official ideology is Left-wing Nationalism.



Again, no. The Ba'ath Party was (like the Nazi party) one of those "syncretic" political movements, which usually translates to using left-ish rhetoric while being decidedly right wing in most other aspects.

Same as above.


I don't know if being Keynesian or having a war economy is enough to say "yeah that's left wing". Like I said, it's muddying the waters. Would you say Churchill or Reagan were left wing too for using Keynesian ideas?

An economy can be capitalist and left-wing. See: Social Democracy and Liberalism.

Few, if any, of the economic policies of National Socialism were ever actually implemented.




Fair enough. Then to answer Liquidstate's question we can point out groups like the INC, the ANC, etc. etc. etc.

Yup. They are Left-Wing... and Nationalist (as you imply).

Il Medico
7th October 2011, 20:33
Fascist

The Man
7th October 2011, 21:42
I tolerate Libertarians much more than Conservatives (A lot of Libertarians are pro-choice, gay marriage etc)

Le Rouge
8th October 2011, 01:54
I had a very hard choice between libertarians and cories. I remembered about the fucking conservative Bill C-288 in canada that is about throwing in jail people that prevent someone of displaying the national flag. So... In canada, if you prevent someone of displaying the canadian flag, you could win a beautiful trip to our best jails during maximum 2 fucking years!
But i hate libertarians so much that i couldn't resist :D

Nox
8th October 2011, 09:50
I tolerate Libertarians much more than Conservatives (A lot of Libertarians are pro-choice, gay marriage etc)

Also, at least Libertarians are opposed to the state, allbeit for the wrong reasons.

EvilRedGuy
8th October 2011, 12:13
Liberal dogs.

Thirsty Crow
8th October 2011, 12:40
In my opinion, the only group deserving of such an intense emotional reaction would be the fascists (irrespective of the historically grounded differentiation between Italian fascism and nazism; the both doctrinal currents are worth it, IMO). However, it's curious that they're not listed.

And what's most curious is how a fringe of the fringe like the libertarians (who can be pretty irritating online, I admit) can attract so much negative attitudes.

Obs
8th October 2011, 16:09
Swedes.

Stork
8th October 2011, 16:47
Conservatives could basically be described as very moderate Fascists. Hostile to markets, worker's rights and hold religious taboos which they want the state to reflect.
Libertarians/classical liberals are most socially progressive, but even if they weren't they don't want the moral imperialism or Governmental power of Conservatives.
Free market > Corporatism. Left-wing nationalists and separatists are fine, I guess, but it varies allot from group to group. I mean pre-1921 IRA and the Black Panther Party are far better then the Ba'ath Party, Scottish National Party or the New Black Panther Party, but all would claim leftist nationalism, hell, the BNP claim to be like the old Labour party and support the NHS ect. , so by some people's standards, Nick Griffin is a Left-Nationalist.
tl;dr I hate Conservatives.

Smyg
8th October 2011, 16:59
Swedes.

Goddamn Swedes.

Dzerzhinsky's Ghost
8th October 2011, 19:30
I would have to say Libertarians. Atleast with conservatives and left-wing nationalists they aren't trying to remove literally all the gains the labor movement has made, all social safety nets and turn the nation into some Randian/Ryanian shithole.


Goddamn Swedes.

I like your meatballs and vodka.

Lobotomy
8th October 2011, 19:43
Conservatives. Libertarians may live in fairy tale land, but at least their ideas are consistent. Conservatives' ideology is so riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions I don't even know what to think. And at least libertarians have SOME good ideas, like being anti-war on drugs and anti-war in general.

Magón
8th October 2011, 21:12
Conservatives. I've heard a few Liberals use racist rhetoric and comments (sometimes even in my presence), but Conservatives of every shade and type, I've heard use it much more often and consistently.

Rooster
8th October 2011, 21:44
I repeat the question once more, do you even know what the economic left-wing is?

Comrade, we're not supposed to be the left wing of capital or to be the human face of capital. We're communists.

ВАЛТЕР
8th October 2011, 22:02
One group I find very threatening to leftists especially are clerofascists. The mixing of religion and fascism is a terrifying thing and is viewed as a very real threat by me.

Nox
8th October 2011, 22:17
Comrade, we're not supposed to be the left wing of capital or to be the human face of capital. We're communists.

For fuck's sake, why is anything you've just said relevant?

I am saying that National Socialism/National Bolshevism/Ba'ath/ZANU-PF are, economically, left-wing, which they are.

What's the problem?

Magón
8th October 2011, 22:19
One group I find very threatening to leftists especially are clerofascists. The mixing of religion and fascism is a terrifying thing and is viewed as a very real threat by me.

I've never heard of them, or seen them.

And I live in the same area where the last lunatic to report the end of the world, lives.

Dzerzhinsky's Ghost
8th October 2011, 22:24
Conservatives. Libertarians may live in fairy tale land, but at least their ideas are consistent. Conservatives' ideology is so riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions I don't even know what to think. And at least libertarians have SOME good ideas, like being anti-war on drugs and anti-war in general.

While eliminating the WoD and war in general would be good some conservatives like their messiah Reagan said some 'progressive' things like that you should tax the rich and other such things that Obama has been proposing. I would much rather deal with conservatives than deal with Libertarians whose world would make workers basically be slaves to business owners, using company currency, living in company owned housing, dealing with company owned security forces or 'private law enforcement agencies' and other such things.

ВАЛТЕР
8th October 2011, 22:24
I've never heard of them, or seen them.

And I live in the same area where the last lunatic to report the end of the world, lives.

Meh, maybe I'm translating a Serbian word into English.
(I do that sometimes and just hope it works out:blushing:)

A Clero-Fascist is a militant religious person who is prepared to use violent means to place into power basically a theocracy
Here in Serbia we have a few of them who swear by the Orthodox Patriarch and hate Atheists, Muslims, Catholics, etc etc.

Same thing in Croatia except they are Catholic so they think the Vatican is the only power that should be obeyed. Idk if it makes sense. Either way they are dick heads and I hate them and view them as a threat.

Maybe most comparable to Muslim extremists, or those Psycho Fundamentalists in the US who think that the US is a "Christian nation" and whatnot.

Magón
8th October 2011, 22:40
Meh, maybe I'm translating a Serbian word into English.
(I do that sometimes and just hope it works out:blushing:)

A Clero-Fascist is a militant religious person who is prepared to use violent means to place into power basically a theocracy
Here in Serbia we have a few of them who swear by the Orthodox Patriarch and hate Atheists, Muslims, Catholics, etc etc.

Same thing in Croatia except they are Catholic so they think the Vatican is the only power that should be obeyed. Idk if it makes sense. Either way they are dick heads and I hate them and view them as a threat.

Maybe most comparable to Muslim extremists, or those Psycho Fundamentalists in the US who think that the US is a "Christian nation" and whatnot.

Yeah, I've just been more in tuned with "Extremism", "Radicalism" or "Fundamentalism" tagged onto whatever religion's being talked about. I guess Clerico-Fascism is just a term used more often elsewhere, and by wikipedia's listing, that would be Eastern Europe.

Zostrianos
8th October 2011, 22:49
US self-proclaimed Christian conservatives, who openly rob the poor and needy, and block funding for social programs, so they can give tax cuts to their rich friends (Monsanto, Halliburton, Exxon,&c) and keep funding overseas wars; then they attack abortion, saying that it's a crime against human life - but when their bombs kill innocent Iraqis it's just "collateral damage".

They should put all these fuckers behind bars and throw away the keys.

EvilRedGuy
9th October 2011, 14:11
Swedes.

Danes.

thefinalmarch
9th October 2011, 15:32
dammit ERG you crack me up

Ocean Seal
9th October 2011, 16:01
Libertarians. Their arrogance is only matched by their ignorance. Also they all tend to be on the internet. I'm tired of hearing about Ron Paul and about how cutting welfare is going make everything better for everyone. Also how capitalism is freedom. And then topping it off with Americuh isn't teh capitalist bro cuz there's a state1111111.

EvilRedGuy
10th October 2011, 15:12
dammit ERG you crack me up

Thanks. :D

BE_
10th October 2011, 22:35
Christian conservatives. :thumbdown:

A Revolutionary Tool
11th October 2011, 06:40
Meh, maybe I'm translating a Serbian word into English.
(I do that sometimes and just hope it works out:blushing:)

A Clero-Fascist is a militant religious person who is prepared to use violent means to place into power basically a theocracy
Here in Serbia we have a few of them who swear by the Orthodox Patriarch and hate Atheists, Muslims, Catholics, etc etc.

Same thing in Croatia except they are Catholic so they think the Vatican is the only power that should be obeyed. Idk if it makes sense. Either way they are dick heads and I hate them and view them as a threat.

Maybe most comparable to Muslim extremists, or those Psycho Fundamentalists in the US who think that the US is a "Christian nation" and whatnot.
Here the closest thing we probably have are dominionists and some in the militia movement.

Le Socialiste
11th October 2011, 06:50
Left-wing nationalists, if only because of the undue support some on the revolutionary left give them. After that it's libertarians, then conservatives. Liberals bring up the rear, but only by a slim margin.

TheGodlessUtopian
11th October 2011, 07:22
Difficult to chose between conservatives and libertarians...

*flips coin*

...conservatives

Veovis
11th October 2011, 07:44
(Right) libertarians, because they are just so profoundly annoying.

Aleenik
12th October 2011, 18:39
No Stalinist option=No vote.:p

hatzel
12th October 2011, 18:43
No Stalinist option=No vote.:p

What, didn't you see 'conservatives' and 'left-wing nationalists'? :rolleyes:

DarkPast
12th October 2011, 19:26
Left-wing nationalists. Because they're an embarrassment to us.


Meh, maybe I'm translating a Serbian word into English.
(I do that sometimes and just hope it works out:blushing:)

A Clero-Fascist is a militant religious person who is prepared to use violent means to place into power basically a theocracy
Here in Serbia we have a few of them who swear by the Orthodox Patriarch and hate Atheists, Muslims, Catholics, etc etc.

Same thing in Croatia except they are Catholic so they think the Vatican is the only power that should be obeyed. Idk if it makes sense. Either way they are dick heads and I hate them and view them as a threat.

Maybe most comparable to Muslim extremists, or those Psycho Fundamentalists in the US who think that the US is a "Christian nation" and whatnot.

I know it's now become an accepted term, but I don't think it's accurate - I wouldn't say such people are influenced by fascism at all. Absolutely agree that they are extremely reactionary and a threat to any attempt to build socialism, though.

As an aside, there were people who could accurately be described as clerofascists - priests and monks who actively collaborated with the Ustaše during world war two, and took up the fascist ideology alongside their own. A good example is the archbishop Ivan Šarić (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_%C5%A0ari%C4%87). Just a quote to give people an idea of what kind of guy he was:

Until now God spoke through papal encyclicals, sermons, the Christian press ... And they were deaf. Now God has decided to use other methods. He will prepare missions! World missions! They will be upheld not by priests but by army commanders led by Hitler. The sermons will be heard with the help of cannon, machine guns, tanks and bombers.

tir1944
12th October 2011, 19:29
A sidenote: the official Vatican/Holy See actually helped many of these scumbags to escape to Argentina or elsewhere...

Ocean Seal
12th October 2011, 19:30
National Socialism is technically left-wing economically
The Nazi's were not left-wing economically. They were fully reactionary. Out to protect private property. They gave concessions to their workers out of necessity. In order to better protect private property.

tir1944
12th October 2011, 19:31
^^What RB said.
Also,the term "economically left-wing" sounds like something that leaked from Teabaggers' "political discourse" anyway...:laugh:

Aleenik
12th October 2011, 21:50
What, didn't you see 'conservatives' and 'left-wing nationalists'? :rolleyes:I saw conservatives, but not the other. I voted for left-wing nationalists.

Nox
12th October 2011, 22:53
The Nazi's were not left-wing economically. They were fully reactionary. Out to protect private property. They gave concessions to their workers out of necessity. In order to better protect private property.

Now you're just being plain stupid.

There is a big difference between the actions of the Nazis, and the ideas of National Socialism.

If National Socialism would have been fully implemented in Nazi Germany, the economy would have been left-wing, although not very left-wing but still left-wing enough to call it left-wing.

You're right about them being fully reactionary, out to protect private property etc - but that's because they didn't implement any of the economic policies laid out by National Socialism.

Go read the National Socialist manifesto and see for yourself.

Lunatic Concept
12th October 2011, 23:06
Conservatards as i prefer to call them.

Nicolai
15th October 2011, 01:13
Neo-cons, the stereotypical working class and my government.

Grenzer
19th October 2011, 23:20
Libertarians for sure.

Conservatives are more annoying, but libertarians confuse the ill informed with their talk of "freedom" into being happy wage slaves.

Fawkes
2nd November 2011, 09:19
If National Socialism would have been fully implemented in Nazi Germany, the economy would have been left-wing, although not very left-wing but still left-wing enough to call it left-wing.



Mind defining what you actually mean by "left-wing" here?


Libertarians are annoying as fuck, but at least a lot of them are somewhat progressive regarding 'social' issues. Conservatives get the win on this one.

Yazman
2nd November 2011, 09:34
I voted for Conservatives, because they are so pro-status quo. At least libertarians (I assume we're talking about the right wing kind) want shit to change, even if their changes are not what we as revolutionary leftists want. Also, left wing nationalists still also want change so they aren't as bad.

You know though, I would have voted for "politically apathetic people" if I could.

Manic Impressive
2nd November 2011, 09:56
Conservatives obviously
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Rusty Shackleford
2nd November 2011, 10:08
Dumb was 100% correct and reflects my sentiments.


Moderates are fucking annoying. Ill equate them to liberals and liberal republicans.

People who dont want to take a strong position on anything are annoying.

them and nazis/fasch/wns/nat.anarcs/nat.syndics/nazbols.

Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk
2nd November 2011, 10:34
I'd put liberals but they aren't on the poll. At least cons/libertarians/nationalists are honest, liberals preach a notion of equality and tolerance which is misleading as they go running to the reactionaries whenever their conditions are threatened.

Mitja
2nd November 2011, 10:42
1. Capitalists
2. Nazis
3. Rasists
4. KKK
5. The pope of vatican

eyeheartlenin
3rd November 2011, 11:05
Where's the category of those who eagerly censor other people? That should be up there

Nox
3rd November 2011, 12:56
Mind defining what you actually mean by "left-wing" here?



By "left-wing", I am referring solely to economics.

I am not defending Nazism, I'm just saying that it was economically left wing.

A quote from the Nazi Party Manifesto:



13 We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
14 We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
15 We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
16 We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalisation of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small trades people, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.


Of course, I'm under no illusion, I know that this stuff was never implemented and Nazi Germany had a right-wing economy.

NewLeft
7th November 2011, 02:07
Hate? That's for reactionaries.

Fawkes
7th November 2011, 05:04
Hate? That's for reactionaries.

I hate my boss.

Smyg
7th November 2011, 09:36
Hate? That's for reactionaries.

Hate and love are, in my opinion, quite revolutionary.

Obs
7th November 2011, 16:37
5. The pope of vatican
As opposed to what popes?

Stork
7th November 2011, 17:23
As opposed to what popes?
historically their have been rival popes (called antipopes), so we still expression "pope of rome" even though there's no modern antipopes and there's only one pope

tbasherizer
7th November 2011, 17:46
Moderates.

They're never 'moderate' (not that there really is such a thing). They're just snide asshole conservatives hiding behind the 'calm, rational middle of the road.'

Azraella
7th November 2011, 17:51
I fucking hate conservatives and libertarians.

Sputnik_1
7th November 2011, 18:08
i'm not sure if i actually do hate people. I do pity people who are narrow-minded, reactionary and such, as it just proves their total ignorance.

Azraella
7th November 2011, 18:09
Actually Sputnik... I hate the ideologies they represent not the people. >.>

Dzerzhinsky's Ghost
7th November 2011, 19:32
Paula Deen, I want to beat her with a pan and eat her.

danyboy27
7th November 2011, 19:40
i hate pretty much everyone on that list, but i cant stand leftist nationalist, got a shitload of these guy here.

typical conversation with a leftist nationalist:

me: we need a better healthcare system and less privatization.

left nationalist: right on buddy, and it would be possible if we would tax the rich at 90% and kick those fucking immigrants out!

me: what?

Left nationalist: Yea, those fucking immigrants who have no real intention of blending in and speaking the language of our nation!

me: you are a fucking assole.

Franz Fanonipants
7th November 2011, 19:46
I tolerate Libertarians much more than Conservatives (A lot of Libertarians are pro-choice, gay marriage etc)

A Marxist-Leninist

black magick hustla
8th November 2011, 07:24
its rarely that i dislike ppl for their political beliefs, unless they are really adamant and annoying about them. that is why libertarians are a huge pet peeve of mine, not because they have shitty beliefs but because they think they figured out the fucking universe and type walltexts of aspergers and irl they just rant about the federal reserve

Smyg
8th November 2011, 10:09
They're never 'moderate' (not that there really is such a thing). They're just snide asshole conservatives hiding behind the 'calm, rational middle of the road.'

Technically, the Moderates in Sweden exist. :P

Revolutionair
8th November 2011, 11:18
left nationalist: right on buddy, and it would be possible if we would tax the rich at 90% and kick those fucking immigrants out!

I think you are confusing left-wing nationalism and social-nationalism. One supports things like Irish Republicanism, Palestinian nationalism, etc. The other is third-positionist/Nazist.

danyboy27
8th November 2011, 13:44
I think you are confusing left-wing nationalism and social-nationalism. One supports things like Irish Republicanism, Palestinian nationalism, etc. The other is third-positionist/Nazist.

it was just an example amongst other. A lot of Quebec left nationalist who are for the irish republic and the palestinian state here are extremely reactionary when it come to lets say, language and nationalism.


Quebec solidaire is far from being a fascist movement and yet, those folks have consistently supported legislations to stop migrant family and normal citizen to send their childrens in english or spanish speaking schools.

Hivemind
8th November 2011, 14:17
I dislike right libertarians more than conservatives because the former are much more dangerous, I think. Conservatives try to stay the same and get back to the "good old days", while libertarians would fuck up the entire planet if they got what they desired. But they're both fucking narrow-minded.

Rusty Shackleford
8th November 2011, 14:26
As opposed to what popes?
The pope from Avignon is pretty dope.

Gustav HK
8th November 2011, 23:47
As opposed to what popes?

The popes of Alexandria and Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_%28disambiguation%29#Religious_offices

Sputnik_1
11th November 2011, 11:46
Actually Sputnik... I hate the ideologies they represent not the people. >.>

misled by "who" then, instead of "which ideology" you hate most. My mistake.

Yuppie Grinder
11th November 2011, 12:00
just cops
wouldn't ever hate someone for believing in something different then me, no matter how stupid

Belleraphone
13th November 2011, 01:02
I voted conservative, but now that I think about it I want to change it to left-wing nationalist. It makes it easier for the bourgeois to convince the masses that they are associated with us.

Marxaveli
15th November 2011, 01:19
I have a strong contempt for anything and all things conservative. I am an open and unapologetic Marxist, even in the presence of conservatives.

I think a better question is, which is worse: conservative politicians, or conservative citizens? The former are on a power reactionary trip, the latter suffer from Stockholm Syndrome and do not even realize they are being exploited by those they support. Both are annoying as fuck.

roy
15th November 2011, 07:53
I voted "Left-Wing Nationalists". They undermine leftism and are practically the same as the conservative authoritarian trash.

Lanky Wanker
15th November 2011, 22:27
Conservatives fer sure. Privatisation isn't really my thing, y'know? :bored:

SocialistTommy
15th November 2011, 22:31
conservatives....all for the higher classes.

16th November 2011, 06:49
Human beings who devote their life into preaching their cause without correctly critiquing their opponents. I see this both left and right.

Idealists who generalize complex theories and try to refute them.

Bright Banana Beard
16th November 2011, 07:17
People who are offended.

Pioneers_Violin
19th November 2011, 04:15
The three categories mentioned aren't worthy of my hatred. They might possibly have some hope of reform, or at least incarceration and if that fails, ridicule.

Sellouts and other traitorous picket-crossing scum are a different matter.. :mad:

Especially and particularly those that while supposedly belonging to our Union have sold out the rest of us to Management for a song.
One level above these lowest of the low are the vermin that sold me out personally. (Having sold out one fellow worker isn't quite as bad as selling out the whole place)

There are maybe two people I won't talk to period. Both sold us all out in a deliberate fashion. They need to thankful the days of the Rat Patrol are gone, at least for now.


Would just love to prove one particular Rat that sold me out is doing stuff on the side for his buddies in Management while collecting on our Pension..... ;)

Chambered Word
21st November 2011, 13:19
People who talk wank, are intellectually lazy and impossible to have a reasonable and logical discussion with. Also, hardcore and unashamed conservatives who spew bile.

Zav
21st November 2011, 13:24
If by Libertarians you mean American "Libertarians", then it would be them that annoy me most.

Jimmie Higgins
21st November 2011, 13:31
Libertarians. They are as obnoxious as other right-wingers but as self-righteous as vegans.

IndependentCitizen
21st November 2011, 15:58
Libertarians piss me off to no end.

Erratus
21st November 2011, 16:20
Libertarians. I can often get somewhere with a conservative, but with a libertarian it is just impossible. They don't really seem to understand the idea leaving poor people to die is bad. Or that unbridled capitalism doesn't actually work out too well. You don't even have to be a communist; compare life from the 19th century (after the industrial revolution) to now. Capitalist don't willing give higher wages and better working conditions. But they just don't understand.

Charlie Watt
21st November 2011, 23:07
I refuse to use libertarian in that context because it's not what the word means, and it makes me want to fucking puke whenever I here one of those cretins abusing it as such. I just lump them in with conservatives, as they both share that one core value, which is "I don't give a fuck if poor people die by the truckload." They are all quasi-human sacks of effluent that I wouldn't cross the road to piss on if they were on fire.

thefinalmarch
24th November 2011, 10:34
Militant Atheists/Anti-theists

Vegetarians